iOS8

[Simon]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-29251961

[zappaDPJ]

I noticed that in iTunes when I was updating the iPad.

[Gary]

Or use iTunes... 

[Gary]

IOS 8.1 released.

[zappaDPJ]

At the present rate of progress I should have it by Friday! I guess Apple's servers can't keep up.

[Lance]

Downloading to my iPhone as I type...

[zappaDPJ]

I abandoned it and started again. I got there eventually but it still took 90 minutes for 2GB.

Something I've noticed, I get the impression that people think if you update iOS via iTunes you don't need any memory headroom on the device. I've just bricked my daughter's iPad in exactly the same fashion as I bricked my iPhone recently. The common factor? Neither device had any memory headroom. Could be coincidence I guess but I'm not convinced. I wish I could remember what I did to get my iPhone to boot because I really can't get this iPad to start. I know it involved using a fresh iTunes installation on another device but that's not working

[zappaDPJ]

Well the first thing I've noticed is messaging is broken. I can't send any

[Gary]

Well the first thing I've noticed is messaging is broken. I can't send any

it's all working fine here that fact it's much better than the last version messaging is working fine and the weird stacks errors of gone as well

[Simon]

This may help with the iPad, Zap:

http://lifehacker.com/5848640/how-do-i-fix-my-bricked-iphone-ipad-or-ipod-touch

[Gary]

Remind me never to post from in bed with my glasses off before I go to sleep  *it's all working fine here in fact it's much better than the last version, messaging is working fine and the weird stacks errors have gone as well* On a side note Safari is now much smoother.

[zappaDPJ]

I finally managed to restore the iPad, the link simon posted reminded me of a step I'd forgotten so thanks for that. Interestingly there wasn't quite enough memory available to restore all the data which has convinced me never to upgrade again without having a little memory headroom.

Safari does indeed perform better although I still really dislike how it functions. Having to scroll up to reveal the navigation buttons is a retrograde step. The new menu system that shrinks the view-port is also a terrible idea for anyone needing reading glasses.

I still can't send messages on either iPad though, they just hang the app for about 5 minutes.

[Steve]

I too do not understand the navigation button change with Safari. It's irritating having to scroll up again a little to get them back.

[Gary]

If you just tap where the navigation bar buttons are they appear without having to scroll back up, I guess its done to give a clean look but its odd.

[Steve]

Ok I'll try that.

[zappaDPJ]

That does make it a little more tolerable, thanks Gary

[Gary]

Looks like iPad Air 2 is going to be very fast. 3 core CPU and 2GB ram, which I bet comes to the iPhone 6S. Waiting for mine to be delivered this week hopefully  I have no patience 

http://www.gsmarena.com/apple_ipad_air_2_benchmark_reveals_3core_cpu_and_2gb_of_ram-news-10003.php

[Simon]

I've heard they come with a hinge. 

[Steve]

  Having priced one up it's circa £700 with cover and extended warranty for me to do like for like with my current one.

I must be getting tight in my old age, very undecided. My gut feeling is to hold off for another year, the performance constraint for me outside the house is public WiFi and the mobile network not the iPad itself.

I think it's probably still the best tablet  but the others are not far behind and some come with a big cost saving.

[Gary]

Having priced one up it's circa £700 with cover and extended warranty for me to do like for like with my current one.

I must be getting tight in my old age, very undecided. My gut feeling is to hold off for another year, the performance constraint for me outside the house is public WiFi and the mobile network not the iPad itself.

I think it's probably still the best tablet  but the others are not far behind and some come with a big cost saving.

I just went for it, with a buyer for my iPad 4 it was not to bad a price. Its faster than some of the 2009/10 Mac Book Pro's which is a surprise. Also pixelmator is being released for the iPad and that would be the machine to use it on. I agree some other tablets come with the cost saving but I know it will get three updates it can handle, and some Android tablets may only see one. Since I use it more than my ageing iMac as well that helped me make my mind up. 

[Gary]

iOS 8.1.1 released with fixes for iPad 2 and iPhone 4s performance

[Simon]

Some might say about time too!

[Steve]

I'm hoping it addresses the issues of Safari stalling repeatedly and the frequent re loading of webpages due to errors.

[Gary]

Some might say about time too!

Took longer in iOS7 for a fix for the iPhone 4 it was 7.1 which was about 6 months in, Simon.

[Gary]

I'm hoping it addresses the issues of Safari stalling repeatedly and the frequent re loading of webpages due to errors.

I got the staling but not the reloading, links now work without having to scroll the page first slightly, where as before they got stuck.