Apple lock iPhone 6 NFC to Apple Pay

Simon · Sep 21, 2014, 11:29:04

It's really difficult to know what to do, given the potential cost involved. There seem to be a number of possibly isolated, possibly temporary, glitches with the 6, which is disappointing given the cost, and if the build quality isn't that great, that's not a good sign. I don't know what this thing is about making everything as thin as possible. Personally, I'd rather have something with a substantial build, than something built to be aesthetically alluring, but ultimately not as robust. That said, you always get a number of complainers who still wouldn't be happy if the phone was made of solid gold, did everything in a nanosecond, had an operating system honed to perfection, and only cost £1.

The cheapest 'upgrade' option would seem to be to look for a decent 5, to perhaps tide me over until the 6S comes out, which may have ironed out any glitches with the 6, but it's a gamble buying a second hand phone, and the reason I didn't buy the 5 or 5S before is that I didn't think I'd like the taller shape. The 5S is too expensive for a used device.

The other options are to stick with the 4S (and iOS7, at least until 8.1 comes out), and use a second device (iPod Classic) for portable music. This means carrying two devices, which I wanted to avoid, but I guess at least it won't cost me anything and the iPod will still fit all my accessories. Or, look at moving from Apple, possibly to the HTC One M8 - but I think I'd regret it.

Gary · Sep 21, 2014, 13:13:11

With Apple products if you sell each year you get a good wedge back, if you leave it to long then you dont. The 5 and 5s were great phones. 6 is meh but if I did buy it id get more money back for a 6S then I would selling the 5S...hmm.

pctech · Sep 21, 2014, 15:24:47

If the new software is not screen area aware or doesn't adapt itself to the hardware it's running on then I would expect Apple devices to stop holding their value as who wants a phone or tablet running the latest software badly?

I mean, I thought Apple was all about user experience.

I guess they'll correct it with an update or maybe not.

Least they've had the good sense to leave the firmware on my iPod 6th Gen alone and the latest version of iTunes will still talk to it, the day it tells me it's too old I'll be firing off an e-mail to Tim Cook or Dr. Dre.

Glenn · Sep 21, 2014, 15:44:11

http://www.copytrans.net/ is your friend, my 2nd gen iPod works fine without the need for iTunes.

pctech · Sep 21, 2014, 19:44:39

Cheers.

Gary · Sep 22, 2014, 09:37:42

Sorted out my Dilemma, I bought a holiday instead

Simon · Sep 22, 2014, 09:54:14

Good for you!

I very nearly bought an iPhone 5 yesterday, then very nearly bought an HTC One M8, then also very nearly bought a Sony Xperia Z2 (but didn't like the flappy USB port cover). I still have my eye on another HTC One M8, but I'll probably end up getting the 6 at some point.

Simon · Sep 22, 2014, 14:00:30

I've just been doing a general search for 'iPhone 6 issues', and am coming across quite a few. Apparently the Bluetooth connection is flakey in some instances, the headphone jack is 'too tolerant' and causes cut outs, not to mention issues with Siri, plus we have the wifi problems already mentioned. Was this device really ready for release, or is this due to glitches in iOS 8? Whatever, I'm glad I haven't shelled out over £600 for something with so many teething troubles. You'd think Apple would have learned to get it right by now.

lozcart · Sep 22, 2014, 16:25:08

My iPhone 6 which I got on friday to replace the 5 is superb, no problems at all, the screen seems so much better than any iPhone (3GS,4,5) that I've had before.

Bluetooth didn't work to start with in the car, but a hard reset soon sorted that out.

Simon · Sep 22, 2014, 16:38:34

Possibly a stupid question, Loz, but was that a hard reset on the phone, or the car system? I've seen posts on the Apple forums complaining that Bluetooth kept disconnecting on a Porsche audio system.

Simon · Sep 22, 2014, 16:57:20

I think it's this that worries me most:

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/6545345

Simon · Sep 22, 2014, 17:09:27

Another thread worth watching:

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1784043

I feel like I'm turning into an Apple basher!

It's not that - I'd love to have one, but I don't want to be disappointed after paying over £600 for a device, if it doesn't work properly, or has build issues, such as the 'moving' screen or over heating. $:-\$

lozcart · Sep 22, 2014, 17:53:36

Quote from: Simon on Sep 22, 2014, 16:38:34
Possibly a stupid question, Loz, but was that a hard reset on the phone, or the car system? I've seen posts on the Apple forums complaining that Bluetooth kept disconnecting on a Porsche audio system.

The hard reset was on the phone Simon, it connected to the car (Jaguar XF) ok and streamed audio, the problem was when I made a phone call the audio wasn't coming through the cars speakers. As I say I hard reset (home and on/off button held down) and everything was fine.

