Latency

buffy · Feb 05, 2008, 13:26:25

Good day,

I am looking at brining my clan [FUK] to a low latency ISP.
I was wondering if you would be good enough to run some tracerts to the following addresses and post them below.

www.bbc.co.uk
193.33.187.75
213.208.119.130

Thanks for you time.
Please run them from a IDnet connection, if you can list the connection package as well that would really help me decide what is best for my team.

Rik · Feb 05, 2008, 14:04:36

Hi Buffy

Welcome to the forum, have a karma.

I'm on Home Lite, with interleaving on. You should do better by 10ms or so if you don't have interleaving. Only the Home SuperMax package should show any variation, as all the others are running on the same underlying BT product.

tracert www.bbc.co.uk

Tracing route to www.bbc.net.uk [212.58.253.70]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms 1 ms <1 ms home [192.168.1.254]
2 25 ms 76 ms 25 ms telehouse-gw2.idnet.net [212.69.63.55]
3 27 ms 25 ms 25 ms telehouse-gw3-gi0-1-400.idnet.net [212.69.63.243]
4 26 ms 25 ms 25 ms rt-lonap-b.thdo.bbc.co.uk [193.203.5.91]
5 24 ms 25 ms 23 ms 212.58.238.133
6 27 ms 25 ms 25 ms 212.58.239.222
7 27 ms 25 ms 27 ms www1.cwwtf.bbc.co.uk [212.58.253.70]

Trace complete.

tracert 193.33.187.75

Tracing route to 193.33.187.75 over a maximum of 30 hops

1 <1 ms 1 ms <1 ms home [192.168.1.254]
2 138 ms 23 ms 25 ms telehouse-gw2.idnet.net [212.69.63.55]
3 23 ms 23 ms 23 ms telehouse-gw3-gi0-1-400.idnet.net [212.69.63.243]
4 30 ms 29 ms 23 ms 193.203.5.197
5 43 ms 41 ms 49 ms ge-0-0-0-1084.rt0.lon1.goscomb.net [77.75.104.230]
6 23 ms 25 ms 25 ms ge-0-635.rt1.the.synergyworks.co.uk [77.75.104.69]
7 23 ms 27 ms 25 ms ge-0-635.rt2.the.synergyworks.co.uk [77.75.104.70]
8 23 ms 25 ms 23 ms 193.33.187.75

tracert 213.208.119.130

Tracing route to 213.208.119.130 over a maximum of 30 hops

1 <1 ms 1 ms <1 ms home [192.168.1.254]
2 25 ms 25 ms 23 ms telehouse-gw2.idnet.net [212.69.63.55]
3 23 ms 25 ms 25 ms telehouse-gw3-gi0-1-400.idnet.net [212.69.63.243]
4 23 ms 25 ms 31 ms g3-35-501.cr05.hx2.bb.pipex.net [193.203.5.14]
5 61 ms 47 ms 53 ms v3952.cr05.tn5.bb.pipex.net [62.72.137.9]
6 26 ms 25 ms 23 ms g2-48-5.ar01.tn5.bb.pipex.net [62.72.140.14]
7 26 ms 25 ms 23 ms ge-0-0-0-3801.jolt-gw.cust.pipex.net [212.241.241.14]
8 26 ms 27 ms 25 ms 213.208.119.130

Trace complete.

buffy · Feb 05, 2008, 14:12:08

Thanks very much for your help latencys are looking good.
Would love some more examples thanks again in advance.

Rik · Feb 05, 2008, 14:23:20

I'll move this over to Help, more people will see it there.

psp83 · Feb 05, 2008, 14:47:35

Heres a ping result,

PING 193.33.187.75 (193.33.187.75): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 193.33.187.75: icmp_seq=0 ttl=59 time=10.0 ms
64 bytes from 193.33.187.75: icmp_seq=1 ttl=59 time=10.0 ms
64 bytes from 193.33.187.75: icmp_seq=2 ttl=59 time=10.0 ms
64 bytes from 193.33.187.75: icmp_seq=3 ttl=59 time=10.0 ms

--- 193.33.187.75 ping statistics ---
4 packets transmitted, 4 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max = 10.0/10.0/10.0 ms

PING 213.208.119.130 (213.208.119.130): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 213.208.119.130: icmp_seq=0 ttl=123 time=20.0 ms
64 bytes from 213.208.119.130: icmp_seq=1 ttl=123 time=10.0 ms
64 bytes from 213.208.119.130: icmp_seq=2 ttl=123 time=10.0 ms
64 bytes from 213.208.119.130: icmp_seq=3 ttl=123 time=10.0 ms

--- 213.208.119.130 ping statistics ---
4 packets transmitted, 4 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max = 10.0/12.5/20.0 ms

Rik · Feb 05, 2008, 15:34:15

Here's a long-term ping to the BBC...

