New NOD to be released on November 5

[Rik]

See the Eset site.

Lots of new features to play with.

[Noreen]

Thanks Rik. Hope that NOD32 doesn't get too complicated.

[Rik]

I'll probably stand back a while, Noreen, and let some knowledge build up over at Wilders before I move.

[Noreen]

I've posted your info on the American (mostly) computer forum to which I belong, there's bound to be some there who'll try it straight away. 

[Rik]

Good move Noreen, let's get the others to work it out for us.

[mrapoc]

I put this up on OC3D as soon as Wilders announced it 

I've been BETA testing it for a while and its improved greatly - Not 100% on the firewall but it will improve. Users will get a discount if you upgrade to the suit (plus a bit extra on the license) before new year  iirc, I may 

[Rik]

if you upgrade to the suit

Would that be morning, lounge or dinner, Sam? 

[Noreen]

There seem to be some problems with the new version, I'm certainly not upgrading yet. http://www.wilderssecurity.com/forumdisplay.php?s=fb6f93e4e0125b7bd846980306248777&f=88

[Rik]

I'm going to let all the beta testers go first too, Noreen.

[jupiter]

I'm going to let all the beta testers go first too, Noreen.

Good policy with almost everything, including consumer electronics.  Early birds often pay more, get an untested product and end up obsolete

[Gary]

I'm going to let all the beta testers go first too, Noreen.

Its always the case, as Jupiter and Rik said, never buy version 1 (or updated version) of anything till its been out for a while

[Rik]

Especially if it's 'mission critical' as AV software is.

[Noreen]

However, further to my previous post, a very knowledgeable member of another computer forum has installed it on a XP machine and said..........

"So far I find the new version 3 a big improvement. Gone is all the AMON DMON EMON IMON nonsense. It is all integrated. Much cleaner interface."

Which does seem hopeful. 

[Rik]

I'm sure it will be good, Noreen, I'll just wait for any bugs to be ironed out. Or, if I get impatient, I'll maybe put it on the lappy.

[Gary]

Especially if it's 'mission critical' as AV software is.

You could not be more correct Rik, alas with the huge variation in pc configuration this is bound to happen in the early stages

[Noreen]

Further comment from the same forum............

"I've downloaded and installed the 30 day trial version of ESS on Windows Vista Ultimate 32-bit. System is an FX-60 with 2 GB RAM.

My system has no perceptible slowdown except a slight delay when Windows Mail opens and closes. Other than that and the quickly responding anti-spam plus a fifteen to twenty second period when the low-key security suite banner is displayed, I can't tell my system has been modified.

Download was only 18 MB. As noted, the interface in simple mode is a delight. It can be toggled to advanced mode for those who wish to see more or desire to customize the configuration. For now, I am running the default setup.

So far, this is what other suites should try to be."

[Simon]

I'm going to let all the beta testers go first too, Noreen.

What, you mean Windows Vista users? 

[Rik]

Definitely them, Simon.

[Ray]

Well so far so good I have been using Nod32 V3 for 2 days now with no problems.

[Rik]

Keep us posted, Ray. I may get brave in a week or so.

[Ray]

Keep us posted, Ray. I may get brave in a week or so.

Will do, Rik, as I say have seen none of the issues mentioned on the Nod forums it just works in the background and seems to be as light on resources as the previous version.

[Simon]

How long does it take to load on start up, Ray?  When I tried the pre-release version on my laptop, the splash screen stayed there for a good 40 seconds, which prohibited any other activity until it had decided to get itself going.  I wasn't sure if this was due to a start up scan, or whether it was just very slow to load.

[Ray]

How long does it take to load on start up, Ray?  When I tried the pre-release version on my laptop, the splash screen stayed there for a good 40 seconds, which prohibited any other activity until it had decided to get itself going.  I wasn't sure if this was due to a start up scan, or whether it was just very slow to load.

Simon, on my desktop machine there doesn't appear to be any noticeable difference in loading time from version 2.7. I must admit I haven't got round to trying it on my laptop yet, though I would expect it to be slower due the lower amount of memory, 512Mb on laptop as compared to desktop with 2Gb.

I am running it on XP Pro.

[mrapoc]

Im using it - it loads quicker!

I'm looooooovin it

Wonder if i can get away with my laptop under the same license...

[Simon]

Apart from the loading time, which, I should mention, was the suite, not the stand alone AV, I couldn't really see any difference to F-Secure, which is also a good suite. 

[sobranie]

How long does it take to load on start up, Ray?  When I tried the pre-release version on my laptop, the splash screen stayed there for a good 40 seconds, which prohibited any other activity until it had decided to get itself going.  I wasn't sure if this was due to a start up scan, or whether it was just very slow to load.

You can disable the splash screen under set up in the user interface. This doesn't affect the prog of course.

[Simon]

Oddly enough, I actually quite like splash screens - but not when they won't go away! 

[Nick AJ]

Just installed the home security version on the 30 day free trial.  I'm already a NOD user and have been using zone alarm which seems to slow the computer a lot, especially at start up.  So far seems pretty good, quite quick, no delay at start up.

Firewall alerts for major programs, but once allowed no other issues.  Have to decide whether to spend extra to update after trial period.

[Rik]

Keep us posted, Nick.

[jupiter]

I'm having a go with Smart Security v3.5.0560.0.

So far great.  The only snag is that it will not add scanned tags to Thunderbird emails.  It will to hotmail emails which I collect via Thunderbird, but not to gmail and idnet addresses via Thunderbird.  I have entered port numbers etc etc.

