modem/router fttc capable

sobranie · Jun 28, 2013, 12:28:39

Getting thoroughly confused trawling my way through site after site.
Loads of router only info. (normally listed under modem/router especially Amazon).
What I require is a proven quality modem/router ...... the buffalo springs to mind but it appears to be getting
a little long in the tooth as it were.
Recommendations greatly appreciated.

Glenn · Jun 28, 2013, 12:54:03

I'm happy with my Fritzbox 7930 but I should have got a lower spec model, I don't use the VOIP side of it, they are not cheep though Rick.

When do you get FTTP at the top of town, my brother is just down the road from you?

Steve · Jun 28, 2013, 15:07:30

What has the modem to be capable of ? IE adsl or vdsl.

sobranie · Jun 28, 2013, 16:27:50

Quote from: Glenn on Jun 28, 2013, 12:54:03
I'm happy with my Fritzbox 7930 but I should have got a lower spec model, I don't use the VOIP side of it, they are not cheep though Rick.

When do you get FTTP at the top of town, my brother is just down the road from you?

It's on now Glenn (FTTC that is). Definitely happened since Tuesday of this week (Cabinet 83 wherever that is)

sobranie · Jun 28, 2013, 16:52:47

Errrrr, I have just come to a dead stop after comparing fttc deals elsewhere.
Eg: Plusnet and BT are less than half the price of IDNet PLUS a free router is thrown in for good measure.
I must read more over the weekend but my loyalty to IDNet is fading fast. OK, customer support probably stinks
on the cheaper deals but w.t.h.! jftr I have my MAC code to hand.

sobranie · Jun 29, 2013, 13:18:59

Still kicking things around!

I note on the IDN Fibre package that a d/l allowance of 100GB is stated.
Is there any more info. anywhere on this, eg: is the 100GB split berween night and day or is it anytime?
Also mulling over an Asus router ... here ...... http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B007W16SMO/ref=s9_simh_gw_p147_d0_i2?pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=04QMRC4NRG25FQN7QQ4S&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=358549767&pf_rd_i=468294
Does anyone use one please and, if so, what modem are you using with it?

Life is getting complicated innit? Or am I just getting old!!!!

Steve · Jun 29, 2013, 13:29:58

Allowance is not split between night and day anymore, it's just a monthly total. I use the Asus Router and I think Bill does too, it's very strong on WiFi performance and firmware is customisable, the traffic monitor is useful. I use this in conjunction with the BT OpenReach supplied modem.

http://www.lostrealm.ca/tower/node/79

http://forums.smallnetbuilder.com/forumdisplay.php?f=40

MisterW · Jun 29, 2013, 14:50:39

QuoteAlso mulling over an Asus router ... here .....

It gets some good reports over here on the PlusNet forums http://community.plus.net/forum/index.php/topic,113213.0.html .

sobranie · Jun 29, 2013, 15:44:13

I've always used a modem router eg: Netgear DGN2000 at the mo. with netgear plugged in to telephone socket and thence to computer with RJ lead. Simples!!!!
Now, I wish to purchase the Asus beastie which has no modem so I have to stick a modem between the router and the telephone socket.
Problem is which modem to opt for...... so many recommendations, so many rubbish reports, so much head banging advice on the net.
I think it would be far simpler to go for the asus 55 modem router and just swop it with the netgear ..... job done I presume. But the asus 55 does not have the
glowing reports of the 66. Also mentioned is the tp modem TD8817 which is compatible with the 66 but not all the time!!!!!
I am now going to stick my head in the oven

MisterW · Jun 29, 2013, 15:52:32

For FTTC you need a VDSL modem. BT Openreach provide the modem as part of the installation. You therefore need a 'cable' router ( one with an Ethernet WAN port ) to connect to the BT modem, as opposed to normal ADSL , where you supply your own combined modem/router. There are a few combined VDSL modem/routers ( the 7390 being one ) but they are expensive and at the moment technically the T &C's for FTTC say you MUST use the BT modem since that's now the demarcation point for FTTC.
Hope that helps explain.

TP link do a 3600 http://www.tp-link.com/en/products/details/?model=TL-WDR3600 or a 4300 http://www.tp-link.com/en/products/details/?model=TL-WDR4300 which are suitable for FTTC

OR there is this one http://www.tp-link.com/en/products/details/?model=TD-W8980 which is an ADSL/modem router but you can use one of the LAN ports as a WAN port. So you could use it for normal ADSL now and then use it later to connect to the BT modem when/if you change to FTTC.

sobranie · Jun 29, 2013, 16:13:20

Thanks for that.
Q. If I take IDNets fibre offering do BT actually do the installation thus suppling the modem or am I on my own?

MisterW · Jun 29, 2013, 16:55:30

BT Openreach do ALL the Fibre installations, and supply the modem, no matter what ISP. The modem remains BT's property and, as I said earlier, is now the demarcation point between BT OR's responsibility and yours/ISP's.

sobranie · Jun 29, 2013, 18:03:17

Thanks for all your help MrW. Very much appreciated.

sobranie · Jul 17, 2013, 19:28:32

The deed is done (last Friday to be exact). BT checker stated I would get 59Mb/s but speeds never even approached that! Using the Asus 66 router .... just plugged in and away it went.
I do touch 76Mb/s during the early hours with 16.8 Mb/s upload. This is normally a very busy time of the day so I must presume I have the cab to myself.