Windows 10 to be the last

Glenn · May 09, 2015, 08:53:59

QuoteWindows 10 is going to be the last major revision of the operating system.
Jerry Nixon, a Microsoft development executive, said in a conference speech this week that Windows 10 would be the "last version" of the dominant desktop software.
His comments were echoed by Microsoft which said it would update Windows in future in an "ongoing manner

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-32658340

Simon · May 09, 2015, 09:48:23

It will be interesting to see where this goes. I'm holding onto Windows 7 and 8.1 for now. I know there's a free upgrade to Windows 10 but I can't help feeling there's a trap somewhere... $:-\$

Clive · May 09, 2015, 14:53:10

I'm waiting to buy a new laptop for Mrs Clive (capital expenditure authorised

) but I'm waiting for Win10 with SSD.

pctech · May 09, 2015, 16:48:33

Hmmmmm

I bet the system builders aren't particularly happy with the news as a new version is usually used as part of their marketing.

nowster · May 09, 2015, 17:17:50

The anticipated competition for Windows is now from the various Linux distributions, I suspect.

On the other hand, Microsoft has always wanted to go onto a subscription model...

pctech · May 09, 2015, 18:05:21

They are now with Office of course.

Regarding Windows I don't think it'll work for consumers but obviously with corporate volume licensing this has been the case for years so no change there.

I might switch to ReactOS.

Technical Ben · May 09, 2015, 22:12:39

When most people I know hear office is now subscription, they look for alternatives. :/

Though perhaps they are literal when they say it's the last version of Windows. After it's released the universe disappears in a puff of ~~bloatware~~ vapourware.

zappaDPJ · Jun 01, 2015, 15:52:21

I got notification of the free upgrade to 10 on all my Windows devices today. I've not heard of a firm launch date though, has anyone else?

Glenn · Jun 01, 2015, 16:11:45

29th July is the date I have seen. None of my PC's have the notification in the task bar as yet.

zappaDPJ · Jun 01, 2015, 17:18:09

Thanks Glenn. I'll probably hold off upgrading until I've read a few reports but I imagine I won't leave it too long.

Simon · Jun 01, 2015, 19:46:37

I'm still highly suspicious that there's something about it being 'free' which they're not telling us.

Clive · Jun 01, 2015, 19:51:37

I read the other day that optimists live lon

Simon · Jun 01, 2015, 20:27:02

Glenn · Jun 01, 2015, 20:28:11

https://www.microsoft.com/en-US/windows/windows-10-upgrade?OCID=ANNOUNCEMENTS_SOC_FB_ORGANIC_WIN10RESERVE&Ocid=%23Outbound%20-%20Announcements_Social_FBPAGE_Windows_20150601_186189258&linkId=14632710

Technical Ben · Jun 01, 2015, 22:59:29

Looking at the way it's advertised... it does not bode well. All "it's great, it's good and it's wonderful" hyperbole, but no actual meat or substance to the subject. Hmmm.

zappaDPJ · Jun 01, 2015, 23:18:59

Quote from: Technical Ben on Jun 01, 2015, 22:59:29
Looking at the way it's advertised... it does not bode well. All "it's great, it's good and it's wonderful" hyperbole, but no actual meat or substance to the subject. Hmmm.

But it's 'the best Windows ever'. What else do you need to know?

Simon · Jun 01, 2015, 23:31:44

Well, I've now had the notification to reserve my free upgrade on my Windows 8.1 laptop. But, I'm still not sure what happens after this, with future upgrades. If they're saying Windows 10 will be the last of it's kind, where is it going from there?

zappaDPJ · Jun 02, 2015, 00:25:12

Quote from: Simon on Jun 01, 2015, 23:31:44
If they're saying Windows 10 will be the last of it's kind, where is it going from there?

10.0.1?

I imagine the emphasis is to get everyone running on a single, unified product which automatically updates and hopefully improves over time. From Microsoft's point of view it means being able to support multiple platforms with just one O.S. version.

Simon · Jun 02, 2015, 12:09:33

I've now got the bloody icon on my Windows 7 machine, which I have no intention of upgrading. Apparently the icon can't 'simply' be removed, but there is a way, which is apparently to:

"Open Task Scheduler in Administration Tools ..Click on Task Scheduler Library then open Microsoft folder then Setup folder-there will be 2 folders-GWX and GWX triggers...you can disable them. The executable is C:\Windows\System32\GWX ...it is also called OutOfIdle."

The above was copied from a Twitter post and is untried by me.

Technical Ben · Jun 02, 2015, 19:58:48

Quote from: zappaDPJ on Jun 01, 2015, 23:18:59
But it's 'the best Windows ever'. What else do you need to know?

Some companies tick and tock each release (hardware or software). Others float and sink!

stevenrw · Jun 02, 2015, 22:26:45

Even if you give the MS marketing nonsense credibility, and it does result in a good OS, you'll still have the problem of drivers. Wether you like W8(.1) or not, if you have MFD's, cameras, sound cards graphics cards and various other software over, say, 2yrs old that are important to you, it'll be a while (if ever) that the manufacturers get around to releasing versions that will work with W10.
HID bitterly berates me on a regular basis since I bought her a new lappy because the scanner on our old Epson MFD doesn't work like it used to under W8.1.
Its all my fault of course...

pctech · Jun 04, 2015, 19:25:09

As far as I understand it the notification only appears if everything is ok in terms of service packs, updates and hardware support.

colirv · Jun 05, 2015, 00:59:30

I upgraded from Windows 7 to 10 (Insider Preview) several weeks ago. Had to upgrade my printer driver to Windows 8, otherwise I haven't had any problems so far. I like the new layout better than 7 or 8.1 (even with classic shell).

Technical Ben · Jun 05, 2015, 12:21:06

Quote from: stevenrw on Jun 02, 2015, 22:26:45
Even if you give the MS marketing nonsense credibility, and it does result in a good OS, you'll still have the problem of drivers. Wether you like W8(.1) or not, if you have MFD's, cameras, sound cards graphics cards and various other software over, say, 2yrs old that are important to you, it'll be a while (if ever) that the manufacturers get around to releasing versions that will work with W10.
HID bitterly berates me on a regular basis since I bought her a new lappy because the scanner on our old Epson MFD doesn't work like it used to under W8.1.
Its all my fault of course...

Seen quite a few laptops and tablets ship without functioning camera or wifi... hmmm.

Clive · Jun 15, 2015, 22:42:36

Quote from: Simon on Jun 02, 2015, 12:09:33
I've now got the bloody icon on my Windows 7 machine, which I have no intention of upgrading. Apparently the icon can't 'simply' be removed, but there is a way, which is apparently to:

"Open Task Scheduler in Administration Tools ..Click on Task Scheduler Library then open Microsoft folder then Setup folder-there will be 2 folders-GWX and GWX triggers...you can disable them. The executable is C:\Windows\System32\GWX ...it is also called OutOfIdle."

The above was copied from a Twitter post and is untried by me.

I have another method: You remove the 'Get Windows 10' icon the same way you would any other update. Go to Control Panel -> Programs and Features -> Uninstall an update -> look for "KB3035583" and "KB2952664" and uninstall them. The reboot and the icon should be gone.