Tonights work??

psp83 · Mar 03, 2008, 18:31:20

Will tonights work affect all ISP's or just IDnet?

Rik · Mar 03, 2008, 18:32:39

AFAIK, all, Paul. It's work on BT routers and fibre, so I'm guessing that sync won't drop but PPP will, hence the stale session warning.

psp83 · Mar 03, 2008, 18:34:20

oh ok.. i wont do what i had planned tonight while i slept then..

thanks

Rik · Mar 03, 2008, 18:35:56

Do I want to know the details, Paul??

madasahatter · Mar 03, 2008, 18:36:41

Quote from: psp83 on Mar 03, 2008, 18:34:20i wont do what i had planned tonight while i slept then..

the mind boggles

psp83 · Mar 03, 2008, 18:38:35

hehe, Its just something i was going to run between this pc and my pc at work.

Ted · Mar 03, 2008, 18:39:46

Just got in from work.
what's happening tonight???
Should i take an alcoholic anesthetic and go to bed early???

J!ll · Mar 03, 2008, 18:41:23

I would

Rik · Mar 03, 2008, 18:43:01

Quote from: xild on Mar 03, 2008, 18:39:46
Just got in from work.
what's happening tonight???
Should i take an alcoholic anesthetic and go to bed early???

BT engineering work, Ted, likely to cause an hour of downtime between midnight and 6am. Possibility of stale sessions, so you might want to give your router the night off.

Gary · Mar 03, 2008, 18:43:41

Bang goes my midnight chats to the other side of the world

J!ll · Mar 03, 2008, 18:44:39

My youngest son wont be happy, he's usually on until small hours of the morning

Ted · Mar 03, 2008, 18:45:09

midnight to 6am lets me off the hook, can barely keep my eyes open now!!

Rik · Mar 03, 2008, 18:45:48

We don't know when it will go down, just the time span. My hunch is 2am, but that's only because I intend to be asleep at the time.

Ted · Mar 03, 2008, 18:47:33

Quote from: Rik on Mar 03, 2008, 18:45:48
We don't know when it will go down, just the time span. My hunch is 2am, but that's only because I intend to be asleep at the time.

madasahatter · Mar 03, 2008, 19:00:55

Quote from: Rik on Mar 03, 2008, 18:45:48
We don't know when it will go down, just the time span. My hunch is 2am, but that's only because I intend to be asleep at the time.

Like all good boys should be eh Rik?

Rik · Mar 03, 2008, 19:01:40

Which is why, of course, I'm often in here at the time.

madasahatter · Mar 03, 2008, 19:03:48

Ted · Mar 03, 2008, 19:09:52

Quote from: Rik on Mar 03, 2008, 19:01:40
Which is why, of course, I'm often in here at the time.

You naughty boy! you're supposed to set a good example to these youngsters.

Rik · Mar 03, 2008, 19:10:42

I do, Ted. I sit here with the shotgun and chase them out.

RA-1972 · Mar 03, 2008, 19:10:56

Does any other isp let u you know about bt work ...................................... No good old idnet .

Rik · Mar 03, 2008, 19:13:28

We'll all be sitting here waiting for nothing to start happening, and BT will surprise us by not doing the work.

Baz · Mar 03, 2008, 20:47:16

Quote from: RA-1972 on Mar 03, 2008, 19:10:56
Does any other isp let u you know about bt work ...................................... No good old idnet .

mine do usually and they havent mentioned this.......

Inactive · Mar 04, 2008, 02:28:41

Quote from: Rik on Mar 03, 2008, 18:45:48
My hunch is 2am, but that's only because I intend to be asleep at the time.

Wrong !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mytheroo · Mar 04, 2008, 05:43:35

maybe i missed it, but is 5:45 and haven't seen it drop ;-)

madasahatter · Mar 04, 2008, 06:14:32

Don't know if it actually happened cos I slept through it, but everything seems fine this morning

Gary · Mar 04, 2008, 07:12:26

Well I had my router unplugged so I have no idea, thought I would give it a night off for once

madasahatter · Mar 04, 2008, 07:54:22

Quote from: Killhippie on Mar 04, 2008, 07:12:26
Well I had my router unplugged so I have no idea, thought I would give it a night off for once

a night off? You're being far too kind to it Gary

Gary · Mar 04, 2008, 08:05:01

Quote from: madasahatter on Mar 04, 2008, 07:54:22
a night off? You're being far too kind to it Gary

well it works hard and never has a day off.....bit like someone in a trainer factory in Indonesia

So I thought I should set an example to other routers in my area and let it have the night off

So by doing that the work would not have happened of course

psp83 · Mar 04, 2008, 08:25:52

Well my PPoA was down for 64mins last night.. Logs didnt show nothing thou.

