Windows 10 to be the last

zappaDPJ · Aug 11, 2015, 12:30:47

Quote from: Simon on Aug 11, 2015, 09:27:45
This is my worry with my Windows 7 machine, which is why I'm not upgrading it.

The problem is it's almost inevitable that you will need to upgrade somewhere down the line. I'd already reached that point as I need to be able to replicate and fix website compatibility issues with the new browser. I'm still finding problems on this PC but so far I've managed to fix most things as I go. I have major reservations with the amount of data being sent to Microsoft. I'm looking at that now. I also had the horror of seeing the Kardashian name come up on my start menu this morning

I've upgraded another PC today. It's got virtually nothing on it other than Firefox and Office. That one locked up during the upgrade but it installed at the second attempt and now seems fine.

Simon · Aug 11, 2015, 16:15:08

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/microsoft/windows/11796433/Windows-10-update-forces-PCs-into-reboot-loop.html

JB · Aug 11, 2015, 17:08:51

This mandatory update procedure for home users is proving very popular, isn't it

zappaDPJ · Aug 11, 2015, 22:16:16

I do seem to keep encountering problems. Warnings about the last plugged in USB device failing and my PC is no longer authorised in iTunes. The area on the task bar that allows you to minimise everything running is about 2 pixels wide. Is that correct?

[EDIT] Other problems include American language settings on all the upgraded computers which for reasons I can't fathom stopped the email from being downloaded on the other PC

[EDIT Son of Edit] I've got a program that once run sits in the system tray continually polling a remote server for updates. On a cold start it auto-runs. It now appears non-functional with Windows suggesting I need to get an app version which doesn't exist.

[EDIT The Return of Edit] So now I discover my iPad has lost all its apps, restore won't restore and I need to manually replace them. This is starting to get annoying.

Glenn · Aug 12, 2015, 07:39:14

Try running "sfc/scannow" as admin from a cmd prompt.

Simon · Aug 12, 2015, 08:30:46

Re: [EDIT The Return of Edit] - I can't see how that can be anything to do with Windows as the apps are stored in your iTunes account.

Gary · Aug 12, 2015, 09:18:57

With iTunes just re-authorise this computer. It may be the upgrade upset something. On OS X its account Authorise this computer, not sure on Windows. It should have asked you to authorise before syncing.

zappaDPJ · Aug 12, 2015, 11:59:17

That's pretty much it. It did ask me to authorise but failed to do so at Apple's end and continued on to sync. The reason it failed is because the PC is already authorised but Windows 10 stopped it being recognised as such. It's not an uncommon issue after upgrading to Windows 10 according to Google. Suggested fixes range from rebooting your hardware to de-authorising and then reauthorising it.

Quote from: Glenn on Aug 12, 2015, 07:39:14
Try running "sfc/scannow" as admin from a cmd prompt.

Microsoft Windows [Version 10.0.10240]
(c) 2015 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\WINDOWS\system32>sfc/scannow

Beginning system scan. This process will take some time.

Beginning verification phase of system scan.
Verification 100% complete.

Windows Resource Protection found corrupt files but was unable to fix some
of them. Details are included in the CBS.Log windir\Logs\CBS\CBS.log. For
example C:\Windows\Logs\CBS\CBS.log. Note that logging is currently not
supported in offline servicing scenarios.

C:\WINDOWS\system32>

The log file contains hundreds, perhaps even thousands of warnings but I have very little idea what any of it means.

Den · Aug 12, 2015, 19:03:36

A few months ago using W8.1 I lost the ability to email invoices from QuickBooks via Outlook 2010. Tonight I needed to send a invoice to the Welsh Government accounts and had no problem at all (I like Windows 10)

Steve · Aug 12, 2015, 19:26:04

Out of interest do you have to send it bilingually?

Den · Aug 12, 2015, 19:38:52

I would if it was the only way of getting my money, but no they accept it in Broken English.

mervl · Aug 13, 2015, 10:07:52

Quote from: zappaDPJ on Aug 12, 2015, 11:59:17
That's pretty much it. It did ask me to authorise but failed to do so at Apple's end and continued on to sync. The reason it failed is because the PC is already authorised but Windows 10 stopped it being recognised as such. It's not an uncommon issue after upgrading to Windows 10 according to Google. Suggested fixes range from rebooting your hardware to de-authorising and then reauthorising it.