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Rik · Feb 05, 2008, 16:40:52

And one to 193.33.187.75

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Simon · Feb 05, 2008, 17:47:46

Hi Buffy, and

Tracing route to www.bbc.net.uk [212.58.251.206]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms <1 ms <1 ms www.routerlogin.com [192.168.0.1]
2 49 ms 44 ms 50 ms telehouse-gw2-msdp.idnet.net [212.69.63.51]
3 46 ms 42 ms 42 ms telehouse-gw3-gi0-1-400.idnet.net [212.69.63.243]
4 56 ms 48 ms 46 ms rt-lonap-b.thdo.bbc.co.uk [193.203.5.91]
5 44 ms 49 ms 51 ms 212.58.238.133
6 51 ms 56 ms 50 ms 212.58.239.58
7 58 ms 57 ms 61 ms www4.telhc.bbc.co.uk [212.58.251.206]

Trace complete.

Tracing route to 193.33.187.75 over a maximum of 30 hops

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms www.routerlogin.com [192.168.0.1]
2 46 ms 43 ms 43 ms telehouse-gw2-msdp.idnet.net [212.69.63.51]
3 53 ms 55 ms 47 ms telehouse-gw3-gi0-1-400.idnet.net [212.69.63.243]
4 44 ms 42 ms 42 ms 193.203.5.197
5 63 ms 73 ms 75 ms ge-0-0-0-1084.rt0.lon1.goscomb.net [77.75.104.230]
6 58 ms 54 ms 46 ms ge-0-635.rt1.the.synergyworks.co.uk [77.75.104.69]
7 49 ms 49 ms 45 ms ge-0-635.rt2.the.synergyworks.co.uk [77.75.104.70]
8 44 ms 43 ms 55 ms 193.33.187.75

Trace complete.

Tracing route to 213.208.119.130 over a maximum of 30 hops

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms www.routerlogin.com [192.168.0.1]
2 46 ms 49 ms 48 ms telehouse-gw2-msdp.idnet.net [212.69.63.51]
3 70 ms 72 ms 66 ms telehouse-gw3-gi0-1-400.idnet.net [212.69.63.243]
4 57 ms 61 ms 57 ms g3-35-501.cr05.hx2.bb.pipex.net [193.203.5.14]
5 44 ms 44 ms 42 ms v3953.cr05.tn5.bb.pipex.net [62.72.137.29]
6 60 ms 65 ms 65 ms g1-1-6.ar01.tn5.bb.pipex.net [62.72.140.142]
7 46 ms 45 ms 45 ms ge-0-0-0-3801.jolt-gw.cust.pipex.net [212.241.241.14]
8 64 ms 51 ms 46 ms 213.208.119.130

Trace complete.

Hope that helps!

Rik · Feb 05, 2008, 18:08:31

Those pings seem a bit high, Simon?

OK, last graph of the day, to 213.208.119.130:

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psp83 · Feb 05, 2008, 18:19:02

heres trace routes.

Tracing route to 193.33.187.75 over a maximum of 30 hops

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.1
2 14 ms 15 ms 15 ms telehouse-gw2.idnet.net [212.69.63.55]
3 18 ms 15 ms 15 ms telehouse-gw3-gi0-1-400.idnet.net [212.69.63.243]
4 15 ms 15 ms 15 ms 193.203.5.197
5 46 ms 50 ms 77 ms ge-0-0-0-1084.rt0.lon1.goscomb.net [77.75.104.230]
6 19 ms 20 ms 16 ms ge-0-635.rt1.the.synergyworks.co.uk [77.75.104.69]
7 16 ms 16 ms 17 ms ge-0-635.rt2.the.synergyworks.co.uk [77.75.104.70]
8 18 ms 16 ms 16 ms 193.33.187.75

Trace complete.

