MS warning that Vista SP1 will 'break' some programs

Gary · Feb 25, 2008, 11:30:01

Quote from: Rik on Feb 25, 2008, 11:26:32
Scotland is different too. And better

I liked Scotland better than Wales Rik, no offence to the Welsh, it just had something that made me want to look around, like my wallet maybe

Inactive · Feb 25, 2008, 11:32:14

Quote from: Killhippie on Feb 25, 2008, 11:24:46
I lived there for a while, and I would have to agree In North Wales is different though, beside it being north that is

The real differnce between N and S Wales is;

South Wales, they don't talk to the English;

North Wales they do talk to the English, but only in a foreign language..

Gary · Feb 25, 2008, 11:34:26

Quote from: Inactive on Feb 25, 2008, 11:32:14
The real differnce between N and S Wales is;

South Wales, they don't talk to the English;

North Wales they do talk to the English, but only in a foreign language..

a bit like Liverpool really since its so close

madasahatter · Feb 25, 2008, 17:57:30

You leave Scouseland alone Gary - it's my adopted home at the mo, and I'm lovin it - some ofthe time anyways

madasahatter · Feb 25, 2008, 18:06:08

Anyways, bring this thread back on topic (I know - boring aren't I?), I've read all sorts about this SP1 thing, and the big XP fans crowing about it all. The thought that struck me was - can nobody remember the absolute shambles that was XP SP2, or are some people just using their selective memories? Yep - MS should have learnt form that, and to be honest I think they have to a certain extent because they are actually warning you this time. Looking at the list and checking it out, most of those listed already have updates available that will be compatible with SP1.

From what I have read, the problem is occurring because of the way that these hook into the kernel of the OS. MS tries to make the OS more secure and what do they get apart from loads of biased press that is just itching to have a go at them? I'm not pretending that I love MS or Bill Gates, but to be honest I think that all this coverage is pretty much ( to borrow a phrase from my good friend Will ), much ado about nothing.

*ducks to avoid the missiles I can hear ready to be thrown at me

*

Rik · Feb 25, 2008, 18:15:13

No, Mad, I haven't forgotten SP2. I waited a good long time before installing it.

madasahatter · Feb 25, 2008, 18:16:51

Me too Rik - about 2 years in the end

Was worth it though - didn't have a problem

Rik · Feb 25, 2008, 18:20:28

Me neither. By the time I put it on, just before they stopped doing updates for SP1, all the issues had been sorted. I'm not cautious, I'm very cautious.

madasahatter · Feb 25, 2008, 18:24:14

To be honest, I think I'm gonna wait before putting SP1 on the laptop to see what comes up. Have been looking at replacing my desktop too, but am now gonna put it off until they come preinstalled with SP1 to save me the bother.

Rik · Feb 25, 2008, 18:27:23

Sounds like a plan. I've used a similar strategy in the past myself.

Niall · Mar 08, 2008, 21:22:23

Quote from: Killhippie on Feb 25, 2008, 11:30:01
I liked Scotland better than Wales Rik, no offence to the Welsh, it just had something that made me want to look around, like my wallet maybe

I live in Wales, and I agree with you. It's all very boring around here. Obviously there are some very nice areas of countryside, but the same can be said of anywhere. Personally I'd like to live in a nice part of Scotland, or southern Ireland (with lots of read heads skipping through the heather

)

ducky22 · Mar 08, 2008, 22:56:14

The problem is idiot software develops who don't keep programs up to date. SP1 beta has been around for a while - more than enough to check compatability and patch their code if necessary.

I'm actually running it now (cheers to friend for his MSDN login

) and have had no problems at all.

bob_s · Mar 09, 2008, 09:20:45

I always feel most sorry for the people who use PCs and aren't technical.

These, the same people who have auto update enabled. They may buy some magazines for free programs, usually a previous version of the program.

So these people also dont know how to check to see whats on the incompatible list. They wont know how to check the web for the patch to fix the problems.

So sadly the people who are most affected by bad releases of software and patch updates are the same people who dont know how to fix it. $:-\$

Rik · Mar 09, 2008, 09:57:37

Very true, Bob. They are also generally the ones who have no idea about security, AV etc.

Niall · Mar 10, 2008, 20:04:01

Quote from: bob_s on Mar 09, 2008, 09:20:45
I always feel most sorry for the people who use PCs and aren't technical.

These, the same people who have auto update enabled. They may buy some magazines for free programs, usually a previous version of the program.

So these people also dont know how to check to see whats on the incompatible list. They wont know how to check the web for the patch to fix the problems.

So sadly the people who are most affected by bad releases of software and patch updates are the same people who dont know how to fix it. $:-\$

I was sort of one of those people once. I grew up with ZX81s, spectrums, Amigas, Acorn Electrons, BBC model A and Bs, some Amstrad behemoths, Apple touch screens (in the early eighties!) and finally PC (which were very basic pre windows, DOS based things). I had a break from using them every day for nearly 8 years and finally decided to splash out on a P3 600. Because of my gap in knowledge at the time I was trying all sorts of free programs. It didn't take long to realise that while these area good taster, it's abundantly clear that updates are needed or they don't work properly, or at all!