Government to intervene ?

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Scott

Sep 19, 2007, 12:58:02
Well spank my bottom until it goes purple !
This piece of news had me spitting up my lunch time coffee I can tell you !!

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Rik

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Sep 19, 2007, 13:03:59
It's a politician, Scott. Don't get too excited. :)
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Gary

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Sep 19, 2007, 13:13:30
Quote from: Scott on Sep 19, 2007, 12:58:02
Well spank my bottom until it goes purple !
This piece of news had me spitting up my lunch time coffee I can tell you !!

Whooo!
Is there really a Minister for Competitiveness  :laugh: surely by default we need a Minister for Over Competitiveness to balance it out!
Damned, if you do damned if you don't

Lance

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Sep 19, 2007, 13:14:39
Quote from: Scott on Sep 19, 2007, 12:58:02
Well spank my bottom until it goes purple !

:whip: :whip: ;D

Whilst I agree that the government needs to intervene and utimately foot the bill for part of it, I can't see it happening in reality.
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Gary

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Sep 19, 2007, 13:20:12
Quote from: Lance on Sep 19, 2007, 13:14:39
:whip: :whip: ;D

Whilst I agree that the government needs to intervene and utimately foot the bill for part of it, I can't see it happening in reality.
I have to agree with you Lance, lots of hot air to make people think something will happen but in  respect if people have never experienced even 24mb lines then who is going to really notice, 40% of the country I read somewhere says it has no need for Broadband and dialup is just fine, with that apathy the UK will just slip quietly behind as usual and that will be that.
Damned, if you do damned if you don't

Rik

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Sep 19, 2007, 14:25:27
I suspect the driving force will be commerce. Firms will be keen to sell us VOD services etc, and can only do that if the infrastructure can cope. If they think there's a profit to be made, they will invest, otherwise... :(
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Gary

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Sep 19, 2007, 14:38:48
Quote from: Rik on Sep 19, 2007, 14:25:27
I suspect the driving force will be commerce. Firms will be keen to sell us VOD services etc, and can only do that if the infrastructure can cope. If they think there's a profit to be made, they will invest, otherwise... :(
That's what worries me with this Rik, with the British apathy deeply installed in a large percentage of the populous they won't care how fast they go there exists a  "it works that's enough for me" mentality and I cant see the money being pumped in if the demand is not there, look at the loss made by mobile providers over 3G. Business will demand more as you say but here it will end up being specialised installations, I fear copper and ADSL2+ for many a year to come with speeds still not getting much better due to line noise issues anyway and maybe worse, we have BE at our exchange and with our line quality unless you move into the exchange itself you wont get much better than ADSL Max speeds anyway.
Damned, if you do damned if you don't

Rik

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Sep 19, 2007, 14:54:10
I agree, Gary, if it's going to happen it will be in the big towns, very much where cable is. :(
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jupiter

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Sep 19, 2007, 16:36:35
Well I'm disappointed in all you cynics.  For once here is the govt giving us a rallying call.

I, for one, am off outside now. 

I'm going to start my trench for fibre and keep going from this end till I join up with BT coming the other way.

Then who'll be laughing!

Rik

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Sep 19, 2007, 16:41:31
Good for you, Jupiter. When you pass Milton Keynes, could you detour a little and join my trench please? :)
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Den

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Sep 19, 2007, 17:15:57
last time one of my family was in a trench it was 1918.  :angel:
Mr Music Man.

Rik

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Sep 19, 2007, 17:16:58
Well, I was thinking of communication trenches. ;)
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MoHux

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Sep 19, 2007, 18:07:43
Quote from: Den on Sep 19, 2007, 17:15:57
last time one of my family was in a trench it was 1918.  :angel:

It's about time you let 'em out.  ::)

WE WON!! :ukflag:
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Rik

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Sep 19, 2007, 18:21:50
Twice, even. :)
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J!ll

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Sep 19, 2007, 18:30:36
Quote from: Den on Sep 19, 2007, 17:15:57
last time one of my family was in a trench it was 1918.  :angel:

;D 

jupiter

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Sep 19, 2007, 18:53:01
Quote from: Rik on Sep 19, 2007, 16:41:31
Good for you, Jupiter. When you pass Milton Keynes, could you detour a little and join my trench please? :)

It is proving slower going than I expected.  I do seem to be cutting through quite a lot of other cable-type thingies as I go - but I don't suppose anyone will notice.  Some of them have BSkyB written on them - ooh, there's one says Tiscali, but it's broken already.

At least the street is bright up ahead.  It's strangely dark behind me though ...

Rik

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Sep 19, 2007, 18:54:05
 ;D

I've missed your humour, Jupiter. :)
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jupiter

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Sep 19, 2007, 18:56:41
It's down here in a trench Rik! - gone underground!

Rik

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Sep 19, 2007, 18:58:37
Metroland? ;)
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jupiter

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Sep 19, 2007, 19:17:40
Well, I have found a ready made tunnel, so going is much faster.

Trouble is the lights on the trains don't give me much warning.

Worse than that - they are Metropolitan line so I'm obviously nowhere near deep enough.  >:(

Den

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Sep 19, 2007, 20:49:43
Is this something new that I missed? Trains going underground, what about all the smoke?  :-\
Mr Music Man.

Rik

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Sep 20, 2007, 00:55:44
Quote from: jupiter on Sep 19, 2007, 19:17:40
Worse than that - they are Metropolitan line so I'm obviously nowhere near deep enough.  >:(

That was fast progress from Wales, though. :)
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Sep 20, 2007, 00:56:19
Quote from: Den on Sep 19, 2007, 20:49:43
Is this something new that I missed? Trains going underground, what about all the smoke?  :-\

It's only cut and cover, you just breath very shallowly. :)
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Gary

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Sep 20, 2007, 09:23:04
Quote from: jupiter on Sep 19, 2007, 16:36:35
Well I'm disappointed in all you cynics.  For once here is the govt giving us a rallying call.

I, for one, am off outside now. 

I'm going to start my trench for fibre and keep going from this end till I join up with BT coming the other way.

Then who'll be laughing!
BT as they won't have dug a trench and think fibre just keeps you regular  >:D
Damned, if you do damned if you don't

CaptainSlow

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Sep 24, 2007, 08:11:08
Rik, I can give you a peering arrangement for Far Bletchley trench! ;D

Den, I've some bad news, there's this new unsinkable boat you've not heard about yet, and it's been lost to an iceberg on it's maiden voyage sadly. No news of the iceberg, but the Titanic is no more. :o

All, I reckon the way forward is to support Google and their wifi ideas, it would cut out all the debate quick sharp and get us what we need but won't otherwise get.

No, not wonderful, but a solution that would at least be viable. ::)
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