Is there an ongoing issue with 2Wire Router usage ? Im having an issue .

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kinmel

Thanks for that.

The DNS poisoning is working on your Dual SSID, which is good.

What are the first 4 characters of the Serial Number ?

So we now know that the Dual has at least 2 BT versions of the Greenlight provisioning information and this info is not overwritten by the usual firmware upgrades.

Cheers





Alan  ‹(•¿•)›

What is the date of the referendum for England to become an independent country ?

Rik

Going back off topic ;), it is interesting to see how strongly Wales is represented in the forum.
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Simon

Quote from: kinmel on Mar 02, 2008, 07:08:45
Thanks for that.

The DNS poisoning is working on your Dual SSID, which is good.

What are the first 4 characters of the Serial Number ?

So we now know that the Dual has at least 2 BT versions of the Greenlight provisioning information and this info is not overwritten by the usual firmware upgrades.

Cheers

Ignoring Rik's attempt at hijacking the thread, ;)  so, all these constant entries in the log are 'normal', Kinmel?  I can't help wondering if it's making itself too 'busy', and whether this could be affecting the connection?  The first 4 digits of the SN are 2207.
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kinmel

Quote from: Simon on Mar 02, 2008, 10:14:42
Ignoring Rik's attempt at hijacking the thread, ;)  so, all these constant entries in the log are 'normal', Kinmel?  I can't help wondering if it's making itself too 'busy', and whether this could be affecting the connection?  The first 4 digits of the SN are 2207.

It is strange, the Provisioning URLs in your modem are the same as the Single SSID version, whilst other Duals with earlier and later production dates have the second set of Provisioning URLs.

Did yours arrive in it's sealed wrapping, or had it been opened ?  If it had already been opened, then  I suspect it had previously been hacked in some way and that could be a source of some of your problems.

The CWMD command is being issued as part of the re-boot process, but is being defeated by the DNS poisoning, I assume the router's processor is designed to be busy, you could turn off the poisoning and see if there is an improvement.
Alan  ‹(•¿•)›

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Simon

Quote from: kinmel on Mar 02, 2008, 10:40:02
It is strange, the Provisioning URLs in your modem are the same as the Single SSID version, whilst other Duals with earlier and later production dates have the second set of Provisioning URLs.

Did yours arrive in it's sealed wrapping, or had it been opened ?  If it had already been opened, then  I suspect it had previously been hacked in some way and that could be a source of some of your problems.

The CWMD command is being issued as part of the re-boot process, but is being defeated by the DNS poisoning, I assume the router's processor is designed to be busy, you could turn off the poisoning and see if there is an improvement.

No, it wasn't brand new, and I don't know if it had been previously hacked.  I just followed the instructions for DNS poisoning, which seemed to work.

To be honest, I beginning to wonder if these just won't work properly once they've been 'interfered' with.  They are designed to work on BT, and that's that, perhaps?

If I turn off poisoning, won't it revert to the default log in?

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kinmel

Quote from: Simon on Mar 02, 2008, 10:45:24
No, it wasn't brand new, and I don't know if it had been previously hacked.  I just followed the instructions for DNS poisoning, which seemed to work.

To be honest, I beginning to wonder if these just won't work properly once they've been 'interfered' with.  They are designed to work on BT, and that's that, perhaps?

If I turn off poisoning, won't it revert to the default log in?



Now you are up and running you do not need the poisoning to keep going, I would take the entries back out and see if that improves anything.
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Simon

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kinmel

Alan  ‹(•¿•)›

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Sebby

What I'm wondering is whether there is a generic firmware out there somewhere for dual SSID models. Surely 2Wire don't make them sole for BT...

Simon

If I reboot, I'll have to start the 14 day thing all over again!!  :argh:
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kinmel

The firmware is generic and then use different Activation Keys to set the router up with ISP specific provisioning.

BT use  528Y - 27G4 - A222 - 22BJ - B22V and for manual set up you use 5225-2374-WG62-22AS-BJ7P.

On top of this 2Wire then flash each modem with specific Provisioning Information for BT, or whoever.  The URLs we poison are specific to BT's Provisioning Info. Bt use  2Wire's in-built Greenlight technology to then make changes to the router's firmware and Provisioning Info.


The whole process is explained Here
Alan  ‹(•¿•)›

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kinmel

Quote from: Simon on Mar 02, 2008, 11:18:37
If I reboot, I'll have to start the 14 day thing all over again!!

