A Few Questions About IDnet Please

[Rik]

If it's a correctly wired NTE5, Dev, removing the faceplate disconnects all internal wiring.

[DeViTTo]

If it's a correctly wired NTE5, Dev, removing the faceplate disconnects all internal wiring.

Hmm then theres no point in my getting an extension cable to plug directly into it then damn nevermind.

Thanks Rik have a Karma for all your hard work and putting up with me.

The socket does not have an outlet at its front can I buy them so I could connect directly in leaving the faceplate on? I know I could get one online I dont suppose my local B&Q would have such a thing?

[Rik]

You could always plug a filter into the test socket, Dev, then the faceplate into the filter, with an RJ11 cable running to the router (or just fit a filtered faceplate). ADSL Nation do lengths of Cat5 cable with RJ11 terminations from 2-20m.

[DeViTTo]

You could always plug a filter into the test socket, Dev, then the faceplate into the filter, with an RJ11 cable running to the router (or just fit a filtered faceplate). ADSL Nation do lengths of Cat5 cable with RJ11 terminations from 2-20m.

Thats a good idea do you mean one of the filters with dangle cable so that I can then plug the faceplate back into it and use the modem connection i.e small connector and as you say buy the correct cable online? I persume you mean RJ11 the small transparent connector?

http://www.adslnation.co.uk/products/xte2005.php

One of these do you mean as I could then remove all exsiting filters throughout the house and just have one is that correc?

[Rik]

Yes, yes, yes.

It will be a bit fiddly though, so you might want to get a filtered face plate:

http://www.adslnation.com/products/xte2005.php

one of these cables (choose length to suit):

http://www.adslnation.com/phpapps/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=21&products_id=117

and an IDC tool:

http://www.adslnation.com/phpapps/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=34&products_id=99

(or you can get a disposable one from B&Q etc).

If you don't want to change the faceplate yourself, you might find you need to use two filters in series, with the ADSL side connecting to the first filter.

[DeViTTo]

Yes, yes, yes.

It will be a bit fiddly though, so you might want to get a filtered face plate:

http://www.adslnation.com/products/xte2005.php

one of these cables (choose length to suit):

http://www.adslnation.com/phpapps/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=21&products_id=117

and an IDC tool:

http://www.adslnation.com/phpapps/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=34&products_id=99

(or you can get a disposable one from B&Q etc).

If you don't want to change the faceplate yourself, you might find you need to use two filters in series, with the ADSL side connecting to the first filter.

I think I'll wait to see if things settle down but might go down this route as it will provide the best signal. After all the BT engineer said the house wiring was A OK, but I havent tested it on the main socket and can allways plug my Netgear into the socket if a test is required now. I'll wait and look to this solution once I have found the root of what seems to me a stuck profile. I wish that flaky BT tester would work correctly.

[Sebby]

I'd certainly recommend going down this route, Dev. It's the best way of ensuring that the ADSL signal is as clean as can be, and should give you added stability and higher sync, all being well.

[DeViTTo]

I'd certainly recommend going down this route, Dev. It's the best way of ensuring that the ADSL signal is as clean as can be, and should give you added stability and higher sync, all being well.

Ok I am thinking about doing so just I cant do anything till after weekend anyways ill wait and see if line improves. It is starting to but pings are higher than normal, now running ping plotter. At least I know the fault has been fixed as far as disconnection (well I hope so 5 + no disconnections). The engineer knew there was a fault when IDnet arranged to come out, from running a telephone line service fault routine that replys with text info on the line.

[DeViTTo]

Ok an update.

Well apparently I had some 87 disconnects over the weekend. Now though after phoning support and along with some new drivers for my Killer NIC. I have just had the best smooth in game experiance of all the time I have been playing in over 5 years.

My pings in game are 145-175 where they were 180-240 and higher. It's like playing in a single player game its a but 50 player server.

I only have one issue at the min, which is when someone externally accesses my Qnap FTP and trys to download large files it kills my connection. I havent yet worked out if its the ADSL modem Cable Modem thats causing it, but i'm not about to disturb anything at the min.

I really hope it stays this way, because then I can really say i'm in internet heaven. Thanks to Tim and James  and not forgetting Rik and Seb and all of you. I'm crossing my fingers it stays like this.

