Network Problems?

psp83 · Jun 23, 2013, 22:36:12

Quote from: andrue on Jun 23, 2013, 19:28:24
I played with them last year on and off but I don't think I saw much difference so gave up and returned them back to Windows 7 defaults. It'd be interesting to compare the values.

Here's mine from laptop and pc.

Laptop, Win8 Pro 64bit

C:\Windows\system32>netsh int tcp show global
Querying active state...

TCP Global Parameters
----------------------------------------------
Receive-Side Scaling State : enabled
Chimney Offload State : disabled
NetDMA State : disabled
Direct Cache Access (DCA) : disabled
Receive Window Auto-Tuning Level : normal
Add-On Congestion Control Provider : none
ECN Capability : disabled
RFC 1323 Timestamps : disabled
Initial RTO : 3000
Receive Segment Coalescing State : disabled

C:\Windows\system32>netsh interface ipv4 show subinterfaces

MTU MediaSenseState Bytes In Bytes Out Interface
------ --------------- --------- --------- -------------
4294967295 1 0 445985 Loopback Pseudo-Interface 1
1500 5 0 0 WiFi
1500 5 0 451656 Local Area Connection* 12
1500 1 2249132608 200006282 Ethernet

C:\Windows\system32>netsh interface ipv6 show subinterfaces

MTU MediaSenseState Bytes In Bytes Out Interface
------ --------------- --------- --------- -------------
4294967295 1 0 353617 Loopback Pseudo-Interface 1
1500 5 0 1832 WiFi
1280 5 0 0 isatap.home.gateway
1280 1 3040 4616 Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
1500 5 0 1286 Local Area Connection* 12
1500 1 5096372312 194841985 Ethernet

PC, Win8 Pro 64bit

C:\WINDOWS\system32>netsh int tcp show global
Querying active state...

TCP Global Parameters
----------------------------------------------
Receive-Side Scaling State : enabled
Chimney Offload State : disabled
NetDMA State : disabled
Direct Cache Access (DCA) : disabled
Receive Window Auto-Tuning Level : normal
Add-On Congestion Control Provider : none
ECN Capability : disabled
RFC 1323 Timestamps : disabled
Initial RTO : 3000
Receive Segment Coalescing State : disabled

C:\WINDOWS\system32>netsh interface ipv4 show subinterfaces

MTU MediaSenseState Bytes In Bytes Out Interface
------ --------------- --------- --------- -------------
4294967295 1 0 231361 Loopback Pseudo-Interface 1
1500 1 492150315 2338608986 Ethernet
1500 1 0 23544 VMware Network Adapter VMnet1
1500 1 0 20148 VMware Network Adapter VMnet8

C:\WINDOWS\system32>netsh interface ipv6 show subinterfaces

MTU MediaSenseState Bytes In Bytes Out Interface
------ --------------- --------- --------- -------------
4294967295 1 0 225957 Loopback Pseudo-Interface 1
1280 5 0 0 isatap.home.gateway
1280 5 0 152 Local Area Connection* 12
1280 5 0 0 isatap.{B0BCC724-3B75-4F40-AC3C-46E517975474}
1500 1 169661684 70758909 Ethernet
1280 5 0 0 isatap.{31B17312-4A9E-4990-A809-FE1243A9F17C}
1500 1 0 6274 VMware Network Adapter VMnet1
1500 1 0 6274 VMware Network Adapter VMnet8

Laptop is 10/100 & PC is 10/100/1000

psp83 · Jun 23, 2013, 23:53:16

If I disable IPv6 I get this.

With IPv6 enabled I get this.

Hmm

andrue · Jun 24, 2013, 07:25:07

So IPv6 has slower throughput than IPv4 on single threading for you. That's curious

Are you using any kind of tunnelling for your IPv6?

Steve · Jun 24, 2013, 08:47:00

Although the potential is there on the multi thread. I must connect mine up again sometime and compare.

psp83 · Jun 24, 2013, 09:57:48

Quote from: andrue on Jun 24, 2013, 07:25:07
So IPv6 has slower throughput than IPv4 on single threading for you. That's curious

Are you using any kind of tunnelling for your IPv6?

I have no idea how to find that out..

All I did was check the IPv6 box on the router control panel, made sure the IPv6 firewall was enabled and saved it.. I'm letting Win8 do its own thing to get the IP addresses.

