Microsoft stealth updates

Started by Gary, Sep 15, 2007, 10:37:12

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Gary

Morning people  ;D Well It seems at about 2am Microsoft has been doing stealth updates to its Windows Update service client side without notification! Some people have noticed this in their event log and this is even if you have it set to not auto update it appears, this also happens when you visit the windows update site. the response from Microsoft is as follows : Microsoft "Microsoft Corp. Thursday essentially called the concerns over undercover updates to Windows XP and Windows Vista a tempest in a teapot, saying that silent modifications to the Windows Update (WU) software have been a longtime practice and are needed to keep users patched.

Seems we have even less control than it seems these days over what happens on our machines, full story here: http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/137208/microsoft_downplays_stealth_update_concerns.html
Damned, if you do damned if you don't

Rik

I read this, Gary. Rock and hard place - we can't avoid what MS are doing unless we are prepared to run Windows unpatched (or move to Linux, of course ;)).
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Odos

Or you could do as I do and that is a totally manual install of updates, it does take more time and you do need imaging software.

First make an image of your bare windows installation.
Then do a manual download and save to your hard drive of the updates you want/need. Of course this means letting M$ update the WU software so you can get them.
Wipe the partition and re-install your clean imaged windows installation.
Apply the updates/patches from your hard drive.

Cheers
   Tony
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Noreen

This subject has been discussed on another forum to which I belong and attention was drawn to this item which may be helpful http://blogs.technet.com/mu/

Rik

Useful link, thanks Noreen. :)
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Rik

Quote from: Odos on Sep 15, 2007, 11:10:50
Wipe the partition and re-install your clean imaged windows installation.
Apply the updates/patches from your hard drive.

Interesting technique, Tony. Jumping through hoops comes to mind. :)
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Gary

Quote from: Rik on Sep 15, 2007, 10:48:10
I read this, Gary. Rock and hard place - we can't avoid what MS are doing unless we are prepared to run Windows unpatched (or move to Linux, of course ;)).
Oh I agree Rik but I like to be notified when configuration changes take place its like if I came to re-paint your house without asking, okay I did it and that's good and what you may have wanted but you would like to be notified I'm sure, I don't mind patching, as you said we have to be up to date but be open about it, or use Linux  ;)
Damned, if you do damned if you don't

Rik

I agree completely - MS should be much more open about what they are doing.
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cavillas

Just found also that Microsoft have stopped Autopatch from giving out updates via their site.  Ms have been happy with Autopatcher for the past 4 years so why stop them now? >:(
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Rik

I don't know, Alf, but more control seems to be the likely reason. Shame, it was a good service. :(
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cavillas

Luckily enough Rik, I have kept all the AutoPatch files for xp and 2000 right up to August.  At least it will give me head start when I re-install. ;D
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Rik

You could start a small business selling CDs!  :)
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cavillas

Might have to pay tax then, given that up some years ago.  ;D
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Rik

Put the business in your wife's name - or Lance's.  >:D
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Lance

Of course, I would have to take a large share of the profits! :)
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Rik

Only if Alf lets you know... ;)
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cavillas

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Lance

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Rik

Quote from: cavillas on Sep 18, 2007, 13:51:43
Who's Lance? ::) ;D

Hey Alf, you just made Guru - have a karma to celebrate.  ;D
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cavillas

Hey me Mr Guru how do you do  ;D  Thanks Rik
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