Problem with long threads

Started by Gary, Dec 28, 2007, 09:39:35

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Gary

Has anyone else noticed how slowly this thread now opens?  :-\
Damned, if you do damned if you don't

Ted

Quote from: Killhippie on Dec 28, 2007, 09:39:35
Has anyone else noticed how slowly this thread now opens?  :-\

Yes. I just open the last page now.
Ted
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Gary

Would appear its a know issue when a thread has more than six pages Rik tells me xild  :(
Damned, if you do damned if you don't

Simon

Quote from: Killhippie on Dec 28, 2007, 09:47:37
Would appear its a know issue when a thread has more than six pages Rik tells me xild  :(

Crikey, that would mean sitting for hours waiting for some of the games threads to open!  Haven't noticed any lag myself this morning. 
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Rik

I don't see a huge delay, Simon, only a pause before a blank page or a server 500 error is displayed.
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Rik

Have you clicked on an 'All' link?
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Simon

Quote from: Rik on Dec 28, 2007, 12:14:43
Have you clicked on an 'All' link?

Nope, but have now.  Blank page.    I never use the 'All' link anyway.
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Ann

The 'all' link worked fine for me.  I've never used it before but will do so now as it's useful.

Edit:  okay I take that back.. 12 pages fine, 17 pages blank.. oops.

Rik

If the thread is more than about 6 pages, Ann, you may either get a blank page or a server error. We know the problem exists, we just haven't worked out how to cure it yet. :(
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Ann

I shall experiment to find out exactly where it falls over.  12 pages is good.

Rik

Not here, it's not, Ann. Remind me what browser you use, will you?
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Glenn

Quote from: Inactive on Dec 28, 2007, 12:32:57
If you lot keep adding waffle to this already long thread, it will never open..  ;D


opens just fine here, no delays what so ever
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Simon

It's the 'All' link that seems to be problematic, Glenn.  :)
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Inactive

Quote from: Glenn on Dec 28, 2007, 13:08:28

opens just fine here, no delays what so ever

This thread has been split off from the original Glen. ;D

That is why this opens OK.
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Gary

Quote from: Inactive on Dec 28, 2007, 13:20:11
This thread has been split off from the original Glen. ;D

That is why this opens OK.
Have to sort that out then ;D
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Ann

Quote from: Rik on Dec 28, 2007, 12:32:01
Not here, it's not, Ann. Remind me what browser you use, will you?
IE7 here.

Rik

Thanks. We think we may have the answer now - testing in progress.
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Rik

We think the problem has now been solved, so if anyone continues to encounter problems, please let us know.
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Ann

It's solved here because I no longer get the little 'all' to hit when there's more than 4 pages.  So where's it gone then?

Adam

We worked out that around 4 pages is all the server would manage before giving errors or putting up a blank page, so the limit before the all link is removed was reduced to around 4 pages.
Adam

Ann

So not really solved then.. I think that's hilarious.. ROFL.

Adam

That depends on how you look at it; the feature was not designed to be set as high as it was, therefore the old (high) setting was "broken" so the new setting "solved" the problem of the "broken" setting. >:D ;D
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Gary

Quote from: Adam on Jan 02, 2008, 21:04:52
That depends on how you look at it; the feature was not designed to be set as high as it was, therefore the old (high) setting was "broken" so the new setting "solved" the problem of the "broken" setting. >:D ;D
You would make a great spin doctor Adam   ;) >:D
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Simon

Let's face it, who would want to load a single page with 300 posts on it anyway!
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Gary

Quote from: Simon on Jan 02, 2008, 22:18:47
Let's face it, who would want to load a single page with 300 posts on it anyway!
to true Simon
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Inactive

Quote from: Adam on Jan 02, 2008, 21:04:52
That depends on how you look at it; the feature was not designed to be set as high as it was, therefore the old (high) setting was "broken" so the new setting "solved" the problem of the "broken" setting. >:D ;D

Your surname isn't Blair by chance is it Adam? :hehe: :back:
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Quote from: Ann on Jan 02, 2008, 21:02:00
So not really solved then.. I think that's hilarious.. ROFL.

Oh the problem is solved, Ann. By empirical testing, we established the point at which the server fell over when assembling messages for the 'All' link, and then set the level so that it didn't happen anymore.

Of course, we didn't try to solve the problem of getting the system to display more than 100 posts at a time. ;)
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Inactive

In all seriousness, thanks to those involved with sorting this. ;)
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Rik

It came down to an issue with server memory, which we don't control, In. Because each post in the forum is a database entry, the software had to assemble the complete table of posts in memory when 'All' was selected, before it could display them. With several hundred as the limit, it just choked - hence the blank page, or occasionally, a server error.

The All limit is now set at 100 posts, which should be enough for most purposes. When a thread exceeds that, the All link simply disappears.
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Inactive

" All " sorted then Rik..  ;D

Thanks.
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Ann

You broke it for me.  I used to be able to view many more pages than 4 and now I can't.  But it doesn't matter, was just tickled by the explanation.

Rik

Maybe you had your own dedicated server, Ann?  ;D
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