Moving Line / Installing New Extension Sockets........Will it Help or Hinder ?

Started by Kheldar, Aug 22, 2007, 09:46:24

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Kheldar

You are all mostly aware of the rubbish that is deemed 'broadband' by BT etc connected to my house  :P

It looks like the study will soon be moving to the other end of the house as the study as it is becomes the nursery.

The room we'll be moving the 2 pc's to does not have a BT socket so i'm assuming i need to get them / someone to fit a new one.

Any advice on this ?  Does it matter who / whats fitted ? Should i get general phone line looked at whilst I get this work done ?

And do i have a cats chance in hell of making my connection any better (or worse :()


Rik

Assuming you have an NTE5 master socket (sorry, can't remember) then it will be cheaper to do the work yourself, or get someone other than BT in. You may, in the process, improve your signal if you disconnect the existing extension wiring. Alternatively, you could get BT in to do the work, including having a look at the existing wiring, but you are only likely to be able to get a voice engineer out - so things might not be optimal for ADSL. Cost is going to be £160+.

Your best option might be to fit a filtered faceplate, and then run Cat5 cable to the study.
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Inactive

If you are going to be just using the computers in the new study, and not a telephone, then the plug in/mains type devices would perhaps be OK.

A Dect Telephone would overcome any need for actual telephone wiring, should you require a phone in the study.

None of the above is likely to improve your BB though. :'(
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Kheldar

Whats an NTE5 master socket ?

afaik, i am not using the master socket for BB atm in the study.

when you say disconnect the current study wiring - how ?  BT person to do ?

i'd love to have someone from BT who knows what they are doing (is that possible!) but cannot afford that sorta money.

Do not need a telephone in the new study - tbh we do not have a phone plugged into our home line in the house, only in the outbuildings where Rach works - only need the pc's connected for BB.

What do you mean by 'plug in / mains type devices' Inactive?

Rik

An NTE5 is the latest type of master socket, where the bottom part of the faceplate can be removed. The best way to regularise your wiring is to remove everything from the master socket and then connect only the bits you need, less wiring = less noise pickup. To do the work, you would need to have an IDC tool to make the connections.

You can get BT out to do it, but it costs serious money and there's no way round that which I know of. :( Take a look in local shops, newspapers etc and see if there are any BT engineers, or ex-BT engineers, doing private work.

The mains devices Inactive is referring to are things like these from Devolo.
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Inactive

Quote from: Rik on Aug 22, 2007, 12:25:15


The mains devices Inactive is referring to are things like these from Devolo.

Thanks Rik, I knew what they were, but I couldn't remember their name.

( It's a good job us " oldies " are here innit ) ;D ;D
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ReDGryphoN

Another option if you an do it (normally aesthetically) is to fit the filtered faceplate (a few around but all seem much of muchness) and connect your router as close to the master socket as possible, then run Cat5e cabling from the router to the study. Thats what I have done and got a signal as good as the test socket in the master socket at my PC.

Some filters allow you to hard wire from terminals on the back of the filter unit as well as a plug in the front.

I hope this makes sense.

These are good 

http://www.clarity.it/telecoms/adsl_bits.htm

http://forum.adslnation.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1761

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Kheldar

Quote from: Si6776 on Aug 22, 2007, 12:46:07
What was that about suppositories?    :o ;D
hehe, i resisted typing that when i saw Rik's post, as i'm reformed and will no more lower the tone of these forums..... :P

oh and i also do not wish to upset my elders, many of which inhabit these forums  ;D



Red :  thanks, i'll check those link and will see if i have one of them new fangled double jointed faceplates on my master socket.  certainly dont on the socket in use atm.

Simon

Quote from: Kheldar on Aug 22, 2007, 13:56:40
hehe, i resisted typing that when i saw Rik's post, as i'm reformed and will no more lower the tone of these forums..... :P

oh and i also do not wish to upset my elders, many of which inhabit these forums  ;D

Oh, I am far from refined, and I'm an absolute expert at lowering the tone!   :evilb:
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ReDGryphoN

It's no wonder really is it that Rik has over 10,000 posts !!!

I am so glad he is so concise and precise otherwise he would be spamming up these valued forums !!

lol

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Rik

Quote from: ReDGryphoN on Aug 22, 2007, 14:21:58
It's no wonder really is it that Rik has over 10,000 posts !!!

It's not easy being as verbose as I am. ;)
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