At last!

Rik · Nov 12, 2007, 11:09:32

The BBC is reporting a Govt backed campaign being to warn people of the potential dangers that come with being online.

"Get Safe Online, a government-backed campaign group, is warning against posting personal details online.

Its research also showed eight million people leave home wireless networks unprotected against intruders.

And more than half of the over-65s polled use a single password for every website they visit, the group said.

The group is advising older internet users to change their passwords more often."

Inactive · Nov 12, 2007, 11:26:49

I fear that it will not do any good Rik, my visitors that have been here for the weekend, know SFA about computers, went in to PC World, bought what the sales dummy told them was " good " ..purchased Norton Security, and then signed up with Tiscali.

Rik · Nov 12, 2007, 11:29:14

A triple whammy. Ouch.

I guess you're going to be getting a lot of phone calls then...

jupiter · Nov 12, 2007, 14:11:59

Quote from: Rik on Nov 12, 2007, 11:09:32
And more than half of the over-65s polled use a single password for every website they visit, the group said.

Well, I've never had a problem with my single password.

Who could possible guess "silversurfer", so I'll stick with it.

Malc · Nov 12, 2007, 14:13:24

Quote from: Inactive on Nov 12, 2007, 11:26:49
I fear that it will not do any good Rik, my visitors that have been here for the weekend, know SFA about computers, went in to PC World, bought what the sales dummy told them was " good " ..purchased Norton Security, and then signed up with Tiscali.

They probably bought Vista as well

Rik · Nov 12, 2007, 14:31:41

Quote from: jupiter on Nov 12, 2007, 14:11:59
Who could possible guess "silversurfer", so I'll stick with it.

I'm more a salt and pepper surfer myself.

Inactive · Nov 12, 2007, 15:18:14

Quote from: gallo on Nov 12, 2007, 14:13:24

They probably bought Vista as well

Got it on the Packard Bell Computer, at least I cannot answer questions on that.

Rik · Nov 12, 2007, 15:21:44

PC World, Packard Bell, Norton, Tiscali and Vista.

Now we know why you're off to Spain!

Inactive · Nov 12, 2007, 15:25:16

Quote from: Rik on Nov 12, 2007, 15:21:44
PC World, Packard Bell, Norton, Tiscali and Vista.

Fortunately, they live 100 miles away, so no popping around..

Rik · Nov 12, 2007, 15:26:37

Don't introduce them to VOIP whatever you do.

Hang on, Tiscali - you're safe there then.

Inactive · Nov 12, 2007, 15:30:42

Quote from: Rik on Nov 12, 2007, 15:26:37
Don't introduce them to VOIP whatever you do.

Hang on, Tiscali - you're safe there then.

HaHaHaHa, indeed, Tiscali would never give enough speed for VOIP to function, that's a blessing.

MoHux · Nov 12, 2007, 17:21:25

I can accept criticism of Vista from someone who is using it, but I get irritated by seeing it from people who haven't tried it, and appear to be still trying to convince themselves there is a good reason not to (other than financial!!

).

I have been using it for months and am very pleased with it.

The only 'problems' can be traced to OEMs of soft and hard ware, refusing to upgrade existing products. Usually so as to force you into buying their 'latest' creation.

My answer was to install a second HDD, Windows XP Home SP2 on one, and Vista on 'tother. I use Vista from preference, but if something I want won't run on it, it goes on XP.

Rik · Nov 12, 2007, 17:26:35

Everyone's entitled to an opinion on the issue, Mo, it's what forums are about.

I have a copy of Vista Ultimate here but I don't run it because (a) I find that with each version of Windows, MS reduces the amount of control I have over the machine and (b) as you rightly say, third parties haven't done a good job with driver support. One of my printers would have to be replaced completely as the hardware is incompatible.

I'm sufficient of a Luddite to still miss DOS.

MoHux · Nov 12, 2007, 17:55:53

Quote from: RikEveryone's entitled to an opinion on the issue, Mo, it's what forums are about. ................

I don't really need telling that Rik! That includes me!

Forums are about debate, so .......... as I said, how can anyone have an opinion of something they have never tried??

As for your reason for not running Vista, for years we have ALL complained of lack of security in 'Windows'. They have tried to answer that, but you can't have absolute control and be secure.

Rik · Nov 12, 2007, 18:05:38

Quote from: MoHux on Nov 12, 2007, 17:55:53
Forums are about debate, so .......... as I said, how can anyone have an opinion of something they have never tried??

I guess that many of our purchasing decisions are made on the basis of reading what others have said about a product, whether that's users or journalists.

QuoteAs for your reason for not running Vista, for years we have ALL complained of lack of security in 'Windows'. They have tried to answer that, but you can't have absolute control and be secure.

My problem with that is accepting that MS have made Vista secure. I prefer to be able to 'get my hands dirty' so to speak, and control the security myself, as best I can. It used to be that a secure machine was one in which you never used a floppy disk from a third party, nowadays life is much more complex.

Simon · Nov 12, 2007, 20:58:52

I tend to agree with the DIY ethos when it comes to security. I'm not knocking Vista, as I actually have no problem with it, but if it's so secure, why do they have to keep issuing patches for it?

Lance · Nov 12, 2007, 21:08:19

Although since I've had Vista I don't think there has been as many patches for it compared to my XP machine.

Simon · Nov 12, 2007, 21:31:51

Give it time, Lance.