C:\WINDOWS\system32>netsh interface ipv6 show subinterfaces

MTU MediaSenseState Bytes In Bytes Out Interface
------ --------------- --------- --------- -------------
4294967295 1 0 225957 Loopback Pseudo-Interface 1
1280 5 0 0 isatap.home.gateway
1280 5 0 152 Local Area Connection* 12
1280 5 0 0 isatap.{B0BCC724-3B75-4F40-AC3C-46E517975474}
1500 1 169661684 70758909 Ethernet
1280 5 0 0 isatap.{31B17312-4A9E-4990-A809-FE1243A9F17C}
1500 1 0 6274 VMware Network Adapter VMnet1
1500 1 0 6274 VMware Network Adapter VMnet8

I've noticed that the MTU for IPv6 is lower though.. 1280

andrue · Jun 24, 2013, 12:27:25

Quote from: psp83 on Jun 24, 2013, 09:57:48
I have no idea how to find that out..

All I did was check the IPv6 box on the router control panel, made sure the IPv6 firewall was enabled and saved it.. I'm letting Win8 do its own thing to get the IP addresses.

No tunnel then so we can rule that out.

QuoteI've noticed that the MTU for IPv6 is lower though.. 1280

Hmm.

MTU MediaSenseState Bytes In Bytes Out Interface
------ --------------- --------- --------- -------------
4294967295 1 0 12927964 Loopback Pseudo-Interface 1
1492 2 527178 526502 Wireless Network Connection 2
1280 5 0 0 isatap.{F70F0A73-8856-422C-8B97-3
DBDE678C03B}
1280 5 0 0 isatap.{94309C4C-31E0-486B-B5E4-F
EF28451370D}
1492 1 3356338626 938839979 Local Area Connection
1280 1 185307 394072 Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface

I don't think the 1280s there matter. I know I'm not using Teredo and I don't think either of us are using isatap (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISATAP). Both technologies I think are for running IPv6 over IPv4 and with IDNet supporting IPv6 directly I assume they sit idle. Looks to me like we're both the same there, with your primary being Ethernet. But it's curious.

psp83 · Jun 24, 2013, 12:43:55

Quote from: andrue on Jun 24, 2013, 12:27:25
No tunnel then so we can rule that out.Hmm.

MTU MediaSenseState Bytes In Bytes Out Interface
------ --------------- --------- --------- -------------
4294967295 1 0 12927964 Loopback Pseudo-Interface 1
1492 2 527178 526502 Wireless Network Connection 2
1280 5 0 0 isatap.{F70F0A73-8856-422C-8B97-3
DBDE678C03B}
1280 5 0 0 isatap.{94309C4C-31E0-486B-B5E4-F
EF28451370D}
1492 1 3356338626 938839979 Local Area Connection
1280 1 185307 394072 Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface

I don't think the 1280s there matter. I know I'm not using Teredo and I don't think either of us are using isatap (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISATAP). Both technologies I think are for running IPv6 over IPv4 and with IDNet supporting IPv6 directly I assume they sit idle. Looks to me like we're both the same there, with your primary being Ethernet. But it's curious.

I'm even more confused now.. I'm guessing my "Ethernet" is the same as your "Local Area Connection"

Although I have a "Local Area Connection* 12"

My Local Area Connection* 12 MTU is now 1472 instead of 1280 as I had to reset my IPv6 connection due to a Win8 bug not picking up the DNS address advertised by the router.

C:\WINDOWS\system32>netsh interface ipv6 show subinterfaces

MTU MediaSenseState Bytes In Bytes Out Interface
------ --------------- --------- --------- -------------
4294967295 1 0 19571 Loopback Pseudo-Interface 1
1280 5 0 0 isatap.home.gateway
1472 5 0 152 Local Area Connection* 12
1280 5 0 0 isatap.{B0BCC724-3B75-4F40-AC3C-46E517975474}
1500 1 80993776 30414259 Ethernet
1280 5 0 0 isatap.{31B17312-4A9E-4990-A809-FE1243A9F17C}
1500 1 0 34466 VMware Network Adapter VMnet1
1500 1 0 34466 VMware Network Adapter VMnet8

Bill · Jul 03, 2013, 23:34:57

Has one of the host links to BT fallen over again or is it me:

mervl · Jul 04, 2013, 00:14:27

Lovely pattern. Somethings up. But radio streaming (through the mobile) was OK. Nothing more onerous tonight.
My Broadband Ping

zappaDPJ · Jul 04, 2013, 03:26:08

From what I can see, everyone is showing the same problem.

Bill · Jul 04, 2013, 06:55:40

Quote from: mervl on Jul 04, 2013, 00:14:27
Lovely pattern. Somethings up. But radio streaming (through the mobile) was OK. Nothing more onerous tonight.
My Broadband Ping

Didn't affect my use either as it happens, I only noticed it by accident.

