Apple video stream

[Lance]

Three have mine, and I'll have it Friday

[zappaDPJ]

Based on what I've heard and read elsewhere I think that report on potential supply problems is probably quite accurate. Early indications are suggesting that this is the world's most successful phone launch in terms of pre-orders. That's not bad for a phone which has attracted a lot of criticism for being so underwhelming. It certainly sounds like Apple have underestimated demand for the Plus. Something that might also have had an impact on the level of stock is Apple had to ditch the sapphire screens because of supply issues.

[Technical Ben]

It's one of those strange facts of life. It was put best on another forum...

"If I'd known that everything I hate sold well, I'd have made millions making and selling things I don't like!"

[Simon]

That's not bad for a phone which has attracted a lot of criticism for being so underwhelming.

But nearly every new iPhone has been underwhelming.  We never seem to get quite as much as we expect.  I'm still torturing myself over whether to get the 6 or not.  I should put myself out of my misery and just hit the buy button - but seven hundred quid for a bloody phone!   

[Lance]

Go on Simon, you know you want too!

[Simon]

 

[Steve]

Isn't every new phone a little underwhelming, after all as you say it's a bloody phone!  Glad I don't have to make a decision at present.

[Lance]

Indeed there is only so much innovation possible until a complete game changer cones out but I can't see that happening any time soon.

[zappaDPJ]

My problem is I can't decide whether to be underwhelmed by a 5S or a 6 I might have held out a bit longer but iOS 8 doesn't run on the 4 (my current phone) and it has new functionality I'm interested in.

[Simon]

Such as, Zap?  I know the messaging and notifications side may have had some tweaks, but the big push seems to be the health app, which I can't see being of any use to me!    I also don't think I'd want to store credit card details on the phone, so NFC isn't something I'd use on the 6 either.

I probably won't install iOS 8 on the 4S, even if it is compatible, as it will probably take up space that I haven't got.  If the 5S was going cheaper, then I might be tempted, but they seem to still be selling for ~£500 on eBay, and I wouldn't pay that for a used phone, so, for me, I think it's going to be the 6, or I may even hold on to the 4S for a bit longer. 

[zappaDPJ]

It's the health app I'm primarily interested in, it could prove really useful to me if it's any good. I'm also interested in the NFC aspect of it as well although that's still something which has to be adopted across the board to be of any use. It can't be any less secure than handing over your credit card in a restaurant, something I refuse to do and I've lost count of the number of people I know that have been stung by doing just that.

I'm also interested in WiFi calls, time-lapse photography, the improved weather app and a lot of minor functionality improvements such as swipe to delete albums and automatically message deletion (on a timer).

From what I've seen so far, although it has the same look and feel of iOS 7, there's a lot of changes behind the interface that should really enhance the hardware. To be honest I'm more interested in iOS 8 than I am buying a new phone but as I'm now locked out of iOS updates I don't have a lot of choice.

[Gary]

Such as, Zap?  I know the messaging and notifications side may have had some tweaks, but the big push seems to be the health app, which I can't see being of any use to me!    I also don't think I'd want to store credit card details on the phone, so NFC isn't something I'd use on the 6 either.

I probably won't install iOS 8 on the 4S,

I would if it is, there will be security fixes in iOS 8, Simon that iOS 7 may not get. My 5s sold for the full £500 with its years warranty on Applecare left, so I have to decide what phone I want now. Not an iPhone this time around though.

[Steve]

If your not going iPhone Gary , it might just be worth waiting for the Moto X 2014 which should be out soon. My logic with moving to Android was not to spend on a top of the range HTC or Samsung as it might not suit after iOS although now after 10 months I'd be happy to move up to flashier designs than the Nexus 5 , (not that I've had any issues with it) provided I can avoid the bloat ware.

[Gary]

If your not going iPhone Gary , it might just be worth waiting for the Moto X 2014 which should be out soon. My logic with moving to Android was not to spend on a top of the range HTC or Samsung as it might not suit after iOS although now after 10 months I'd be happy to move up to flashier designs than the Nexus 5 , (not that I've had any issues with it) provided I can avoid the bloat ware.

Oddly I was just reading about that, Steve. A bloat free android phone sound good.

[Steve]

You could always buy an iPod (touch) as a much cheaper but perhaps not as convenient way of storing portable music.

[Simon]

I'm going to have to stop looking.  I've looked at the Nokia Lumia 930 this evening, but even though it's a Windows phone, syncing with Outlook isn't possible via USB, so that's out of the equation.  I've also been looking at the HTC One M8, which I have to admit, does look superb, and also has en expandable memory card slot.

[Steve]

Must admit I'm impressed by the look of the HTC M8 and as you say it's memory is expandable. If I was looking at a new Android phone I need some guarantee that it will be updated at some point to Android L or whatever they're going to call it.

Edit HTC will give you trade in for your iPhone as well.

[Simon]

Edit HTC will give you trade in for your iPhone as well.

Oh, really?  Where would I find that?

That's another issue - I do tend to get rather attached to things, and don't like to sell them on, which I know is ridiculous, but that's how it is.  I've still got my iPhone 3GS, and even the old BlackBerry Storms before that! 

[Steve]

The trade in offer is on the HTC website but Amazon's price nearly negates their trade in offer for a 4S. 

[Simon]

Yes, I've found it.  Not great, is it?

[Gary]

Oops Apple hyping demand for its product again by restricting supply? http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/09/13/apple_iphone_6_plus_shipments_delayed_in_uk/

[Simon]

The trade in offer is on the HTC website but Amazon's price nearly negates their trade in offer for a 4S. 

Someone's just bought the one I was looking at on Amazon.  Wasn't you was it, Steve? 

[Steve]

It does annoy me , if I want a new phone I don't want to wait that long , I do find it off putting and then if you wait until supplies are plentiful it's not long before the next model is announced.

@Simon - no I've not bought it, I'm waiting for the new Moto X , I don't think I'd use the SD slot.

[Simon]

My biggest worry is whether I'll get on with Android, having been used to the smoothness of iOS for so long.  I think I'll probably wait for some proper reviews of the 6, but I'm currently leaning towards an HTC One M8, perhaps just until the 6S comes along next year.

[Steve]

There's plenty of 'blogs' about moving from iOS to Android. At least the Apps are in alphabetical order! You just sell your soul to Google instead of Apple.