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Started by talos2, Feb 09, 2008, 18:40:38

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Rik

Good point. I was also thinking about interference from a nearby router, but again it should affect everything. So that leaves something on the machines as a possibility.
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Sebby

Indeed, Rik. This seems quite specific to the IDNet login page (or perhaps pages that use encryption). That points to a browser issue, but then it's happening on all PCs, so I can't imagine it's that. I'm stumped.  ???

Inactive

Try a different browser????  ;)
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Sebby

That's what I suggested, In, but it seems a bit strange that all PCs would be affected.

Rik

It really is one of those, 'pop round with a known good' machine moments, isn't it. :(
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Quote from: Sebby on Feb 10, 2008, 11:32:42
That's what I suggested, In, but it seems a bit strange that all PCs would be affected.

You did indeed Seb, I missed that ... sorry.
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Sebby

Indeed, Rik. Perhaps the OP could get someone to pop round with a laptop, though I realise that's not always possible.

Rik

How about it, Talos, do you have a friend who could pop round?
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talos2

Quote from: Rik on Feb 10, 2008, 10:56:33
It shouldn't do, particularly if it's affecting multiple machines, or are they all wireless?
Sorry about the late replies, been out all day shopping :(
Yes Rik they are both wireless,   since I set up the security I've had no end of trouble, both Mc's accepted the WPA2-PSK encrypt without probs,  but suddenly my network disappeared Internet was still OK, then the internet disappeared and the network came back, last night everthing went and the only cure was a reboot.
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Rik

Have a look for a conflicting network nearby, click on the wireless network icon in the system tray and view all networks. If you're seeing a lrge number, or just one other at maximum strength, switch the router to another wireless channel.
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talos2

Quote from: Rik on Feb 10, 2008, 11:38:46
How about it, Talos, do you have a friend who could pop round?
Unfortunately not we've only just got broadband around here and only the local MOD base seems to have laptops etc and I don't think they would be willing
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Sebby

It's a difficult one, it really is. How about plugging a PC in via ethernet temporarily?

talos2

Yes there is one quite strong, will try as you suggest.
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Quote from: talos on Feb 10, 2008, 15:42:00
Yes there is one quite strong, will try as you suggest.

Try removing the second, unwanted connection from Control Panel, Network Connections, list.

There is a list in there with the option to delete it, that is after you have changed the setting as suggested by Rik.
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talos2

Quote from: Sebby on Feb 10, 2008, 15:41:22
It's a difficult one, it really is. How about plugging a PC in via ethernet temporarily?
I think you might have something, I've brought in the laptop and tried to connect to the login via the wireless connection with the same result and its sitting next to the transmitter, so I tried with a ethernet lead from laptop to router and the login loaded instantly so surely it must have something to do with the wireless, but why only this site is a mystery.
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talos2

Quote from: Inactive on Feb 10, 2008, 15:47:39
Try removing the second, unwanted connection from Control Panel, Network Connections, list.

There is a list in there with the option to delete it, that is after you have changed the setting as suggested by Rik.

It's not active at the moment so it doesn't show up.
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Rik

It is. :( Try, temporarily, switching off security and see if you can connect then. If you can, then it's the encryption, if you can't, then it's the wireless itself.
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Quote from: talos on Feb 10, 2008, 16:28:17
It's not active at the moment so it doesn't show up.

A bit like me then..  ;D

Fair enough, it probably isn't that then if it does it still when the other connection isn't live.
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talos2

Quote from: Rik on Feb 10, 2008, 16:28:59
It is. :( Try, temporarily, switching off security and see if you can connect then. If you can, then it's the encryption, if you can't, then it's the wireless itself.
That was it Rick :-*
  Login page now loads instantly :laugh:
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Rik

OK, now we have the cause, we need a solution. What encryption method are you using, and what OS are the PCs running?
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talos2

WPA2 personal PSK and the desktop is running XP , Laptop Vista home premium
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Rik

Try WPA if you have the option, Talos.
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talos2

Will do.   ;D          Just had a call from SWMBO   :o I'll try it later  :-[
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Rik

Keep us posted. ATM, I'm wondering whether the machines are not coping with the WPA2 security.
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talos2

Just to give you an update,        NO Security---Instant login
                                               WEP2 PSK ----slow login page
                                                WEP PSK------         "            using TKIP encry
                                                WEP PSK------ Yes login instant using AES encry

Getting there I think,    but my laptop now wont recognise the new setup.  Going to give it a rest for now and try again later.    Still don't understand why it only affects login page though.
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