Had the same issue with MS own Office 365 Subscription! But couldn't deauthorise the laptop concerned, so had to remove another PC and then re-authorise both (so the same laptop now has two Office authorisations out of my permitted number), and reboot. Not quite the disaster with the AMD disk on my newer laptop though. Install hangs for nearly 24 hours at 99% (96% settings), switched off it doesn't revert to W7 as it should for an incomplete install, but boots in W10 but with no wifi capability and with half the programs missing or not working even after reinstall, or just a blank screen. Can't revert in settings, it just hangs, even overnight. So now in course of doing the manufacturers factory reset (takes 1/2 hour compared to MS several hours). It seems from reading around that W10 not uncommonly gives problems with AMD disks. More like a beta upgrade perhaps? I know MS have always made everything ten times as complex as it should be, so we have to expect it I suppose.

zappaDPJ · Aug 13, 2015, 14:35:43

Ouch

I still have a laptop and another PC to go. My main PC is usable but not happy. I'm going to live with it and do a fresh install when I have a few weeks free.

zappaDPJ · Aug 15, 2015, 12:34:48

I'm starting to wonder if I'm paying a price for not upgrading to Windows 8. The amount of stuff I'm finding to be bugged or in need of re-installation or just completely broken is quite alarming. Even Google Maps has stopped working in all browsers. The number of driver and application updates I'm receiving suggests to me there are a lot of problems with Windows 10 at the moment.

Gary · Aug 16, 2015, 11:13:10

Quote from: zappaDPJ on Aug 15, 2015, 12:34:48
I'm starting to wonder if I'm paying a price for not upgrading to Windows 8. The amount of stuff I'm finding to be bugged or in need of re-installation or just completely broken is quite alarming. Even Google Maps has stopped working in all browsers. The number of driver and application updates I'm receiving suggests to me there are a lot of problems with Windows 10 at the moment.

Its always the same with new releases, being at the bleeding edge hurts Zap

I wont be updating to the new OS X till the first or second point release, honestly I cant be bothered any more, I hardly use my iMac now. The older I get the more I seem to want a quite life and tech just gets in the way, or annoys me. Windows 10 seems more like a Trojan than an OS right now too.

Windows 8 was set up for privacy out the box, 10 seems set up to broadcast your keystrokes, wifi info and your inside leg measurement, and along with the Nvidia issues and other problems I think waiting a while seems a good idea. Like so many things these days we are the beta testers as usual and I could happily avoid that with any OS tbh.

zappaDPJ · Aug 16, 2015, 12:29:15

I had no intention of upgrading in the short term but it seems almost everyone else did so I had little choice but to join the party. Having done so it seems most of the problems they are reporting are with Windows 10 and not my websites.

Lance · Aug 17, 2015, 13:08:35

Could you have not just used a VM, Zap?

zappaDPJ · Aug 17, 2015, 15:01:15

Quote from: Lance on Aug 17, 2015, 13:08:35
Could you have not just used a VM, Zap?

That was the intention but I didn't really have the disk space so I threw caution to the wind and paid the price for it

Simon · Aug 17, 2015, 15:17:24

Plus, that would have been much too easy.

Technical Ben · Aug 18, 2015, 20:15:07

Quote from: zappaDPJ on Aug 16, 2015, 12:29:15
I had no intention of upgrading in the short term but it seems almost everyone else did so I had little choice but to join the party. Having done so it seems most of the problems they are reporting are with Windows 10 and not my websites.

"Everyone else did" and "little choice" are not phrases I put in my vocabulary. I'll grit my teeth and fight against the wind, though usually because I want some tastey grub, and not the rubbish the masses "choose" to eat.

PS, nothing wrong with simple common food, but is something wrong with some of the junk that's put out some times.

zappaDPJ · Aug 18, 2015, 20:58:05

I don't disagree but I get paid to maintain their websites so I really have to stay uptodate no matter how irritating it is. I did hold out for an entire week though

Technical Ben · Aug 19, 2015, 23:53:01

Yep, I know that feeling. Had a "rep" for our products visit today. They "answered" my questions with really helpful "buzzwords" and "statistics" such as "improves visible definition by up to 10%" and "enhances the brilliance of the qualitiy by up to 50%". So all meaningless drivel I have to keep up with.

zappaDPJ · Aug 20, 2015, 07:24:05

Glenn · Aug 20, 2015, 09:01:46

For the tin hat wearers http://betanews.com/2015/08/18/lock-down-windows-10s-privacy-settings-with-oo-shutup10/

pctech · Aug 20, 2015, 20:05:01

Once you've done the upgrade if you create a disk or flash drive with the Media Creation tool it's bootable and you can do a proper clean install.

When asked for a licence key just skip it and it'll activate itself anyway as it gets ted to your windows 7/8 activation on MS' activation servers.

I quite like it myself.