A 2Wire 2700 HGV BT Business Hub Router Wireless

Started by LesD, Mar 23, 2008, 17:44:52

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LesD

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Ok my 2wire 2700 HGV router arrived today or to be more precise two arrived.
I have not got to the bottomed of why the seller sent two but with only one power supply.
I thought I would try them both to see if they both worked or not.

I did the power on factory reset as recommened on both and then connected one of them via ethernet port 1 to my PC and entered http://gateway.2wire.net/management and discovered the Summary page which contained the following:

System Summary
System
Model: BT2700HGV
Serial Number: 5206xxxxxxxx
MAC Address: --:--:--:--:--:--
Hardware Version: 2701-100588-005
Hardware Options: Wireless present
DSL Modem Type: ADSL
Current Software: 5.29.107.19 
DSL Modem: 7.2.2

Configuration
Key Code: 528Y-27G4-A222-22BJ-B22V
System Time: Retrieving date and time settings from the Internet...
Time Since Last Boot: 0  days  00: 02: 17
Last ID Post: Thursday, January 1, 1970
00:00:00 AM


Components
bto_logo: 102189
bto: 102192
bto_en: 102190
bt-2700hgv-pppoa_config: 102188
base_ui: 102168
common_en: 102170
base_voice: 102169
bto_providerconf: 102191
system: 102167
Firewall Rules: 1000
Application List: 1001
IGMP Proxy: Disabled
IGMP Querier: Disabled
IGMP Snooping: --

I then followed kinmel's post in Rik's thread, "Contributions wanted" but without the Wizard as I have not yet connected the ADSL BT line to it.

What has me foxed is that when I enter my IDNet user access name and password at Congigure and hit Submit

it is not accepted and I see this preceded by a warning triangle, Your PPP Username is not correct!

and it reverts back to what was there originally namely: green-light@service.btclick.com

I did the DNS poisoning and other steps as described but without reconnecting up I am not sure if this was accepted or not now.

Your help and advice would be very much appreciated.

If this one won't work maybe the other one will.
Regards,

Les.


Lance

What you need to do is once you have entered your idnet details, don't press the submit/save button, but in the address bar type javascript:document.pagepost.submit() and press enter. This saves the correct details but bypasses the validation present on the dual SSID v5 firmware.
Lance
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Steve

I followed the instructions below

http://www.idnetters.co.uk/forums/index.php?topic=5295.msg102417#msg102417

this worked fine.Or if you are concerned about the apparent error the method suggested by Lance works fine
Steve
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Lance

Quote from: stevethegas on Mar 27, 2008, 20:26:00
the method suggested by Lance works fine

It's the method I used without any problems!
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LesD

Quote from: Lance on Mar 27, 2008, 20:19:36
in the address bar type javascript:document.pagepost.submit() and press enter.

Thanks Lance, your method worked like magic for me and I am on line using the 2Wire as I type.  :thumb:

I have copied some stats which I will paste here:
Broadband Link – Statistics  ATM Statistics
  IP Statistics
DSL  Down  Up
Current Rate:  3552 kbs   448 kbs 
Max Rate:  3552 kbs   1064 kbs 
Current Connection:
Current Noise Margin:  12.0 dB   25.0 dB 
Current Attenuation:  40.9 dB   26.0 dB 
Current Output Power:  18.5 dBm   11.9 dBm 

ATM  Cells  Errors  %
Transmit:  2718  0  0
Receive:  5451  0  0

IP  Bytes  Packets  Errors  %
Transmit:  110763  414  0  0
Receive:  249272  385  0  0

So its a typical evening sync speed for me much the same as my Netgear has but maybe if I get a faster one in a morning it will hang on better than the Netgear does in the busy noisy periods.