Tracing route to 213.208.119.130 over a maximum of 30 hops

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.1
2 16 ms 16 ms 15 ms telehouse-gw2.idnet.net [212.69.63.55]
3 15 ms 16 ms 15 ms telehouse-gw3-gi0-1-400.idnet.net [212.69.63.243]
4 16 ms 16 ms 16 ms g3-35-501.cr05.hx2.bb.pipex.net [193.203.5.14]
5 16 ms 15 ms 14 ms v3952.cr05.tn5.bb.pipex.net [62.72.137.9]
6 15 ms 16 ms 18 ms g2-48-5.ar01.tn5.bb.pipex.net [62.72.140.14]
7 15 ms 15 ms 15 ms ge-0-0-0-3801.jolt-gw.cust.pipex.net [212.241.241.14]
8 16 ms 15 ms 15 ms 213.208.119.130

Trace complete.

Si · Feb 05, 2008, 19:09:57

Here's mine too, Home Max....

Pinging www.bbc.net.uk [212.58.227.75] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 212.58.227.75: bytes=32 time=23ms TTL=248
Reply from 212.58.227.75: bytes=32 time=23ms TTL=248
Reply from 212.58.227.75: bytes=32 time=23ms TTL=248
Reply from 212.58.227.75: bytes=32 time=23ms TTL=248

Ping statistics for 212.58.227.75:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 23ms, Maximum = 23ms, Average = 23ms

Tracing route to 193.33.187.75 over a maximum of 30 hops

1 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 192.168.1.1
2 123 ms 24 ms 23 ms telehouse-gw2-msdp.idnet.net [212.69.63.51]
3 24 ms 25 ms 24 ms telehouse-gw3-gi0-1-400.idnet.net [212.69.63.243]
4 23 ms 25 ms 24 ms 193.203.5.197
5 47 ms 40 ms 59 ms ge-0-0-0-1084.rt0.lon1.goscomb.net [77.75.104.230]
6 26 ms 38 ms 39 ms ge-0-635.rt1.the.synergyworks.co.uk [77.75.104.69]
7 25 ms 32 ms 25 ms ge-0-635.rt2.the.synergyworks.co.uk [77.75.104.70]
8 35 ms 25 ms 32 ms 193.33.187.75
Trace complete.

Tracing route to 213.208.119.130 over a maximum of 30 hops

1 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 192.168.1.1
2 39 ms 25 ms 24 ms telehouse-gw2-msdp.idnet.net [212.69.63.51]
3 24 ms 25 ms 25 ms telehouse-gw3-gi0-1-400.idnet.net [212.69.63.243]
4 24 ms 25 ms 24 ms g3-35-501.cr05.hx2.bb.pipex.net [193.203.5.14]
5 24 ms 24 ms 26 ms v3953.cr05.tn5.bb.pipex.net [62.72.137.29]
6 24 ms 24 ms 24 ms g1-1-6.ar01.tn5.bb.pipex.net [62.72.140.142]
7 24 ms 24 ms 25 ms ge-0-0-0-3801.jolt-gw.cust.pipex.net [212.241.241.14]
8 25 ms 24 ms 24 ms 213.208.119.130

Trace complete.

Lance · Feb 05, 2008, 19:50:44

Hi Buffy, welcome to the forum.

C:\Users\Lance>tracert bbc.co.uk

Tracing route to bbc.co.uk [212.58.224.131]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 3 ms 1 ms 1 ms home [192.168.1.254]
2 61 ms 20 ms 21 ms telehouse-gw2.idnet.net [212.69.63.55]
3 21 ms 20 ms 21 ms telehouse-gw3-gi0-1-400.idnet.net [212.69.63.243
]
4 20 ms 22 ms 24 ms rt-lonap-b.thdo.bbc.co.uk [193.203.5.91]
5 21 ms 21 ms 20 ms 212.58.238.133
6 22 ms 23 ms 20 ms rdirwww-vip.thdo.bbc.co.uk [212.58.224.131]

Trace complete.

C:\Users\Lance>tracert 193.33.187.75

Tracing route to 193.33.187.75 over a maximum of 30 hops

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms home [192.168.1.254]
2 38 ms 25 ms 21 ms telehouse-gw2.idnet.net [212.69.63.55]
3 24 ms 23 ms 22 ms telehouse-gw3-gi0-1-400.idnet.net [212.69.63.243
]
4 22 ms 22 ms 22 ms 193.203.5.197
5 34 ms 38 ms 48 ms ge-0-0-0-1084.rt0.lon1.goscomb.net [77.75.104.23
0]
6 28 ms 22 ms 25 ms ge-0-635.rt1.the.synergyworks.co.uk [77.75.104.6
9]
7 25 ms 21 ms 23 ms ge-0-635.rt2.the.synergyworks.co.uk [77.75.104.7
0]
8 23 ms 20 ms 22 ms 193.33.187.75

Trace complete.