Glenn · Mar 04, 2008, 08:29:10

I had to reboot my router this morning, but I got a bonus from it, an extra 100kbs in connection rate, not enough to raise my profile though.

Gary · Mar 04, 2008, 08:37:20

Quote from: psp83 on Mar 04, 2008, 08:25:52
Well my PPoA was down for 64mins last night.. Logs didnt show nothing thou.

So my routers little sleep was worth while after all

Rik · Mar 04, 2008, 08:47:26

I wonder if this is work which only affected some parts of the BT network. I also gave my router the night off, so all I can say is I gained some speed this morning.

Ray · Mar 04, 2008, 08:58:46

Quote from: Rik on Mar 04, 2008, 08:47:26
I wonder if this is work which only affected some parts of the BT network. I also gave my router the night off, so all I can say is I gained some speed this morning.

I think you could be right, Rik, nothing appears to have happened here, nothing in the logs and my DSL and Internet uptime are showing 18 days.

Rik · Mar 04, 2008, 09:06:30

The wording of the BT advice was so vague, Ray, that it was anyone's guess as to what was going to happen. One day, we'll take no notice and they'll do something major.

Noreen · Mar 04, 2008, 10:11:01

I left my router on as usual and this morning it says that it's been connected for 104 hours and there's nothing in the logs for last night/this morning.

Rik · Mar 04, 2008, 10:13:12

Well, we know something happened, Noreen, but so far BT seem to have targeted only Paul. Now, he's had a previous overnight drop with the rolling programme, so I wonder if the two events are linked?

madasahatter · Mar 04, 2008, 10:15:58

Is it anything to do with Geographical location? Here in Hoobland (or Yorkshire as the rest of the country calls it

) nothing seems to have happened at all. Or does that mean that nasty old BT simply forgot about us?

Rik · Mar 04, 2008, 10:16:45

It means BT are keeping you on the piece of wet string.

madasahatter · Mar 04, 2008, 10:20:21

Sounds about right

Rik · Mar 04, 2008, 10:21:55

Be grateful, here in Milton Keynes, all they can afford is a single thread...

psp83 · Mar 04, 2008, 11:38:44

Quote from: Rik on Mar 04, 2008, 10:13:12
Well, we know something happened, Noreen, but so far BT seem to have targeted only Paul. Now, he's had a previous overnight drop with the rolling programme, so I wonder if the two events are linked?

BT always pick on me

Rik · Mar 04, 2008, 11:40:36

Someone has to be the sacrificial lamb, Paul.

(How very Paschal of me

)

madasahatter · Mar 04, 2008, 11:49:58

Quote from: Rik on Mar 04, 2008, 11:40:36
Someone has to be the sacrificial lamb, Paul. (How very Paschal of me )

And almost seasonal Rik

kinmel · Mar 05, 2008, 07:40:00

Lost my connection at 01.38am today, stayed sync'd , it reconnected immediately afterwards.

Rik · Mar 05, 2008, 08:43:01

Odd, maybe someone tripped over a cable at the exchange...

Inactive · Mar 05, 2008, 10:43:40

I had a blip at around that time as well, perhaps BT got the date wrong.

Gary · Mar 05, 2008, 10:45:03

No blips on the radar here, unless BT are doing it in shifts for areas around the country

Rik · Mar 05, 2008, 10:45:17

Quote from: Inactive on Mar 05, 2008, 10:43:40
I had a blip at around that time as well, perhaps BT got the date wrong.

Wouldn't be the first time, or it could just be the ongoing maintenance programme that runs until the 20th. That was supposed to bring a 20 minute downtime, but reports have all been of much shorter outages.

Gary · Mar 05, 2008, 10:46:40

Mine was 6 minutes, as you have said Rik, the twenty minutes is a cover all number in case of eventualities

Gary · Mar 06, 2008, 11:05:17

Had another blip last night just after midnight, no loss of sync but PPP again, this is getting quite regular

Thu, 2008-03-06 00:31:45 - Initialize LCP.
Thu, 2008-03-06 00:31:45 - LCP is allowed to come up.
Thu, 2008-03-06 00:32:12 - CHAP authentication

Rik · Mar 06, 2008, 11:06:06

Might be worth a word with support, Gary, see if they can spot anything from their logs.

