Apple getting it right first time ?

old Bill · Oct 29, 2007, 19:23:33

This report from the BBC seems to think that Apples new O/S is worth the money. Oh well another nail in the coffin for Vista

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7066995.stm

john · Oct 29, 2007, 20:08:45

Quote from: old Bill on Oct 29, 2007, 19:23:33
This report from the BBC seems to think that Apples new O/S is worth the money. Oh well another nail in the coffin for Vista
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7066995.stm

There is another recent thread on Idnetters regarding operating systems so at the risk of repeating myself to some extent: the company I work for, like many others, for has tens of thousands of PC's and they will not be binning them and all the Office, financial and engineering applications that only run on Windows, nor will they be spending money re-negotiating all the million pound third party support contracts just to get a different operating system because some home users consider it to be better.

We have only in the last couple of years moved from Windows NT to XP as there has to be extensive testing to ensure applications run as expected between two versions of Windows. They are only now looking at Vista and it'll probably be a couple of years before everything is certified to run on it before we migrate again.

I'm not trying to defend Windows and although I've not used any of the Mac OS's I'll take your word that they are superior but minority OS users need to look at the bigger picture and realise that the OS is not the most important consideration for industrial applications which depend on application compatibility and readily available support.

In some ways it's similar to the old Betamax versus VHS sytems, Betamax was widely regarded as being superior but as VHS was cheaper and had better availability of the media it far outsold it's rivals.

Lance · Oct 29, 2007, 20:22:44

I was reading earlier about this new Apple OS not supporting the latest version of Java, as well as having lots of other bugs and incompatibilites.

Kheldar · Oct 30, 2007, 08:06:14

pah and i thought this was a food thread

i use the Lemon O/S myself Lance, otherwise known as Windows

Rik · Oct 30, 2007, 09:34:21

You're going to have to post a photo, Steve, I'm beginning to think you must be about my weight!

Gary · Oct 30, 2007, 12:26:59

Think all the folks upgrading getting the BSOD may disagree with the BBC! http://www.nordichardware.com/news,6987.html

Kheldar · Oct 31, 2007, 07:28:23

Quote from: Rik on Oct 30, 2007, 09:34:21
You're going to have to post a photo, Steve, I'm beginning to think you must be about my weight!

now should i take that as an insult or not Rik

Rik · Oct 31, 2007, 07:50:34

It depends on how tall you are...

Bat · Nov 03, 2007, 10:41:37

Hi,
Interstingly John, Betamax is used at a professional level!
Cheers,
Gavin

Inactive · Nov 03, 2007, 10:56:03

Quote from: Bat on Nov 03, 2007, 10:41:37
Hi,
Interstingly John, Betamax is used at a professional level!
Cheers,
Gavin

Indeed Gavin, the death of Betamax came about by the TV Rental chains having a contract with Ferguson ( mainly ) which used Matsushita ( Panasonic ) units with a Ferguson badge on.

Not many people could afford the £6/700 cost of a VCR, so mainly rented the Ferguson's from the TV Rental chains.

Najarak · Nov 11, 2007, 15:00:23

Quote from: Killhippie on Oct 30, 2007, 12:26:59
Think all the folks upgrading getting the BSOD may disagree with the BBC! http://www.nordichardware.com/news,6987.html

I have installed Leopard on two iMacs, the actual installation process was a right pain because I chose the "easy" option and tried the upgrade route rather than "archive and install", Apple have changed the way that file permissions are handled in Leopard and this produced a new user called "_unknown", I could not log in to the computers at all. In the end I decided to do an "archive and reinstall", then changed the ownership and permissions of my files ( not difficult ) and then reinstalled my programmes, in many cases only a matter of dragging the icon from the old Applications folder into the new one and then re-entering the licence number.

Canon's LiDE 500F scanner was initially a problem, however completely uninstalling the old drivers and installing the latest ones from Canon's website cured this and it now works perfectly, although not through a USB hub.

The problems that I had were also the disadvantage of installing the OS when new, if I had waited a couple of months these problems would not have occurred. From the Apple forum on TBB many people have had no trouble at all.

Leopard has some amazing features, such as "Cover Flow" which allows one to view documents instantly merely by pressing the space bar, and works like greased lightning even on my older iMac. I'm now going to try installing XP Pro on my new Intel iMac because my classical music catalogue is a Windows only programme, AFAIK there is only one programme available to catalogue large collections of classical recordings even on Windows. I used to be able to run this on a Mac using a programme called Virtual PC, but Microsoft bought it and stifled development of it.