Another convert to the 2wire 2700

Den · Dec 11, 2007, 22:03:49

Ann, a 2wire 2700HGV can be bought already converted to run on any network and then it's just a matter of plugging in and entering your details. If a old

like me can do it anybody can and if you are a long way from the exchange then they are worth it. I am about two miles and part of the run is in alloy cable which is the worst type but I still get in excess of 6mb.

Kaiser Bill · Dec 11, 2007, 23:46:07

well, I just fired-up my new one, replacing a Netgear..... but I had a rare old time getting it going - I have no cable comnnection....wireless only - and so far its synching 200kb less than before

Rik · Dec 11, 2007, 23:48:14

This is probably the worst time of day to sync a router in terms of speed. See what your noise margin is doing in the morning. If it's 1 or 2db above target, then re-sync.

What problems did you have with set up?

Kaiser Bill · Dec 12, 2007, 00:20:05

the machine detected a wireless network, but wouldnt link...then I noticed the HGV wasnt showing a wireless light.... I linked them with cat5 (but no phoneline) for a fiddle, & eventually got it going when I changed from public to private, but I have no idea what the initial problem was.... still, its happy now. The netgear got me downloading at 1200kb with a synch at 1632....I was hoping this would bump me over 1750 into the next category...... I'm 4.7km from the exchange as the crow flies, so a lot longer as the line follows the road....maybe 6-7km

Rik · Dec 12, 2007, 00:24:12

I found that, after forcing a factory reset, the router had a number of incorrect settings, eg MTU at 1492 and PPPoE. Once I changed them, everything fell into place, but I did set up via cable...

Kaiser Bill · Dec 12, 2007, 19:52:10

well, I switched off this morning for a re-synch.... and now I've lost the wireless again...no l.e.d etc. I've put back the 834G, which works without complaint - unless I run cat 5, I'm stuck - the power here goes off about 3 times a week in the early hours, so the only alternative is to unplug the HGV, bring it upstairs, fire it up on cat 5, make sure the wireless is okay, & take it back down to the phone point again....& I'm not doing that 3 times a week!

any hints gratefully received

Rik · Dec 13, 2007, 00:07:57

TBH, if you power is that unstable, you might want to think about a UPS for your system. I've lost power to my 2700 without losing the settings, so my hunch would be that the power outage is noisy and is scrambling the router memory. At the very least, try surge suppression.

Kaiser Bill · Dec 13, 2007, 00:24:38

I know what you mean about the power Rik..but if I want to re-synch deliberately??? & the Netgear bats it off without a second glance - I supposed from the posts that the HGVs wireless was superior, but it seems a bit dicky to me - I guess I have a choice now of using homeplug or cat 5/6 for a direct link - I'd like to give the HGV a good run at my long line, so maybe I should shrug off the wireless network problem

Rik · Dec 13, 2007, 00:36:20

Have you tried a normal, ie non-outage induced, re-boot. I'd be interested to know if it retains its settings in those conditions - it should.

Powerplugs are certainly a good alternative to wireless.

Inactive · Dec 13, 2007, 00:39:21

Quote from: Rik on Dec 13, 2007, 00:36:20

Powerplugs are certainly a good alternative to wireless.

I read somewhere that their price is soon to fall dramatically due to newly developed chip.

Rik · Dec 13, 2007, 00:43:43

Usually the day after I've bought them, In.

Kaiser Bill · Dec 13, 2007, 00:44:05

Rik
it wasnt a power outage - it was a deliberate re-boot this morning (to achieve a higher sync as discussed yesterday) that knocked it out - (you remember I mentioned that initial firing up of the wireless was ropey ?) - I guess I went back to square 1 then.... I've put the Netgear back, but havent used a hard connection on the HGV since for a look-see

Rik · Dec 13, 2007, 00:45:59

It's always possible you've got a duff 2700 - do you have any kind of warranty with the supplier?

Inactive · Dec 13, 2007, 00:47:15

Quote from: Rik on Dec 13, 2007, 00:43:43
Usually the day after I've bought them, In.

well I have pre-warned you this time Rik.

Rik · Dec 13, 2007, 00:49:00

True, In, and I thank you. I shall now wait till... Monday?

Kaiser Bill · Dec 13, 2007, 01:18:29

well, I fired it up 2 feet from the computer's aerial....zilch. Hard wired, all the settings are still there...so it loves ethernet, but has a thing against Marconi !

12m of cat 6 and lots of carpet lifting for me ! $:-\$

Rik · Dec 13, 2007, 01:21:33

Could there be anything in your settings which is not correct?

Inactive · Dec 13, 2007, 01:27:37

Quote from: Rik on Dec 13, 2007, 00:49:00
True, In, and I thank you. I shall now wait till... Monday?

Rumoured to be 2nd quarter, 2008.

Rik · Dec 13, 2007, 01:31:43

Ah well, I wasn't in a rush...

Kaiser Bill · Dec 13, 2007, 01:33:34

who knows.... but the router is sitting next to me madly flashing it's red broadband LED (cos the phone wire isn't plugged in)....but no LED at all for the wireless. The only wireless signal I'm getting is the Netgear I'm talking to you with....yesterday, it was the same, & suddenly up popped the green LED! - as I say, I've just beeninto it & the settings are all there as they were yesterday when it worked - and the system settings must be okay, cos this signal is getting to you - so nothing has changed as far as I can see.

everyone who gets an HGV off the net knows in advance its chancy - poisoned or SBC (mine is SBC), and we give it a stab just to play about with some chance of improvement, so I cant moan too much - I know it routes, & the modem works, and as you comment on another thread, wireless is not the most stable way to network.... but its done for me up to now. So I have a choice - Netgear + wireless + not knowing if I could drive my speed up, or the wired alternative - whichever, its another bit of kit mouldering in my bits cupboard!

Rik · Dec 13, 2007, 01:36:22

It does sound like you may have a 'problem child'. Have you done a factory reset?

Kaiser Bill · Dec 13, 2007, 01:50:04

just done it (factory reset)

the wireless re-appeared!

but I only get the option of channels 5, 6 & 7 now

its allllll verrrry odd!

Gary · Dec 13, 2007, 02:41:51

Quote from: Kaiser Bill on Dec 13, 2007, 01:50:04
just done it (factory reset)

the wireless re-appeared!

but I only get the option of channels 5, 6 & 7 now

its allllll verrrry odd!

The wirless light does not light up till you use it on my one

thats the way they are I think mine is not sbc though. and the wireless works fine also since you have the sbc firmware bumping up the wirless output may help, my N95 mobile would not connect on channel 1,2,3 on my one

Kaiser Bill · Dec 13, 2007, 02:48:42

well, I've plugged it in - it synched at 1824 - thats stunning for me. With 63db downstream & a 9db margin...... I reckon that gets me 1.5meg (if I can hold it)..... about 500kb more than the netgear, and 1meg more than I had with my previous ISP

whatever, the sync is 200 better than I've ever managed before with any router, and thats powering-up at 0240hrs - I might get better at 8am ! (I'm not trying that for a few days tho' !)

thanks for hinting at the factory reset Rik - I never considered it even having one til you mentioned it - I'm obliged!

hope it keeps it up, I'm happy tho' ...... no additional wiring needed after all (touch wood)

Lance · Dec 13, 2007, 07:49:23

Let's hope it holds up!

Like Gary, on my BT firmware, the wireless led only lights up when a connection is made to it.