Looking to mover to Idnet, interim e-mail accounts

john7 · Feb 03, 2008, 20:14:33

We have been suffering appalling eclipse speeds fluctuating between over 3000k to well below 600k.with the BT speed over 4000k.
We have a lot of people who have our e-mail address's because of being involved in local voluntary organisations. My wife is presently Chair of one and program organiser for another. So we have to ensure as many people and organisations make changes to contact information. To do this we need an overlap of a moth or more to catch those who haven't corrected addresses.
I noticed Idnet can provide e-mail addresses, can be used and be transferred to a full Inet account when one is opened when migrating?

JB · Feb 03, 2008, 20:33:21

Quote from: john7 on Feb 03, 2008, 20:14:33
I noticed Idnet can provide e-mail addresses, can be used and be transferred to a full Inet account when one is opened when migrating?

Hi John,

I your circumstances I would really recommend getting yourself a domain name from someone like www.123reg.co.uk. There are many other companies offering similar services. They are not expensive. I pay under £10 for two years for my .co.uk domain names which include email forwarding.

You can choose your own domain name, as long as it hasn't been previously bagged, and you will never have the same problem again if you need to change ISP. Mail to the email addresses which form part of the domain name can be forwarded to the incoming mailboxes of any ISP. Thus if you change ISP, you simply change the email redirection to the new one. Everyone has your 'permanent' email address and they are quite oblivious to the fact that you have changed Internet provider.

To answer your question. After signing up with IDNet your email boxes can be set up and activated immediately, before the ADSL connection goes live. The overlap period depends on how quickly IDNet can migrate you away from your old provider. In my case it was just inder three days.

Hope that helps.

Regards,

JB.

Simon · Feb 03, 2008, 21:03:17

Hi John, and

have a welcome karma!

Once you've signed up, you could ask IDNet to delay the migration date, in order to give you more of an overlap period. Call them immediately though, as often they work very quickly! It might be easier if you rang them to sign up, then you could discuss things with them, but I think there is also a place in the online registration form, where you can specify instructions such as that. As JB said, your IDNet email account will be opened and accessible as soon as you sign up, but you would still need to use your existing ISP's outgoing (SMTP) server to send emails, until the migration is complete. You wouldn't have more than a month's overlap though, as the MAC code is only valid for 30 days, so you have to migrate within that timescale, then it would depend on how long your existing ISP takes to close down your email account(s).

Lance · Feb 03, 2008, 22:44:01

Hi john, welcome to the forum.

It might be worth you calling support and explaining your situation, as they might be kind enough to set you up with an email address even before you have signed up.

Sebby · Feb 03, 2008, 22:47:51

Welcome, John.

Given your situation, I think - if possible - it's worth you registering a domain and buying an email service so that if you want to move ISP in future you don't have this issue. Someone like 1&1 would do you just fine and is very cheap (under £1 per month).

If you're not keen on that router, as Lance suggested, speak to IDNet as they may well be able to sort you with an email account in the interim; they are very accommodating like that.

Rik · Feb 03, 2008, 23:45:39

HI John and welcome to the forum, have a karma.

Basically, what everyone else said.

However, as an alternative to a domain, you could use a GMail address (or several), or you could register with an organisation like Mail.com, they have a variety of less 'obviously free' addresses, though you have to access by webmail unless you pay for POP or forwarding.

The domain might prove the cheapest and best route in the long term.

bob_s · Feb 04, 2008, 11:25:51

The registered domain name is a good idea, and also gives you something a little more personal.

But do not use 123reg

They have as many bad reports about them as pipex and tiscalli. After all they are owned by pipex and as such now owned by tiscalli.

I cant recommend a good one, but I know 123 is a bad one.
Just some info on 123 from following external forum
http://www.webuser.co.uk/forums/postlist.php/Cat/0/Board/design

Just for info I just used googlemail for the move.

Ray · Feb 04, 2008, 12:08:32

Quote from: bob_s on Feb 04, 2008, 11:25:51
The registered domain name is a good idea, and also gives you something a little more personal.

But do not use 123reg

They have as many bad reports about them as pipex and tiscalli. After all they are owned by pipex and as such now owned by tiscalli.

I cant recommend a good one, but I know 123 is a bad one.
Just some info on 123 from following external forum
http://www.webuser.co.uk/forums/postlist.php/Cat/0/Board/design

Just for info I just used googlemail for the move.

Must agree with you, Bob, I moved my 2 domains from 123reg in March last year because they were so unreliable and the support was poor.

I now use 34sp.com and they may not be the cheapest but I have found that they provide a good service and the support seems to be good.

Azazel · Feb 04, 2008, 12:17:57

I use Fasthosts and have never had a problem other than the well publicised password issues

Rik · Feb 04, 2008, 12:40:26

Purple Cloud and 1&1 are two other possibilities.

john7 · Feb 04, 2008, 13:03:49

Thanks for all the helpfull replys, we wil have to sort out what to do!

Ann · Feb 04, 2008, 13:23:42

Agree about 123-reg. The email service was dreadful. I moved to purplecloud which are a bit like IDNet in that they are a very small company and are very helpful.

JB · Feb 04, 2008, 14:10:37

Quote from: bob_s on Feb 04, 2008, 11:25:51
The registered domain name is a good idea, and also gives you something a little more personal.

But do not use 123reg

They have as many bad reports about them as pipex and tiscalli. After all they are owned by pipex and as such now owned by tiscalli.

Glad you posted this information after my suggesting 123reg to the OP.

So far I am not aware of any problems with my email forwarding but it is a useful insight. When I joined, they were part of Webfusion but it looks like their masters have changed for the worse.

Do you or anyone on the thread know the procedure for moving a domain name away from them? A 'heads up' would be useful.

Many thanks,

JB.

Ann · Feb 04, 2008, 15:26:12

If you go somewhere like the purplecloud website http://www.purplecloud.com/home/ it explains what you have to do. Any questions email them and ask them. I did and got a reply very quickly. Any other hosting website will explain it too.

JB · Feb 04, 2008, 15:33:22

Many thanks for the reply Ann.

Just had a browse and it looks like just single address email forwarding comes with domain registration. I think I would need to add an extra email package for multiple addressees. Just doing the sums.

Regards,

JB.

colirv · Feb 04, 2008, 18:28:44

Yes you would. I used the £5 package (5 mailboxes) for a while before moving to full hosting with them. Good reliable service.

john7 · Feb 04, 2008, 19:55:38

Again thanks for help, every things on hold for now, we spent most of the day helpling a frend whoes wife is in A&E. Helping out is going to take priority over moving ISP!

When its over we will lok at this again.

Simon · Feb 04, 2008, 21:25:48

Best wishes John, hope to see you again soon.