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[Simon]

So, I guess if one were to order an iPhone now, and one received a 'bendy' one, one could take it to an Apple shop and get it replaced, but will they actually be doing anything about making it more robust with new batches?  I'm tearing my hair out trying to use this Android device, so my finger is getting dangerously close to the Buy button for an iPhone 6.  I suppose I could go back to my 4S, but I've swapped the SIM now, for a nano, and I'm not sure if I can swap back, or if it's worth the hassle of doing so.  I'm sure I could tolerate this HTC for a while if I knew a 6 was in the bag.   

[pctech]

In Jobs' day I'd probably say not, he'd probably just say 'just don't sit on it'

Tim Cook seems to be much more business minded so probably, yes.

[Steve]

There are various reports coming out claiming that the iPhone i6 is not as bendy as the initial scaremongerin portrayed.

To be honest Simon I don't have any great issues using Android ok text editing could be simpler with the annoying blue sliders as the magnifying glass effect on iOS is difficult to beat.

[Simon]

This one also has a magnifying effect, in a square bubble, but it seems very random as to when and whether it works. 

[zappaDPJ]

In Jobs' day I'd probably say not, he'd probably just say 'just don't sit on it'

Tim Cook seems to be much more business minded so probably, yes.

I think it more likely that Jobs would have publicly humiliated and then fired the staff responsible.

[pctech]

Am thinking back to Antennagate which, lets face it, he could have handled better.

[Lance]

Simon, why are you concerned about the iPhone 6 being bendy? Its no more bendy than the M8 you've already got!

The results showed that the 6 Plus was actually stronger than the iPhone 6, starting to deform at 90 pounds of force and having its screen and case separate at 110 pounds of force. The iPhone 6 started to deform at 70 pounds of force and started coming apart at 100 pounds of force. The HTC One (m8) performed the worst in Consumer Reports' test, deforming at 70 pounds of force and coming apart at 90 pounds of force.

Source: http://www.macrumors.com/2014/09/26/consumer-reports-iphone6-bend-test/

[Steve]

At least the balanced opinions seem now to be appearing although one can't escape 8.0.1 which surely has no excuses.

[Simon]

Well, for a start, we didn't know about the M8 at the time the iPhone 6 stories were breaking.  Why wasn't there a big furore about that then?  Because it isn't Apple?   

[Lance]

Indeed, if it is Apple its a story. If it is HTC or even blackberry its a case of who cares as far as the press is concerned.

[Simon]

Also, they wouldn't have done the tests if it wasn't for reports of the 6/6+, so if the HTC is even more 'bendable', then I'm surprised no one reported that before now.

[Steve]

I think it's about the same as trying to break 4 lead pencils at the same time , so it's not that easy. Certainly it appears weaker than the 5 which was nearly twice as un bendy as the 6. What puzzles me is why people deliberate try to bend their phones as producing that amount of force whilst bending forward is going to injure your groin and if you daft enough to sit down on a hard chair with your phone in your back pocket.

[Simon]

Sitting on a chair, or getting into the car, with the phone in your back pocket is easily done, though, as you tend to forget it's there.  Not sure you would with the size of these ones, but even so, it's an understandable mishap.

[Gary]

No matter what this kind of puts me off, and this test was done in the street. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJ3Ds6uf0Yg

[Steve]

It does look relatively easy.

[Simon]

Lucky for him he's got the money to buy a brand new phone and deliberately wreck it.  But I guess he has a point - they should have been stress tested.  I wonder if a hard case would help?  That might also solve the sticky out camera lens issue as well. Roll on the iPhone 7! 

[Gary]

Lucky for him he's got the money to buy a brand new phone and deliberately wreck it.  But I guess he has a point - they should have been stress tested.  I wonder if a hard case would help?  That might also solve the sticky out camera lens issue as well. Roll on the iPhone 7! 

the hits his channel has made he can afford it now.  It would have to be a very hard case very very hard.

[Technical Ben]

Am thinking back to Antennagate which, lets face it, he could have handled better.

Was that a purposeful play on words?

Well, for a start, we didn't know about the M8 at the time the iPhone 6 stories were breaking.  Why wasn't there a big furore about that then?  Because it isn't Apple?   

I agree people tend to pick on Apple. But they make a few phones. Other companies make lots, so 1 or 2 ( or more ) failures can fall through the gaps. Where I work, some companies produce real lemons, and I never hear anyone talking about it just "they make quality products". So go figure. 

[zappaDPJ]

It's going to be a week or two at least before I get to stress test an iPhone 6. The model I want is out of stock and there's a waiting list which I elected not to join.

[Steve]

All this talk of phones has made me itchy , I've done a bit of research and opted for the Xperia Z3.  Next step will be to decide what to do about the iPad later this year, it's a version 4 running 8.0.2 and Safari is not happy, it keeps freezing accessing webpages, altogether a tad tedious.

[Simon]

The one and only thing that put me off the Z3 is the flap you have to open each time you want to connect a charger.  Reports from previous versions suggest that this is a weak point, and that the flaps soon break.

[Steve]

That's precisely why I bought a magnetic charging dock as well so no flaps to play with in that regard.  Pissed off with O2 though, no answer from CS after 30 mins today - I need to go nano SIM. Went to the O2 shop nearby and got one, bloody woman activated it with out asking and of course my Nexus 5 now does not work with the old Sim or the new SIM with the correct adaptor. 

I won't panic until tomorrow unless the phone doesn't arrive as promised, I'll survive without a mobile until then, the nano SIM has been activated as it works with the adaptor in my iPad.

[Simon]

Hindsight is a wonderful thing, but you could have ordered a nano SIM online, then waited until you were ready to activate it, which you can also do online.  When I swapped to my HTC, it took less than an hour for it to be activated. 

[Steve]

I agree Simon I've done it before but I wanted it for tomorrow,why she had to activate I don't know.

[Steve]

How odd I've managed to get the old 3GS working with  2 SIM card adaptors i.e. a micro one and nano one .