I've had no wifi issues with the phone fine at work and home, my iPad Air on the other hand since upgrading to iOS8 seems a little flakey and hangs sometimes when trying to load a page, hopefully an update soon will fix it.

Simon · Sep 22, 2014, 18:19:54

My 4S has an intermittent Bluetooth connectivity issue with my Ford Galaxy. It won't stream audio at all (but I don't think it's supposed to), but it is supposed to enable handsfree for the phone. This works sometimes, but other times, a call can come in and I answer with the handsfree, but while I can hear the caller, they can't hear me. At that point, also, the audio from the headphone jack, which is connected to the car audio system, cuts out and won't restart without hard resetting the phone, AND completely shutting down the car audio, which involves stopping, getting out and locking the vehicle! Not too convenient at times. Ford reckon that the Bluetooth from the iPhone isn't fully compatible with the Ford audio, so I'm guessing that an even newer iPhone may create even more problems, if it will connect at all.

Gary · Sep 22, 2014, 20:13:52

My 5S worked perfectly in the 2012 Focus with bluetooth, Simon.

Apple are like any other company in this segment, but they are great at making you think you got something amazing when you didn't. The 6 and huge 6 Plus. NFC well that's been around for ages and most people dont use it. Bigger screens, been around for ages, and there are better screens out there still. The iPhone 6 has more processing power that most of will not notice.

On the 5S iOS 7 runs as fast as iOS 8 pretty much, as it should, it has the same amount of ram and that speed bump is not that noticeable in real world applications but looks great in numbers. So now we have bigger phones with features Android has had for years with a pathetic amount of ram, and we are told its a miracle and must have. Why? I like small phones, hell phones were getting smaller till we got smartphones. A phone to me is above all a phone. The 5S will run fine, the difference in speed wont make a jot of difference in the real world but it does in the marketing one and thats all that matters.

Smoke and mirrors endless upgrading to the next same thing, but with a tweak to tempt you. Hell I don't even need a bigger screen my phone fits in my denim jeans just fine. You want a phone that does the things you want and need, not what a company tells you you think you need, its as simple as that.

Simon · Sep 22, 2014, 20:51:21

That's all very true, Gary, but you have to admit, the intuitive functionality, usability and general compatability between Apple devices and the integration with iTunes is second to none. I've actually got two bids in for HTC One M8s at the moment (hope I only win one!

). I think I just need to satisfy my need for a change, and if I can't get on with it after a while, I can resell it and perhaps think again about the iPhone 6, which might have had the rough spots ironed out of it by then. If I like the M8, and can live with it for a year, I'll just hold on for the 6S.

Den · Sep 22, 2014, 22:09:38

Excellent post Gary and I could not agree more. In the end I want a phone to make phone calls and it must fit in my pocket or hands free holder. The magic word with some of these companies is upgrade and we don't always need to.

Gary · Sep 22, 2014, 22:19:36

Quote from: Simon on Sep 22, 2014, 20:51:21
That's all very true, Gary, but you have to admit, the intuitive functionality, usability and general compatability between Apple devices and the integration with iTunes is second to none.

@_@ What are you on

Good idea about the 6s wait though the 's' phones are always the better phone after issues are ironed out, maybe the 6S will be able to make my morning coffee as well by then

Gary · Sep 22, 2014, 22:21:10

Quote from: Den on Sep 22, 2014, 22:09:38
Excellent post Gary and I could not agree more. In the end I want a phone to make phone calls and it must fit in my pocket or hands free holder. The magic word with some of these companies is upgrade and we don't always need to.

Thanks Den

Simon · Sep 22, 2014, 22:42:54

Quote from: Gary on Sep 22, 2014, 22:19:36@_@ What are you on

A roll!

Well, I missed out on both the HTCs by ten pounds each. Bugger! I hate having to wait days for auctions to end.

Glenn · Sep 23, 2014, 07:41:14

Are you using a sniper tool like Goofbid?

http://www.goofbid.com/

Glenn · Sep 23, 2014, 07:56:47

Have you also considered a LG G3?

http://www.loadthegame.com/2014/09/20/lg-g3-vs-htc-one-m8-design-performance/

Gary · Sep 23, 2014, 08:11:42

Quote from: Simon on Sep 22, 2014, 22:42:54
A roll!

Simon · Sep 23, 2014, 09:18:04

Not heard of that one, Glenn. I used to use another auction sniper but it kept having compatability issues with eBay. Will check that out. I usually like to sit and 'snipe' manually, but wasn't able to do so last night.

Not considered LG, but have seen a few of their phones and never been impressed with build quality.