2700HGV - Why did I bother?

Started by Simon, Jan 31, 2008, 20:47:09

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Den

Just reached 36days without resyncing is this a record for even a 2700HGV?  ;D
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Glenn

I'm on 37 days at the moment, but I have been past 45 before I repowered the router.


Link Retrains:  0  0  0  0:00:00
DSL Training Errors:  0  0  0  0:00:00
Training Timeouts:  0  0  0  0:00:00
Loss of Framing Failures:  0  0  0  0:00:00
Loss of Signal Failures:  0  0  0  0:00:00
Loss of Power Failures:  0  0  0  0:00:00
Loss of Margin Failures:  0  0  0  0:00:00
Cumulative Seconds w/Errors:  32426  296  12  0:02:11
Cumulative Sec. w/Severe Errors:  254  11  0  0:15:07
Corrected Blocks:  4536065  39135  382  0:00:04
Uncorrectable Blocks:  54889  799  17  0:02:11
DSL Unavailable Seconds:  44  0  0  37 days 8:09:08
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Lance

I seem to recall ReD hitting nearly 60 days, but that could be my memory failing me!
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Glenn

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Inactive

Quote from: Simon on Feb 04, 2008, 18:21:46
... and ones that don't work!  :(

I have 3 sitting here to start with...  ;)

Simon I guess my interest in one was pure curiosity, however having borrowed one that actually worked, I have to be blunt and say I was not overly impressed.

As you know, the item is quite large, it has no power off switch at the back and it isn't exactly the most user friendly of routers that I have used.

I prefer my Zyxel that just sits quietly doing the job.
Anything and everything that I post on here is purely my opinion, it ain't going to change the world, you are under no obligation to agree with me, it is purely my expressed opinion.

Sebby

The 2700 isn't for everyone, and even more so if you have a good line. For us users with average lines, the 2700 is great, but I can see why some wouldn't be impressed.

Simon

I have no expectations, good or bad, about the 2700, but until I try one, I'll never know.  If it's cr*p, I can just in back to the Netgear.  Simple!  ;)
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Simon

Right, well I now have a 2Wire up and running.  Took a while to work out what I was doing, but I think I've got there.  I lost a bit of sync by swapping routers a couple of times, but hopefully it will pick up again.

Paul, not sure if this is your one, as two arrived today.  Was yours bubble wrapped with all the cables, or with polystyrene?
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Rik

What are you line stats looking like, Simon?
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Sebby

Quote from: Simon on Feb 06, 2008, 00:23:37
I lost a bit of sync by swapping routers a couple of times, but hopefully it will pick up again.

You shouldn't lose sync by swapping routers, unless the dreaded target SNRM has been pushed up (we'll wait for the stats!). It could just be because it's night, and there is more noise around at night, so you'd expect to sync a bit lower to compensate.

Simon

Quote from: Rik on Feb 06, 2008, 00:24:37
What are you line stats looking like, Simon?

Where do I find them?
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Simon

Oh, is this what you need?

DSL Line (Wire Pair):     Line 1 (inner pair)
Protocol:    G.DMT Annex A
Downstream Rate:    3808 kbps
Upstream Rate:    448 kbps
Channel:    Interleaved
Current Noise Margin:    15.0 dB (Downstream) 18.0 dB (Upstream)
Current Attenuation:    34.7 dB (Downstream) 18.5 dB (Upstream)
Current Output Power:    19.8 dBm (Downstream) 12.1 dBm (Upstream)
DSLAM Vendor Information:    Country: {0xB5} Vendor: {TSTC} Specific: {0x00}
PVC Info:    0/38
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Rik

What Sebby said, Simon, unless you did it 10 times or so. :) I'm currently synching at 3168 with a NM of 9db. In the morning, that NM will rise to 11db because my last re-sync was at night.

Stats are at:

http://192.168.1.254/xslt?PAGE=J42
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Rik

Those are they. Your noise margin has been pushed up to 15db. You're going to need to maintain stable sync for a couple of weeks, then it will reduce by 3db, repeat the process etc. You ought to sync close to 8128.
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Sebby

Yep, your target SNRM has been pushed up to 15dB (or perhaps it was already like this; it's difficult to say). I suspect you'd be able to get almost, or even full sync if this were at its default value of 6dB.

I'm sure you know about the 14 day periods to get a 3dB drop in target SNRM from reading all the threads on the subject, so I'd say just try and leave it sync'd for at least 14 days at a time and hopefully you'll eventually get back down to 6dB, which should give you much better sync.

(Or you could ask IDNet to see if they can get it reset to 6dB straight away!)

psp83

Quote from: Simon on Feb 06, 2008, 00:23:37
Paul, not sure if this is your one, as two arrived today.  Was yours bubble wrapped with all the cables, or with polystyrene?

The one i sent you had loads off bubble wrap and in a brown box with "fragile" on it.

Simon

Yup, this is the one then.  :)  :karmic:
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psp83

Quote from: Sebby on Feb 06, 2008, 00:37:03
(Or you could ask IDNet to see if they can get it reset to 6dB straight away!)

They wouldn't do that for me! i'm waiting for my SNR to drop aswell, currently its stuck at 12 :(

Sebby

It's a case-by-case thing, Paul. I managed to get it done but I believe that was because there had been some work on my exchange. Still, at least yours is dropping, so you'll get there. :)

psp83

Quote from: Simon on Feb 06, 2008, 00:40:25
Yup, this is the one then.  :)  :karmic:

;D glad its working for you, Just hope it likes your line more than it did mine  :laugh:

Simon

It hasn't chucked me off yet, but didn't it work for you for a while, Paul?
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psp83

Quote from: Simon on Feb 06, 2008, 00:46:58
It hasn't chucked me off yet, but didn't it work for you for a while, Paul?
It worked for 2wks, then early on a saturday morning 1am - 8am my line went nuts, Me, IDnet or BT don't know what caused this. IDnet asked me to reconnect the netgear (as it was pre configed by them so better for tests) so i did and to be honest, I was going to change back as it was all setup for me access my computers from work, plus i only wanted to test a 2wire..

Bare in mind, my line has done this before with the netgear i'm using, So i doubt it was caused by the 2wire, Just that everytime BT comes back saying nothing is wrong and then my line is stable for a few months  ::)

Sebby

I know some have had bad experiences, but I can honestly say this is the greatest router I've ever had, and it cost me under a tenner. :lol:

I'm sure you'll get on just fine, Simon. :)

psp83

I think Simon holds the record for lowest cost 2wire now  ;)