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

Tracing route to www.bbc.net.uk [212.58.253.74]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    15 ms    16 ms    25 ms  telehouse-gw2-msdp.idnet.net [212.69.63.51]
  2    15 ms    15 ms    16 ms  telehouse-gw3-gi0-1-400.idnet.net [212.69.63.243
]
  3    16 ms    16 ms    17 ms  rt-lonap-b.thdo.bbc.co.uk [193.203.5.91]
  4    16 ms    16 ms    15 ms  212.58.238.133
  5    19 ms    17 ms    18 ms  212.58.239.222
  6    18 ms    17 ms    17 ms  www5.cwwtf.bbc.co.uk [212.58.253.74]

Trace complete.

tracert 74.53.34.194

Tracing route to c2.22.354a.static.theplanet.com [74.53.34.194]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    16 ms    15 ms    14 ms  telehouse-gw2-msdp.idnet.net [212.69.63.51]
  2    15 ms    15 ms    16 ms  telehouse-gw3-gi0-1-400.idnet.net [212.69.63.243
]
  3    19 ms    15 ms    15 ms  mfnx-gw-a.lonap.net [193.203.5.16]
  4   106 ms    89 ms    87 ms  so-0-1-0.mpr1.dca2.us.above.net [64.125.27.57]
  5   115 ms   137 ms   117 ms  so-1-0-0.mpr3.iah1.us.above.net [64.125.29.37]
  6   119 ms   119 ms   119 ms  so-1-1-0.mpr1.dfw2.us.above.net [64.125.26.129]

  7   119 ms   119 ms   123 ms  64.124.79.77.theplanet.com [64.124.79.77]
  8   124 ms   124 ms   123 ms  te7-1.dsr01.dllstx3.theplanet.com [70.87.253.2]

  9   123 ms   124 ms   126 ms  7e.fd.5746.static.theplanet.com [70.87.253.126]

10   124 ms   144 ms   122 ms  po1.car05.dllstx6.theplanet.com [12.96.160.7]
11   123 ms   123 ms   124 ms  c2.22.354a.static.theplanet.com [74.53.34.194]

Trace complete.

[Rik]

Looking good, Dev, hopefully those disconnects are now behind you and your profile will recover.

[DeViTTo]

Hi Rik I hope so too, this is too good to be true at the min my KIller NIC is actually performing well as it should given the cost.

[Rik]

Have you managed a BT test?

[DeViTTo]

Have you managed a BT test?

No I know where my profile is at I think around 4000, the trouble is I have the card set for UDP if I switch now it loses con on the Lan for a while I will do it in a few days time. Its not really speed I want I just want low latency stable connection thats all. I'm happy if I do get more speed, but does the modem have to rescync to get faster or can it change on the fly as it were without disconnecting?

[Rik]

It has to re-sync, noise will force it to re-sync downwards if it needs to, but it won't upwards - you'll just see a bigger noise margin.

[DeViTTo]

I did it anyways in Game mode,

Test1 comprises of Best Effort Test:  -provides background information.
    IP profile for your line is - 3500 kbps
    DSL connection rate: 832 kbps(UP-STREAM)  4448 kbps(DOWN-STREAM)
    Actual IP throughput achieved during the test was - 3275 kbps

If you wish to discuss these results please contact your ISP.

If you are experiencing problems with specific applications, servers or websites please contact your ISP for assistance.

Your test has completed please close this window to exit the performance tester.

 

[Rik]

Profile is OK for sync speed, throughput is OK for profile. What's your noise margin?

[DeViTTo]

Profile is OK for sync speed, throughput is OK for profile. What's your noise margin?

I tried to find out by enabling the other network card lost internal conection I can tell you its about between 9db-10db up and downstream.

Looking good. 

[Rik]

So, probably a target margin of 9db. That will give you greater stability at a cost of about 500k.

[Lance]

I only have one issue at the min, which is when someone externally accesses my Qnap FTP and trys to download large files it kills my connection. I havent yet worked out if its the ADSL modem Cable Modem thats causing it, but i'm not about to disturb anything at the min.

I'd have thought that this is your connection becoming saturated on the upstream.

Glad your connection is looking good!

[DeViTTo]

I'd have thought that this is your connection becoming saturated on the upstream.

Glad your connection is looking good!

I don't think its that Lance as it is doing it when I stream music to my work, it just kills the connection although its seems stable the other way.

It could be a number of things that has changed recently the Qnap software has been changed, but a friends has the same config, but on cable connection only, he does not have the problem. It could be the frimware of the dlink although again my friend ha the new one as well.

If all else faisl I will disable the Qnap for now, but I would like to find a solution, it was streaming fairly steadily on the old unstable connection, I dont think it was dropping out because f the qnap.

Nevermind I just want the same connection as I had last night I'll sacrifice the qnap functions to the external network and have it work internally only for now, see if all thing stabilise. I might then setup ftp on my PC and see if it has the same affect of disconnecting my router if it does then I will look into this issue further.