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[zappaDPJ]

I don't know Simon, although I believe some don't include calls to any mobile numbers. It could be that IDNet are offering something more than other providers but it's somewhat irrelevant as there's no way to identify a MVNO number.

Just to be clear, I'm not suggesting this is an issue with IDNet, it needs regulating so that it can't occur. It's Russian roulette, pure and simple.

[Steve]

Looking through BTs price list is a nightmare but I can't see any differentiation of price costs for landline to mobile

[MisterW]

Likewise for PlusNet

Edit: I remembered seeing something a while ago regarding EE/TMobile charging for calls to MVNO operators Lyca and Lebarra, here it is http://www.mobilenewscwp.co.uk/2011/07/05/t-mobile-and-lycamobile-trade-insults-over-charges/

[nowster]

Looking through BTs price list is a nightmare but I can't see any differentiation of price costs for landline to mobile

It is indeed a nightmare.

https://www.bt.com/pricing/current/Call_Charges_boo/0016_d0e5.htm  lists standard residential charges.

https://www.bt.com/pricing/current/Call_Charges_boo/1631_d0e5.htm  lists dialling codes.

fm1 = Telefonica O2 Ltd
fm2 = Core Comms Services, Flextel Ltd
fm3 = EE (and former T-Mobile numbers)
fm4 = Orange
fm5 = C&W, TalkTalk and Vodafone
fm6 = Three
fm7 = TalkTalk
fm8 = C&W, Core Telecom Ltd
fm9 = Magrathea
fm10 = 24Seven Comms Ltd, Citrus Telecomms Ltd, Core Telecom Ltd, Jedillon Grant Ltd, Magrathea, Oxygen8 Comms Ltd, QX Telecom Ltd, Swiftnet Ltd, Telecom Media Ltd
fm11 = C&W, Core Telecom Ltd, Swiftnet Ltd
fm12 = Magrathea, Mundio Mobile
fm13/fm14/fm15 = no longer active
fm16 = C&W

No mention of the likes of Giffgaff, Asda, Tesco or Virgin Mobile.

[peasblossom]

Apart from VM, the others in that list use existing networks not their own. Giff Gaff is owned by O2, and Tesco Mobile is partly, for example, and The People's Operator uses EE's network though it's independent of them. Would they need to list these companies specifically?

[Independent]

Hi All

Nice to see so many comments on my post and the fact that IDnet have responded so well.

After my rant on Friday ( 05/12/14 ) my hat is off to Simon and staff at Idnet , looked on the website today ( Tue 08/12/14 ) and found they have produced a complete list ( 42 pages ) of Mobile/MVNO and private numbers that are and more importantly are not included in the "UK anytime + mobile" phone offer, so no more guess work.

Now that is more like the Idnet I know and use because of what I call customer service, excellent work guy's.

(Pity my account is still adrift as now being charged for calls on anytime, nevermind sort that tomorrow)

Well done IDnet

[pctech]

In some cases MVNOs only use the host network for transmission which probably explains the price differences as I explained earlier.

[Simon]

Hi All

Nice to see so many comments on my post and the fact that IDnet have responded so well.

After my rant on Friday ( 05/12/14 ) my hat is off to Simon and staff at Idnet , looked on the website today ( Tue 08/12/14 ) and found they have produced a complete list ( 42 pages ) of Mobile/MVNO and private numbers that are and more importantly are not included in the "UK anytime + mobile" phone offer, so no more guess work.

Now that is more like the Idnet I know and use because of what I call customer service, excellent work guy's.

(Pity my account is still adrift as now being charged for calls on anytime, nevermind sort that tomorrow)

Well done IDnet

That's excellent.  Thanks for letting us know. 

[Simon]

Sorry for the thickness, but what do the chargebands mean?

[MisterW]

and found they have produced a complete list ( 42 pages ) of Mobile/MVNO and private numbers that are and more importantly are not included in the "UK anytime + mobile" phone offer, so no more guess work.

Sorry for the thickness, but what do the chargebands mean?

The FM1-FM6(albeit not 2?) are the codes for the main networks since they could(but don't I think)make different termination charges. As for the others, well I've no idea.
Interestingly, my native Giffgaff no is shown as FM1 (O2) and an Orange no ported to Giffgaff is shown as FM4(Orange) and so both would appear to be included  in any mobile package.

[nowster]

Sorry for the thickness, but what do the chargebands mean?

You look them up in the other table here: https://www.idnet.net/voice_products/view_callrates.php?callrate=2012_LINEONLY

They don't actually mean anything. They're just labels.