C:\Users\Lance>tracert 213.208.119.130

Tracing route to 213.208.119.130 over a maximum of 30 hops

1 2 ms 2 ms 1 ms home [192.168.1.254]
2 22 ms 23 ms 21 ms telehouse-gw2.idnet.net [212.69.63.55]
3 25 ms 24 ms 26 ms telehouse-gw3-gi0-1-400.idnet.net [212.69.63.243
]
4 42 ms 20 ms 23 ms g3-35-501.cr05.hx2.bb.pipex.net [193.203.5.14]
5 21 ms 21 ms 22 ms v3952.cr05.tn5.bb.pipex.net [62.72.137.9]
6 21 ms 21 ms 23 ms g2-48-5.ar01.tn5.bb.pipex.net [62.72.140.14]
7 20 ms 20 ms 26 ms ge-0-0-0-3801.jolt-gw.cust.pipex.net [212.241.24
1.14]
8 20 ms 21 ms 21 ms 213.208.119.130

Trace complete.

I'm on home Max. If you are really serious about your gaming, you'll go onto the supermax package, as the packets on this package should take priority over the BT network.

Simon · Feb 05, 2008, 21:53:55

Quote from: Rik on Feb 05, 2008, 18:08:31
Those pings seem a bit high, Simon?

I thought that as well, Rik. Time of day, perhaps? Anyway, now I have my (still unboxed) 2nd 2700 to try out (thanks Paul

), things may well improve.

Lance · Feb 05, 2008, 22:43:10

Do you know what the RAG status of your exchange is, Simon. If amber or red, it could explain your pings.

Simon · Feb 06, 2008, 00:28:01

No, it's definitely green Just done it again with the 2Wire:

Tracing route to www.bbc.net.uk [212.58.227.77]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 1 ms <1 ms home [192.168.1.1]
2 34 ms 33 ms 31 ms telehouse-gw2-msdp.idnet.net [212.69.63.51]
3 290 ms 94 ms 37 ms telehouse-gw3-gi0-1-400.idnet.net [212.69.63.243]
4 86 ms 98 ms 35 ms rt-lonap-b.thdo.bbc.co.uk [193.203.5.91]
5 37 ms 35 ms 31 ms 212.58.238.149
6 34 ms 35 ms 35 ms 212.58.238.157
7 31 ms 33 ms 33 ms www7.rbsov.bbc.co.uk [212.58.227.77]

Trace complete.

Tracing route to 193.33.187.75 over a maximum of 30 hops

1 1 ms 1 ms <1 ms home [192.168.1.1]
2 34 ms 41 ms 31 ms telehouse-gw2-msdp.idnet.net [212.69.63.51]
3 33 ms 33 ms 31 ms telehouse-gw3-gi0-1-400.idnet.net [212.69.63.243]
4 34 ms 33 ms 35 ms 193.203.5.197
5 67 ms 41 ms 60 ms ge-0-0-0-1084.rt0.lon1.goscomb.net [77.75.104.230]
6 35 ms 35 ms 37 ms ge-0-635.rt1.the.synergyworks.co.uk [77.75.104.69]
7 35 ms 33 ms 33 ms ge-0-635.rt2.the.synergyworks.co.uk [77.75.104.70]
8 36 ms 33 ms 33 ms 193.33.187.75

Trace complete.

Tracing route to 213.208.119.130 over a maximum of 30 hops

1 1 ms 1 ms <1 ms home [192.168.1.1]
2 33 ms 33 ms 31 ms telehouse-gw2-msdp.idnet.net [212.69.63.51]
3 34 ms 33 ms 33 ms telehouse-gw3-gi0-1-400.idnet.net [212.69.63.243]
4 34 ms 35 ms 33 ms g3-35-501.cr05.hx2.bb.pipex.net [193.203.5.14]
5 34 ms 33 ms 35 ms v3953.cr05.tn5.bb.pipex.net [62.72.137.29]
6 50 ms 46 ms 37 ms g1-1-6.ar01.tn5.bb.pipex.net [62.72.140.142]
7 32 ms 33 ms 33 ms ge-0-0-0-3801.jolt-gw.cust.pipex.net [212.241.241.14]
8 34 ms 33 ms 35 ms 213.208.119.130

Trace complete.

Rik · Feb 06, 2008, 00:30:59

That's a lot better, Simon. It would be interesting how they look at the same time tomorrow.

