How long for the connection to settle after migration?

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Malc


Sebby


Captain K

Quote from: Malc on Feb 20, 2008, 20:38:00
Yet another happy customer ;D

Indeedy!  Just managed to get the BTtest to work to confirm it!

Test1 comprises of Best Effort Test:  -provides background information.
    IP profile for your line is - 7150 kbps
    DSL connection rate: 448 kbps(UP-STREAM)  8128 kbps(DOWN-STREAM)
    Actual IP throughput achieved during the test was - 6658 kbps

:happy:
Bruce.

I don't trust Camels.  Or any other creature that can go a week without a drink.

Sebby


Captain K

And now, I'd like to take a solemn moment.

By coincidence, today my old Tiscali account passed away, and it seems that Tiscali pulled the plug on the old email address this afternoon...
:rip:

Right.  Thats that out of the way.....lets party!  ;D ;D :happy: :banana2: :cheers: :beer1: :thup:

Big thanks to everyone who has offered advice and support on my way here!
:ty:
Bruce.

I don't trust Camels.  Or any other creature that can go a week without a drink.

Simon

Simon.
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Captain K

Thanks guys.  I do now feel like the journey is complete, and its a very good feeling.

(No smilies now - I think I've used up my smilie allowance for the month in the last 3 posts!)
Bruce.

I don't trust Camels.  Or any other creature that can go a week without a drink.

Rik

I'll give Simon a ring and tell him to order a few extra GB this month. ;)
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Malc


Mytheroo

Quote from: Rik on Feb 20, 2008, 09:47:33
Can you post your line stats upstream and downstream? I just wonder whether BT have made a mistake and not put you on SuperMax.

Hi, Rik. Unfortunately I flashed the router (Linksys WAG54GS) with newer firmware (to get a dropdown option including ADSL2(+) because I saw it was connecting with a.gmt and thought this might be contributing to my issue)..... and the result is no access to the (still working) router via web or telnet  :'(

However, it syncs at 8128/832, SNR down was 15 or 17db, I am not sure about up but both were in double figures. attenuation could have been anywhere from 15 to 30db, I remember seeing it but only remember thinking it was double figures, but under 30.

Can BT choose an option that gives 832 sync but not the throughput of 832?  Day 10 of my connection will be Saturday, so will probably give ID a call on Monday to take the next step.
There are 10 kinds of people, those who understand binary and those who don't.

Lance

The fact that you are syncing at 832 would nornally be sufficient. I don't think BT have the ability to limit the speed other than through contention at the exchange.
Lance
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Rik

What Lance said, Myth. We had a case yesterday of BT choosing to allocate all the speed to the d/s side, leaving the customer with only a 448 u/s sync, but there is no profile on the u/s side, so if you have the sync, you should have the speed.
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Mytheroo

yep saw that thread, will wait till my day off and start the ball moving  :)
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Mytheroo

ok, have been in contact with IDNet support with the following results:  If anyone has any ideas on  what I can try next, locally or otherwise I'd be happy to try. Also does anyone know of another case of the upload sync being increased but the throughput staying at EXACTLY the same speed as the previous sync. cheers

From: <Myth
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 4:50 AM

Hi, no change in upload speed, still maxing out at 40kB/s. I'm
assuming router is still sync'ing at 832 upstream but I updated the
firmware and can no longer get web or telnet access to it.
Can you look into this now (i think its 12 days now)
cheers, Myth
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Hi Myth
I have been in touch with a specialist helpdesk within BT to check your line. They had a good look and gave us a few bits to look into. They wanted to check your overall speed by online speedtests , speedtest.net would be ideal. Are you suffering any packet loss? When you are doing tests for your upload speed are you using any peer to peer applications? Overall when I asked if there was any way they could boost the upload they couldn't as there wasn't anything to fix, the line appears to be  working fine.
>> Please let me know
>> Kind Regards
IDNet Support.
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Hi Andrew, packet loss using Dan Elwell's Broadband speedtest shows no
> packet loss (attached screenshot49). Uploads via winmx p2p shown
> (attached #50) at 37000 bytes/sec throttle (2sec graph duration/50ms
> throttle interval), and then with no throttle, then throttle back on.
> I have 6 years experience using this graph for both my connection and
> troubleshooting others'. The graph is exactly what I expect of a maxed
> out upload when throttle is off. Maximum is 41000 bytes/sec with 2 to
> 8 distinct uploads.
> Speedtest.net results (these are very consistent)
> http://www.speedtest.net/result/239934831.png     6652/328kbps  (ie
> 41kB/s)
>
> All these results are identical to when my router was syncing at 448
> upload with Nildram
>
> All speedtests done independently of each other, no other uploads in
> progress (monitored via task manager, Netlimiter and TCPview) and no
> kservice.exe or kontiki style .exe's
>
> cheers, Myth

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Hi Myth
I've been back onto BT.