It depends on how urgent it is to do the re-boot.
Alan  ‹(•¿•)›

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Simon

Ah, now this is interesting - I did do the reboot, and now syncing much faster, but something is worrying:

Troubleshooting – DSL Diagnostics
General Information
DSL Line (Wire Pair):    Line 1 (inner pair)
Downstream Rate Cap:    8128 kbps
Downstream Atten. at 300kHz:    31.6 dB
Uncancelled Echo:    -16.6 dB    Ok
VCXO Frequency Offset:    -1.4 ppm    Ok
Final Rx Gain:    21.2 dB    Ok
Impulse Noise Comp. Tones:    1    Suspicious - impulse noise detected
Excessive Impulse Noise:    0    Ok
Impulse noise protection:    1.50
Delay of latency path:    8.00 ms

Time                           Line         Rate     Max1     Max2     Max3     Mgn1     Mgn2     Attn     Pwr
08/03/02 11:25:21 GMT     1         4928     4972     4876     4876     15.1     15.0     34.9     19.8

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Rik

Ted or Dean explained that to me once, Simon. I'm typing through a migraine and about to drop offlibe, but do a search on impulse noise, it should find it.
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Simon

I'm going to have to leave this now, and come back to it later.  Hope you feel better soon, Rik. 
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Sebby

Quote from: kinmel on Mar 02, 2008, 11:22:58
The firmware is generic and then use different Activation Keys to

I always knew about the activation keys, but is the firmware not BT-branded at all?

Quote from: Rik on Mar 02, 2008, 11:33:09
I'm typing through a migraine and about to drop offlibe

I hope you feel better, Rik.  :)

Rik

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miker

Quote from: kinmel on Mar 02, 2008, 10:40:02
It is strange, the Provisioning URLs in your modem are the same as the Single SSID version, whilst other Duals with earlier and later production dates have the second set of Provisioning URLs.

Did yours arrive in it's sealed wrapping, or had it been opened ?  If it had already been opened, then  I suspect it had previously been hacked in some way and that could be a source of some of your problems.

The CWMD command is being issued as part of the re-boot process, but is being defeated by the DNS poisoning, I assume the router's processor is designed to be busy, you could turn off the poisoning and see if there is an improvement.


Mine has the https://cwmp.cms.smehomehubrms.bt.com/ every 4 mins too - it is a dual with the 5.29.107.12 software and has been in use for a while but the software has not updated. hardware is 2701-100589-xxx
Why did you ask about once per day?

Mike

kinmel

Quote from: miker on Mar 02, 2008, 13:49:36

Why did you ask about once per day?

The modem calls home at a precise time each day if the ADSL line is open, mine calls  ......
      
   
INF    2008-03-01T07:59:55Z    cwmd:  retried session started, server: 'https://pbthdm2.bt.motive.com/cwmpWeb/CPEMgt';, event code(s): '4 VALUE CHANGE,1 BOOT'
INF    2008-03-01T08:00:01Z    cwmd:  session completed successfully
INF    2008-03-01T08:00:01Z    cwmd:  session started, server: 'https://pbthdm2.bt.motive.com/cwmpWeb/CPEMgt';, event code(s): '4 VALUE CHANGE,2 PERIODIC'
INF    2008-03-01T08:00:04Z    cwmd:  session completed successfully


Alan  ‹(•¿•)›

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Sebby

Does using the other activation key that you posted get rid of the BT stuff? I thought it actually a custom BT firmware.

kinmel

The Bt branding is part of the BT Provisioning overlay, you can't delete it, but you can use the 2wire native pages at router summary pages for example.
Alan  ‹(•¿•)›

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Dont mention Talk Talk !!

lemme run this past you guys

the WOEFUL results I was getting with the 2wire HG1800 router occurred when the cable that connects from the adsl filter to the adsl port on the modem was a cable that at each end has two little gold , I call em connection points as I dont know the proper term. My brother, who gave me the 2wire said he gave me an adsl cable for use with the 2wire that has 4 of those little connection points at each end.

I have the DLink hooked up to my pc once more and I am using the 2 connection points adsl cable that Ive always used with it . My line is interleaved and the DLink is connecting at 8128k sync and 6500k IP profile, Im expecting the IP profile to rise to 7150k once more with next day or so. Either way, at 6500k profile, I am getting download speeds circa 6250kb/sec and you cannot complain about that.

Does my bro have a point that the other adsl with its 4 conections at each end and hooked up to the 2wire will free it up to release its max throughput speeds and not the rubbish I was getting when it was used with the other adsl cable ?

If it aint broke dont fix it are words I think are very wise , but is there anybody out there who thinks that other cable WILL make the 2wire run like a V8 instead of the Lada 1200CC I found it to be.

What do you think ?

James :think:

Rik

I doubt it, James. The router only needs a pair of wires, if the cable was on the wrong pair, it wouldn't work at all. OTOH, a quick swap will tell you for sure.
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