I rather expected it to show a degree of worsening at midnight as off-peak kicked in, but it didn't- just a slow improvement as sensible people went to bed. Interesting.

Seems to be all sorted now, at least until next time

Steve · Jul 04, 2013, 07:22:45

Odd you'd think that sort of disturbance if real would affect performance

Bill · Jul 04, 2013, 07:30:39

If I'd been downloading something hefty I suspect it would have done, but I was just sort of mooching about the web and any performance hit simply wasn't noticeable.

What showed it up was a post on tbb querying whether their speedtester was down- I tried it and the result was so horrible that I aborted it and went investigating!

psp83 · Jul 04, 2013, 09:52:46

I posted the same here : http://www.idnetters.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,30950.msg713331/topicseen.html#new

I didn't see no impact on service though, I was still pinging things at 15ms and my speed was normal...

andrue · Jul 04, 2013, 09:57:03

Looks fixed now. Can't say I noticed but then it's possible I didn't use the net after 10pm anyway. I did notice the afternoon congestion though.

Mind you things look a lot worse on my server's IPv6 graph. I don't blame IPv6 though - when you're only running at 5w power consumption there's a limit as to how quickly you can respond to a ping.

Reya · Jul 12, 2013, 15:40:12

Looks like something is up again. I've just started getting page loading problems, and pinging various sites is resulting in between 25% and 50% packet loss. Just in time for the weekend $:-\$

A ping to the BBC:

Pinging bbc.co.uk [212.58.251.195] with 32 bytes of data:
Request timed out.
Reply from 212.58.251.195: bytes=32 time=31ms TTL=120
Reply from 212.58.251.195: bytes=32 time=31ms TTL=120
Reply from 212.58.251.195: bytes=32 time=30ms TTL=120

Ping statistics for 212.58.251.195:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 3, Lost = 1 (25% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 30ms, Maximum = 31ms, Average = 30ms

And here's a traceroute to this forum, which is also slow for me:

Tracing route to idnetters.co.uk [212.69.36.118]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms www.routerlogin.com [xxx.xxx.x.x]
2 30 ms 102 ms 153 ms telehouse-gw2-lo1.idnet.net [212.69.63.51]
3 29 ms 29 ms 29 ms telehouse-gw5-gi4-400.idnet.net [212.69.63.245]

4 29 ms * 30 ms redbus-gw2-gi3-331.idnet.net [212.69.63.5]
5 30 ms 30 ms 30 ms redbus-gw1-gi5-0-301.idnet.net [212.69.63.209]
6 30 ms 30 ms 30 ms cpanel3.idnet.net [212.69.36.118]

Trace complete.

Just me, or anyone else getting issues?

andrue · Jul 12, 2013, 20:26:24

Getting a little bit of packet loss here but it's pretty minor.

Wooloff · Jul 13, 2013, 11:59:15

Just looking for a little advice please.

I've come back from 2 weeks away and turned my router back on but I've got no internet connection.

All the lights are on, on the router and it's synced fine but for some reason it won't connect. My details are all in there fine as I've re-entered them.

The router is a Belkin and looking on the setup page for it everything seems normal, apart from the no connection issue.

Thanks for any advice.

Gary · Jul 13, 2013, 13:39:10

Quote from: Wooloff on Jul 13, 2013, 11:59:15
Just looking for a little advice please.

I've come back from 2 weeks away and turned my router back on but I've got no internet connection.

All the lights are on, on the router and it's synced fine but for some reason it won't connect. My details are all in there fine as I've re-entered them.

The router is a Belkin and looking on the setup page for it everything seems normal, apart from the no connection issue.

Thanks for any advice.

What is the routers connection page showing? How do you know its synced? Sorry to be so basic but that info may help. Also is this over wifi or plugged directly into the router?

Wooloff · Jul 13, 2013, 14:20:29

I just thought it was synced because the lights were all on. I phoned support and they said that there is a major outage at the moment. No time frame for return of service either. Hoping it's back up today

lozcart · Jul 13, 2013, 15:07:29

Anyone else lost connection, seeing no Internet at all in Birmingham on FTTC.

zappaDPJ · Jul 13, 2013, 15:09:37

There are certainly problems and they look to be within IDNet's network. I've just had a five minute outage and so has everyone else by the look of it.

davej99 · Jul 13, 2013, 15:10:54

Ditto, Perthshire. Disconnected pppoa session and reconnected (not reboot). Now OK.

lozcart · Jul 13, 2013, 15:11:39

Thanks Zappa, I wondered if it was my router playing up due to the heat.

Wooloff · Jul 13, 2013, 15:15:24

No service here in Oxfordshire still. Been down since at least 10am today.