Mind you, this was the same with earlier versions of NOD32. I don't find it a make or break because Thunderbird's own filtering works well and I have never had a virus or spam problem with email. Gmail itself seems pretty well filtered too.

But it does seem to be time that eset caught up with Thunderbird.

[Rik]

They've always rather targeted MS apps, Jupiter, though why I don't understand. Perhaps their business sales have always been the dominant sector of their turnover?

[Noreen]

NOD32 & ESS V 563 released

[jupiter]

NOD32 & ESS V 563 released

How does this work then Noreen?

I have 'update program components' in the update settings selected, but I don't get updated from version 560?

Maybe only major updates are picked up by earlier versions?

[Rik]

IIRC, Jupiter, it will only update components within a version, not upgrade to a newer version. This has to be done manually, but is free.

[Simon]

I'm having a go with Smart Security v3.5.0560.0.

So far great.  The only snag is that it will not add scanned tags to Thunderbird emails.  It will to hotmail emails which I collect via Thunderbird, but not to gmail and idnet addresses via Thunderbird.  I have entered port numbers etc etc.

I'm pretty sure it does work, because I installed ESET on my laptop, and I only have TBird on there.  The tag was definitely working, but I can't remember in which setting it was now.  Sorry to be unhelpful.  I do remember you had to choose from a drop down menu, and you could choose from tagging all mail, or contaminated mail only, and whether mail was tagged coming in, going out, or both ways.

[jupiter]

IIRC, Jupiter, it will only update components within a version, not upgrade to a newer version. This has to be done manually, but is free.

Thanks, yes. I used my original user/password, downloaded the updated version which overwrote the existing one, retaining all settings.  What eset seem coy about, or I just have not found it, is what changes they have made version to version.

I'm pretty sure it does work, because I installed ESET on my laptop, and I only have TBird on there.  The tag was definitely working, but I can't remember in which setting it was now.  Sorry to be unhelpful.  I do remember you had to choose from a drop down menu, and you could choose from tagging all mail, or contaminated mail only, and whether mail was tagged coming in, going out, or both ways.

A mystery. I have the drop down boxes and have set them. I have 3 ports in use for email cos TB is collected email from idnet, gmail and hotmail on ports 110, 140 and 995.  Still ESET notes that 0 emails have been checked.

Nor have I got the mail files in some unexpected location - the prog files in C:Program files and the data files in C:Docs n settings etc., which is where TB put them.

I feel sure that if Iemail ESET support it will be a long wait just now, as I think they are overwhelmed.

[Rik]

Hve you tried the Wilders forum, Jupiter? Here.

The email I received from Eset said the v2.7 installation should be removed before installing v3, so I wonder if that might have something to do with your problem?

[Simon]

Have you definitely enabled email scanning in the options?  Sorry to ask the obvious, Jupiter, but sometimes easy solutions are missed by looking too deeply, and there are a hell of a lot of configurations on ESET. 

[jupiter]

The email I received from Eset said the v2.7 installation should be removed before installing v3, so I wonder if that might have something to do with your problem?

OK. I didn't do that, but have now reinstalled from scratch.

I am now getting a scanned flag on messages sent from hotmail to idnet address (the idnet account uses port 110); no scanned flag when I send idnet to hotmail (that is using port 25 outgoing) even though I have set eset to scan outgoing messages; and no scanned flag when sending either idnet to gmail or gmail to idnet (gmail has to use port 995 for mail collection)

A fair summary would be that I am confused and I want to go home - oh I am.

[Rik]

I'm confused too, Jupiter.

[Simon]

I'm fairly certain it's to do with those drop down options.  I have to admit, IIRC, I also had trouble getting what I wanted to 'stick', and I think I had to end up selecting and saving the option, then closing and reopening the configurations interface to get it to stay at what I had selected.

[jupiter]

Thanks.  I will not be discouraged and will keep messing. 

[jupiter]

OK.  So I uninstalled Smart Security, purged the registry of hangover entries, reinstalled.

I also, somewhat randomly, ticked additional items in the ESS lists under http protocols and email clients, in case picking up emails from gmail and hotmail involved routes in/out which were not apparent to me.

The result is that now incoming messages sent from gmail to idnet addresses are flagged checked, and messages from hotmail to idnet addresses are flagged checked.

Outgoing messages are still not being flagged checked, though that is a lesser concern.  In short, I'm not sure how, but the situation has been improved!

[Rik]

There are times with computers, Jupiter, that the result matters more than understanding how you achieved it (though I'd make a note of the settings as they stand).

[Noreen]

Another update is now available. Nod 32 3.0.566.0

[jupiter]

Another update is now available. Nod 32 3.0.566.0

Have you found how to discover what changes are being made version to version Noreen?  This would help decide whether to download an updated version.

[Lance]

Normally Jupiter, this minor updates (ie from 3.0.563.0 to 3.0.566.0) would just be minor bug fixes, which they are unlikely to detail. I might be proved wrong though!

[jupiter]

Normally Jupiter, this minor updates (ie from 3.0.563.0 to 3.0.566.0) would just be minor bug fixes, which they are unlikely to detail. I might be proved wrong though!

Thanks - I suspected so, and hence not worth downloading. Though it isn't a hard process as settings seem to be retained when moving version to version.

[Ray]

Normally Jupiter, this minor updates (ie from 3.0.563.0 to 3.0.566.0) would just be minor bug fixes, which they are unlikely to detail. I might be proved wrong though!

Lance, it seems this latest update only fixes some issues with installation therefore not neccessary for most people.

[Lance]

Thanks Ray