What they have indicated is the line is running as best it can at the
moment, there are no further tweaks that can be performed from their end
which could improve the upload speed further. They indicated whilst the
IP profile on the downstream can be set there is no guarantee on the
upload speed.

At this stage I have the assurance from BT the line is running best it
can, if there was a way to increase your upload we would certainly
pursue that avenue on your behalf.

Kind Regards

IDNet Support.

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thankyou for reading this long post guys and gals, any thoughts are appreciated. When my router connected at 832 i was soooo happy, and now i feel sad even though i havent really lost anything.

If nothing works, is there a cheaper package with 448 upload?

cheers, Myth

There are 10 kinds of people, those who understand binary and those who don't.

Rik

Hi Myth

If you can't get the upload speed, then drop to Home Max, £24.99, 448 upload sync, 30GB data allowance - unless, of course, you need the full 60GB of data.
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Sebby

It's a strange one, but in that case I guess the only thing you can do is drop your package (assuming the allowances are enough).

Mytheroo

can you think of anything I can change locally? is there a transmit Rwin setting for upload for instance. Will the list of used carrier channels for UL be of any help do you think (from another routers stats page)?
There are 10 kinds of people, those who understand binary and those who don't.

Rik

I don't think there's anything you can change locally, except, perhaps the router. The negotiation is out of your control, so there's nothing to tweak - it may just be a that a different router would perform better on your line. There is only one RWIN value that I know of.
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Mytheroo

ok, problem fixed. I changed the router to a wireless-n so I could run it off the master socket. Installed the dongle and got 2500/712 speedtest  :thumb:

So I ran cat5 to the master socket to run it all wired, and got 6800/330  :mad:

So I figured it has to be something in the wired circuit interfering.....I uninstalled nVidia Access Manager (network software stuff) and I got 6850/712   ;D

Am running Asus Striker (nVidia 680i chipset) for info purposes.

Am taking the new router back tomorrow too!
There are 10 kinds of people, those who understand binary and those who don't.

Rik

We live and learn. Thanks for posting back, Myth, I wouldn't have thought to look to software for the solution.  :blush:
Rik
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Gary

Quote from: Mytheroo on Mar 04, 2008, 05:33:19
ok, problem fixed. I changed the router to a wireless-n so I could run it off the master socket. Installed the dongle and got 2500/712 speedtest  :thumb:

So I ran cat5 to the master socket to run it all wired, and got 6800/330  :mad:

So I figured it has to be something in the wired circuit interfering.....I uninstalled nVidia Access Manager (network software stuff) and I got 6850/712   ;D

Am running Asus Striker (nVidia 680i chipset) for info purposes.

Am taking the new router back tomorrow too!
My mobo, an old Asus A8n SLI premium has a similar built in firewall, I never installed it after reading about the hell it caused on the Nvidia forums, seems like it still causes issue now and the Striker is an expensive mobo as well, sometimes having to many things doing the same job is just not needed
Damned, if you do damned if you don't

Sebby


Mytheroo

I'm not certain it's still got a firewall  in it. uTorrent gives a warning for it when it starts, but I've seen it posted that nVidia gave up on the firewall part. Maybe it is trying to give priority to certain packets, or run some kinda QoS. I certainly have never seen any firewall dialog box, and I have never had the option to allow incoming WinMx packets through, but they get through fine.

There are 10 kinds of people, those who understand binary and those who don't.

Gary

Quote from: Mytheroo on Mar 04, 2008, 15:36:51
I'm not certain it's still got a firewall  in it. uTorrent gives a warning for it when it starts, but I've seen it posted that nVidia gave up on the firewall part. Maybe it is trying to give priority to certain packets, or run some kinda QoS. I certainly have never seen any firewall dialog box, and I have never had the option to allow incoming WinMx packets through, but they get through fine.


on my mobo the firewall was called the Network access manager, you could set it to a basic antihacker setting of a couple of others from what I read, it was a basic hardware firewall like you get in a router, I would be surprised if they still used it as it was an unmitigated disaster
Damned, if you do damned if you don't