Gary · Mar 06, 2008, 11:06:58

Quote from: Rik on Mar 06, 2008, 11:06:06
Might be worth a word with support, Gary, see if they can spot anything from their logs.

will do Rik

Gary · Mar 06, 2008, 11:19:59

Mystery to support, think I had Miriam, I'm always so impressed with how fast they come up with answers even if they are not pointing at anything much, seems its probably BT again forcing PPP down doing work but not letting people know where and when, as my exchange was not listed for work, but if its only small amounts BT wont tell anyone anyway

Its great to have IDNet there giving you answers in real time with no scripts, I'm always amazed at how efficient they are, even after being with IDNet for almost 5 months

Rik · Mar 06, 2008, 11:22:02

Is it only five months, Gary. It seems longer. I confess I don't easily remember 'pre-IDNet' these days.

Gary · Mar 06, 2008, 11:24:17

Quote from: Rik on Mar 06, 2008, 11:22:02
Is it only five months, Gary. It seems longer. I confess I don't easily remember 'pre-IDNet' these days.

I joined in October last year Rik, seems longer to me as well, time flies when you dont have to moan 24/7 about bad connections and email grief and everyone in India being called Nigel telling you, its because you have dialup sir when you had Orange BB, which was rather like dialup I suppose

Rik · Mar 06, 2008, 11:28:25

In that case, Gary, it's almost six months.

Gary · Mar 06, 2008, 11:30:21

Quote from: Rik on Mar 06, 2008, 11:28:25
In that case, Gary, it's almost six months.

Time does fly Rik

Rik · Mar 06, 2008, 11:31:10

It does in here.

Gary · Mar 06, 2008, 11:47:02

Quote from: Rik on Mar 06, 2008, 11:31:10
It does in here.

Just checked, I registered in September

Its getting longer by the minute, Oo er missus

Rik · Mar 06, 2008, 11:47:47

So's my face, Gary, but the events are unrelated.

Gary · Mar 06, 2008, 11:49:02

Quote from: Rik on Mar 06, 2008, 11:47:47
So's my face, Gary, but the events are unrelated.

are you sure

Rik · Mar 06, 2008, 11:52:38

Yes.

RA-1972 · Mar 06, 2008, 18:28:24

i had the same, session went down at 12.10 am so i went to bed back on now .

Noreen · Mar 06, 2008, 18:41:30

So if we didn't get the BT work done as promised, does that mean that we still have it to come "sometime"?

Rik · Mar 06, 2008, 18:46:38

Not necessarily, Noreen. Your exchange may have been done last year, or it may not affect your particular VP or even DSLAM. As BT have been coy about what it is they are doing, exactly, we just don't know. Of course, they still have a couple of weeks to get to you too.

Gary · Mar 06, 2008, 19:20:05

Our exchange is being put onto the 21CN network in Q3 this year which could explain the activity as well, I guess there is alot of work to be done

Rik · Mar 06, 2008, 19:21:07

A huge amount, Gary. Let's hope we benefit.

Gary · Mar 06, 2008, 19:27:35

Quote from: Rik on Mar 06, 2008, 19:21:07
A huge amount, Gary. Let's hope we benefit.

Indeed, as Miriam said unless its having a really adverse effect on you BT would not do a lot anyway, and in this case probably can't, lets just hope it keeps us vaguely up with the rest of the world, now if they only took notice of the Japanese....

Gary · Mar 08, 2008, 11:36:03

Sat, 2008-03-08 01:22:54 - Initialize LCP.
Sat, 2008-03-08 01:22:54 - LCP is allowed to come up.
Sat, 2008-03-08 01:23:03 - CHAP authentication

Yet again Saturday night, I know its only for a brief time but its starting to annoy me now

Rik · Mar 08, 2008, 11:37:52

No loss of sync being reported, Gary?

Gary · Mar 08, 2008, 11:40:31

No Rik, I was at the computer at the time I notice if the lights flash on it, as its so quick since I was just defraging I would not have noticed the issue on line but since the new router dsl light goes out when you lose sync you notice its really obvious

Gary · Mar 08, 2008, 11:42:16

To be honest Rik, its the least of my problems at the moment so I'm not that concerned

Rik · Mar 08, 2008, 11:46:45

Might be worth dropping support an email, Gary, they would be able to tell you what they are seeing.

Gary · Mar 08, 2008, 14:35:05

Quote from: Rik on Mar 08, 2008, 11:46:45
Might be worth dropping support an email, Gary, they would be able to tell you what they are seeing.

Tried that the other day, they were seeing a healthy line

if BT are doing work and its just small amounts they wont list it and IDNet wont see it

Rik · Mar 08, 2008, 15:13:40

IDNet should see any disconnections, however short. Maybe BT are doing something weird that stops IDNet seeing the drop, but leaves you with one.