Phil123 · Feb 06, 2008, 07:54:35

I'm on the home super max package with interleaving off:

Pinging www.bbc.net.uk [212.58.251.201] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 212.58.251.201: bytes=32 time=17ms TTL=249
Reply from 212.58.251.201: bytes=32 time=18ms TTL=249
Reply from 212.58.251.201: bytes=32 time=17ms TTL=249
Reply from 212.58.251.201: bytes=32 time=17ms TTL=249

Ping statistics for 212.58.251.201:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 17ms, Maximum = 18ms, Average = 17ms

Pinging 193.33.187.75 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 193.33.187.75: bytes=32 time=17ms TTL=58
Reply from 193.33.187.75: bytes=32 time=17ms TTL=58
Reply from 193.33.187.75: bytes=32 time=17ms TTL=58
Reply from 193.33.187.75: bytes=32 time=17ms TTL=58

Ping statistics for 193.33.187.75:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 17ms, Maximum = 17ms, Average = 17ms

Pinging 213.208.119.130 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 213.208.119.130: bytes=32 time=20ms TTL=122
Reply from 213.208.119.130: bytes=32 time=18ms TTL=122
Reply from 213.208.119.130: bytes=32 time=17ms TTL=122
Reply from 213.208.119.130: bytes=32 time=20ms TTL=122

Ping statistics for 213.208.119.130:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 17ms, Maximum = 20ms, Average = 18ms

Tracing route to www.bbc.net.uk [212.58.251.201]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms my.router [192.168.1.1]
2 17 ms 17 ms 18 ms telehouse-gw2-msdp.idnet.net [212.69.63.51]
3 17 ms 17 ms 17 ms telehouse-gw3-gi0-1-400.idnet.net [212.69.63.243
]
4 18 ms 18 ms 18 ms rt-lonap-b.thdo.bbc.co.uk [193.203.5.91]
5 17 ms 17 ms 18 ms 212.58.238.133
6 18 ms 17 ms 18 ms 212.58.239.58
7 18 ms 18 ms 18 ms www1.telhc.bbc.co.uk [212.58.251.201]
Trace complete.

Tracing route to 193.33.187.75 over a maximum of 30 hops

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms my.router [192.168.1.1]
2 17 ms 17 ms 17 ms telehouse-gw2-msdp.idnet.net [212.69.63.51]
3 17 ms 25 ms 18 ms telehouse-gw3-gi0-1-400.idnet.net [212.69.63.243
]
4 18 ms 17 ms 17 ms 193.203.5.197
5 38 ms 29 ms 39 ms ge-0-0-0-1084.rt0.lon1.goscomb.net [77.75.104.23
0]
6 27 ms 20 ms 18 ms ge-0-635.rt1.the.synergyworks.co.uk [77.75.104.6
9]
7 18 ms 18 ms 18 ms ge-0-635.rt2.the.synergyworks.co.uk [77.75.104.7
0]
8 18 ms 19 ms 18 ms 193.33.187.75
Trace complete.

Tracing route to 213.208.119.130 over a maximum of 30 hops

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms my.router [192.168.1.1]
2 17 ms 17 ms 17 ms telehouse-gw2-msdp.idnet.net [212.69.63.51]
3 17 ms 17 ms 17 ms telehouse-gw3-gi0-1-400.idnet.net [212.69.63.243
]
4 35 ms 55 ms 51 ms g3-35-501.cr05.hx2.bb.pipex.net [193.203.5.14]
5 18 ms 17 ms 18 ms v3953.cr05.tn5.bb.pipex.net [62.72.137.29]
6 18 ms 18 ms 17 ms g1-1-6.ar01.tn5.bb.pipex.net [62.72.140.142]
7 18 ms 18 ms 17 ms ge-0-0-0-3801.jolt-gw.cust.pipex.net [212.241.24
1.14]
8 17 ms 17 ms 19 ms 213.208.119.130
Trace complete.

buffy · Feb 11, 2008, 12:05:10

Thanks ever so much for all your help.
On the whole the pings look very good indeed.
I am now very interested in bringing the whole team over.
As you can imagine this wont be as simple as said as Mum's and Dad's of the team members get the final say as its there house

Oh well off to fight I got... I mean work.

Rik · Feb 11, 2008, 12:06:35

It's worth remembering that if you sign up this month, you get the first month free.

shazzy · Feb 11, 2008, 12:10:26

Point the mums and dads over to the forum. As a mum myself, I can assure you they will be pleasantly surprised at the level of help and maturity over here.

Rik · Feb 11, 2008, 12:13:16

Maturity, Shazzy? We must be slipping.