free from Virgin

[anz1066]

hooray, i`m finally free from the robbing liars at Virgin.
no doubt i`ll have debt collectors bugging me for the remainder of the bill (contract)

[Rik]

You've completed migration, or got a MAC. Whichever, a karma is in order.

Hopefully, the won't give you too much grief.

[anz1066]

thanks Rik, they didn`t even send me a Mac code. i had to complain to Ofcom.

[Rik]

So did you have to cease and re-provide?

[anz1066]

btw Rik, i know my ping of 61 avg to BBC.co.uk is better than Virgins 250 ms. is this still a little higher than average?

[anz1066]

i migrated to Idnet, phoned Virgin today after waiting 15 minutes. he said the account will end on the 17th of December

[Rik]

It's higher than mine, I tend to average 24ms, with interleaving on.

ping www.bbc.co.uk

Pinging www.bbc.net.uk [212.58.251.203] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 212.58.251.203: bytes=32 time=25ms TTL=250
Reply from 212.58.251.203: bytes=32 time=24ms TTL=250
Reply from 212.58.251.203: bytes=32 time=26ms TTL=250
Reply from 212.58.251.203: bytes=32 time=22ms TTL=250

Ping statistics for 212.58.251.203:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 22ms, Maximum = 26ms, Average = 24ms

Do you know your line state, ie is interleaving on?

[Rik]

i migrated to Idnet, phoned Virgin today after waiting 15 minutes. he said the account will end on the 17th of December

Not too bad then.

[Ann]

One thing I've noticed that all ISPs seem to do is to charge you from say 30th of one month to the 30th of the next so when they have to work out a part of a month, you actually pay for that 30th of the month twice.  I refused to pay for that extra day to Eclipse and got the bill reduced by a few pence.  A few pence extra from everyone soon adds up to a nice extra profit for the company.

[anz1066]

as far as i know interleaving is still on

[Rik]

In my case that adds 4ms, but the average is 20ms, so you still seem a bit high. How stable is your lines (can you post the stats if possible)?

[anz1066]

if you can tell me where to get them from, my medication plays tricks on me

[anz1066]

is this it? the other way Ann is to leave people holding on a premium rate number
DSL Connection   

   Link Information            

Uptime:   0 days, 2:23:25

Modulation:   G.992.1 annex A

Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]:   448 / 8,096

Data Transferred (Sent/Received) [MB/MB]:   6.34 / 59.98

Output Power (Up/Down) [dBm]:   12.0 / 11.5

Line Attenuation (Up/Down) [dB]:   5.0 / 9.0

SN Margin (Up/Down) [dB]:   23.0 / 12.5

Vendor ID (Local/Remote):   TMMB / TSTC

Loss of Framing (Local/Remote):   0 / 0

Loss of Signal (Local/Remote):   0 / 0

Loss of Power (Local/Remote):   0 / 0

Loss of Link (Remote):   0

Error Seconds (Local/Remote):   0 / 0

FEC Errors (Up/Down):   0 / 48

CRC Errors (Up/Down):   0 / 0

HEC Errors (Up/Down):   0 / 0

[Rik]

It depends on the router/modem you use. The most popular ones are listed at Kitz:

http://www.kitz.co.uk/adsl/frogstats.htm

[Rik]

is this it?

Uptime:   0 days, 2:23:25
Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]:   448 / 8,096
Line Attenuation (Up/Down) [dB]:   5.0 / 9.0
SN Margin (Up/Down) [dB]:   23.0 / 12.5

Loss of Framing (Local/Remote):   0 / 0
Loss of Signal (Local/Remote):   0 / 0
Loss of Power (Local/Remote):   0 / 0
Loss of Link (Remote):   0
Error Seconds (Local/Remote):   0 / 0
FEC Errors (Up/Down):   0 / 48
CRC Errors (Up/Down):   0 / 0
HEC Errors (Up/Down):   0 / 0

That's it. You have a low level of errors, so I would talk to IDNet about getting interleaving turned off. With those stats, you should be able to go flat out, 8182 sync, 7150 profile.

I'm jealous. 

[anz1066]

how long does it take to get off? and what about stability. i know interleaving is for error correction

[Ted]

Here's one from North wales, with interleaving on.

212.58.251.203
ping successful: icmp_seq=26 time=52 ms
ping successful: icmp_seq=27 time=52 ms
ping successful: icmp_seq=28 time=58 ms
ping successful: icmp_seq=29 time=52 ms

[Rik]

how long does it take to get off? and what about stability. i know interleaving is for error correction

It's only a few hours, usually, to get it changed. Interleaving is turned on to improve line stability, but in your case I don't think your line should be unstable. It's the error-correction overhead which slows the connection down, but the depth can vary, I'm on the 'lightest' level.

[anz1066]

yours is similar to mine xild, they don`t work at weekends do they?

[Rik]

No, you can log an emergency, but this wouldn't be classed as such. You can always drop them an email, support@idnet.net.

[Inactive]

, they don`t work at weekends do they?

No, but they more than make up for it when they are there.

[anz1066]

thanks peeps, i mean i`m not having any probs as such. i play online at a Dutch server and the ping seems a little high considering Idnet have a carrier there i think

[Rik]

As I say, if you can't call them during the week, drop them an email. On the face of it, there's no reason for you to have interleaving on. Which part of the country are you in?

[anz1066]

i`m in east Scotland

[Rik]

That will slow things a little, but not a huge amount. BT have been doing some work up in Edinburgh which did affect ping times, but that should be over soon (if not already).