Have you ever Piggybacked wireless (even hit connect)

[somanyholes]

just to see how different this community is to a different poll run by sophos, available here, please try to vote honestly

http://www.sophos.com/pressoffice/news/articles/2007/11/wi-fi.html

[Rik]

I'm a yes. There's two in my vicinity that I took a look at to find who was being so stupid.

[somanyholes]

think u already know my answer as you where the second vote

[Rik]

Yes.

[madasahatter]

Just knew you'd have to start this........

I'm a no, being the innocent little hoob I am 8)

[somanyholes]

innocent my a*~@ 

[Gary]

I'm a yes, out of curiosity like Rik

[madasahatter]

innocent my a*~@ 

You're destroying my good reputation on here - you know that don't you? 

[Simon]

I have tried, out of curiosity, but didn't get anywhere, so I guess that's a No.

[ST Driver]

I'd be a yes   

[Danni]

Yes, for curiosity. With permission I even breached someone's WEP encyption.

[Rik]

Hi Danni

Nice to see you here.

[Danni]

You can't keep me away for long, Rik

[Baz]

yes for educational porpoises......and it was on my daughters lappy    so covered myself there 

[madasahatter]

My word - this place is even more lawless than the Sophos lot.  

I'm expecting some gunslinger to ride into town any minute now, and slience all the locals in the saloon just by walking in........  

[Rik]

Wait till Old Bill shows up.  

[somanyholes]

Wait till Old Bill shows up

pmsl

mad reckon your safe from gunslingers, they have problems seeing hoobs, seeing as hoobs are so small.

[Gary]

pmsl

mad reckon your safe from gunslingers, they have problems seeing hoobs, seeing as hoobs are so small.

And you can hide them by turning the TV off

[somanyholes]

 

And you can hide them by turning the TV off

love that one

[madasahatter]

pmsl

mad reckon your safe from gunslingers, they have problems seeing hoobs, seeing as hoobs are so small.

Not everything about us is small  , but   all the same .

Having said that - you're not much bigger so you should be safe too  

[madasahatter]

And you can hide them by turning the TV off

Not if you live in Hoobland like me 

[kinmel]

My neighbour and I regularly, but sensibly, use each others connection, it all depends on which connection has the best signal when your at the bottom of the gardens with the lappie.

[Inactive]

I don't do Polls, but my answer is No, nor would I.

[Gary]

Not if you live in Hoobland like me 

No that's just a case of increasing the medication

[madasahatter]

No that's just a case of increasing the medication

don't let the men in white coats come for me please Gary - I'm happy where I am 

[Gary]

don't let the men in white coats come for me please Gary - I'm happy where I am 

You're safe on this forum Mad, don't worry

[Lance]

My answer is a yes! A couple of times when I've house sat my girlfriend's sisters' place, I've taken my lappy and logged on a network in range! Out of curiosity, I once found the ip of the router, logged onto it using the default username and password and saw which isp they were using - it was talk talk!

The thing is, when I have three different unprotected networks to choose from when I'm there, ranging from strong to medium signals, I'm spoilt for choice!

[Captain K]

Yes, a couple of times.  Once at home, to see which of my neighbours was being such a wally.  The second time was when on hols in Australia at Christmas - no internet connection in our apartment, but it was a large apartment block and the wife "badly" needed the internet, so I had a snoop.  5 unsecured networks in range!  I let her send a couple of emails before guilt got the better of my and I disconnected. 

[Baz]

question here. If you 'used' someone elses connection do they get any indication on their system that some one has connected

[Lance]

Possibly not. The 2wire 2700HGV does show devices which have connected, whether they are currently active or not. It shows them either by PC name or ip number (in the case of my mobile phone). However, my linksys never used to show anything like that at all.

The only way they may be able to tell is if they see the lights on the router flashing when they wouldn't expect them to be.

[Baz]

what about along the lines of similar to plugging in a USB pen drive, you get the icon popping up in the taskbar...anything like that.

I would like to think that if I was daft enough to not secure my network that I would at least be able to tell if someone was using it.

Saying that though, I still know of people that dont have any AV protection on their machines  .  never understand that

[Lance]

I don't think you'll get anything like that Baz. Like i said above, I think the only way you'll ever tell if someone has used your connection is by either getting a 2wire 2700 or by watching your activity lights on the router.

[Rik]

Or, if you're not using wireless yourself and the light comes on... Lance is right though, check the network, it will show you what has connected and whether it's active, to a point.

[Ann]

No, from me.. too honest and guilt ridden.

[Rik]

I have some Freudian training if you want to discuss it, Ann.

[MoHux]

I'm a NO ............ what's wireless?? 

[Simon]

Don't tell me you never had a wireless, Mo! 

   

[Lance]

[MoHux]

Oh! You are iggerant!!  Us technically minded people call them things RADIOS!! 

[Simon]

Did you know, they don't even have valves any more? 

[MoHux]

Valves??  My cars got valves.    My radio has this little crystal.  I keep pinching the cats whiskers, but I still can't get it to work!! 

[Inactive]

 

[Rik]

Try the other cat's whisker, Mo. (Actually, I remember building crystal sets as a kid...)

[Moley]

Yes but by mistake have to say!  One of my neighbours has an unprotected network - now WEP or WPA - and my laptop connected to it when my isp was down (Tiscali strikes again).  I wish I knew who it belonged to so I could warn them..

[Rik]

If you right-click the connectoid in the system tray, Chris, you can 'view all networks', if you see it there, its SSID may give you a clue.

[somanyholes]

Yes but by mistake have to say!  One of my neighbours has an unprotected network - now WEP or WPA - and my laptop connected to it when my isp was down (Tiscali strikes again).  I wish I knew who it belonged to so I could warn them..

just use a laptop and use netsumbler, you can then walk around and see how string signal strength is, the stronger the signal the nearer you are to it. However people may not take kindly to being told, as they may think you have been doing things, you can never tell how people will react.

[Philip]

no, but i would if i could 

[Ted]

Sounds like a good idea but don't get caught

[somanyholes]

all it is, is passive scanning so there is no risk. You are not actually connecting to any devices so laws are not broken by looking at signal strength.

[madasahatter]

just use a laptop and use netsumbler, you can then walk around and see how string signal strength is

Anyone who actually does that really does need to get a life 

[Rik]

You've been quiet today, Mad. Busy day?

[madasahatter]

Yeah Rik - I'm actually having to do some work - and I ain't liking it

[Rik]

My sympathies. If I try hard, I can just remember what you're talking about. 

[madasahatter]

thansk Rik - that makes me feel SO much better 

[Rik]

We aim to please.

[madasahatter]

just too bad you don't aim to come here and do my work for me   

[Rik]

Would I find it interesting?

[madasahatter]

errrmmmm - well today I've been studying the configuration of wireless firewalls ready for a course I'm going on in a couple of weeks. I'm up to my eyes in WIDS and RAPD, not to mention PAPs and CHAPs etc

[Rik]

Well, once you've got them sussed, come and explain it all to me, will you.

[madasahatter]

You mean you want a nice bedtime story that'll send you to sleep? 

[Rik]

Yes, that would be handy. Could you do a podcast maybe.

[madasahatter]

Maybe - once I've learned about podcasting - it may take some little time..................

[Rik]

 

It's OK, I've got a stack of books that I'm not managing to read to keep me going in the interim.