The was such a lot ticked in the Advanced Firewall bit I did as kinmel says but I left the rest as it was.
If you read X for a tick this is how I have it now:

Firewall – Advanced SettingsWARNING
Modifying the settings on this page can impact the ability of computers on the local network to access your broadband connection. Modifications may also affect broadband-enabled applications and services running on the local network.
Security
Check to enable the features below:
Stealth Mode   x
Block Ping   x
Strict UDP Session Control

Inbound and Outbound Control
Checking the box allows the associated traffic type through the firewall.
Outbound
HTTP   X   Remote Management   
HTTPS   X   NetBIOS
FTP   X
Telnet   X
SMTP   X
DNS   X
NetBIOS
POP3   X
IMAP   X
NNTP   X
IRC   X
H323   X
All Other Protocols Inbound   x

Attack Detection
Excessive Session Detection   x
TCP/UDP Port Scan   x
Invalid Source/Destination IP address   x
Packet Flood (SYN/UDP/ICMP/Other)   x
Invalid TCP Flag Attacks (NULL/XMAS/Other)   x
Invalid ICMP Detection   x
Miscellaneous    x

Is this OK?

Sorry to be such a nuisance but I will get there in the end.  :)

The next job will be to get the No. 2 machine networked or my better half, Carol wil be bending my ear!  :eek4:


Regards,

Les.


kinmel

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Sebby


LesD

#32
Thanks kinmel for taking a look at the Firewall stuff and for the  :thumb: Sebby. Between Lance your good selves et al I have one of the two 2wires I received today working.  ;D

Do I just plug the second PC into port 2 say and let the DHCP sort things out or will I need to do some manual configuring? I know stop asking and try it and see!  ;)

With the Current Software being: 5.29.107.19 is this one I should flash or not. I am assuming not because it has the PHONE 1 & PHONE 2 labels on the front that Lance said early on meant it was a dual SSID model, which must not be flashed.

Does any of this spell it out?  ???
Model: BT2700HGV
Serial Number: 5206xxxxxxxx
Hardware Version: 2701-100588-005
Hardware Options: Wireless present

Regards,

Les.


Sebby

As you say, just plug the second PC in and it'll automatically be assigned an IP, so there'll be no additional configuration now.

You're correct that you have a dual SSID model, so don't flash it. ;)

By the way, I've replaced some of your serial number with crosses. I always think it's best not to post serial numbers; you never know who's watching. :P

LesD

Quote from: Sebby on Mar 27, 2008, 21:13:05
As you say, just plug the second PC in and it'll automatically be assigned an IP, so there'll be no additional configuration now.

I tired it and can confirm that the second machine is connected OK too!  :)

Quote from: Sebby on Mar 27, 2008, 21:13:05You're correct that you have a dual SSID model, so don't flash it. ;)

Right I won't.  :no:

Quote from: Sebby on Mar 27, 2008, 21:13:05By the way, I've replaced some of your serial number with crosses. I always think it's best not to post serial numbers; you never know who's watching. :P
Ah good thinking. Thanks for that.  :thumb:

Could you do it in my first post this evening too I have posted the number there too? Thanks in anticipation.
Regards,

Les.


Sebby


LesD

Quote from: Sebby on Mar 27, 2008, 21:22:10
I'm glad it's all sorted. :thumb:

Did you see my modification re Serial No's. as follows:

Could you do it in my first post this evening too I have posted the number there too? Thanks in anticipation.

This post starts, "Ok my 2wire 2700 HGV router arrived today or to be more precise two arrived".
Regards,

Les.


Sebby


LesD

Regards,

Les.


Lance

Glad you have it all up and running, Les! I noticed that your noise margin is 12db. If you can hold sync for 15 days this should reduce by three which will give you a higher sync. Like you say, resyncing in the morning could well give a higher sync anyway.
Lance
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Sebby

Indeed; the 12dB target margin is probably caused by the previous instability, but as things seem to be stable now, this should hopefully lower by itself. The best thing to do is just leave the router alone, which I'm sure you'll do anyway. :)

LesD

Quote from: Sebby on Mar 27, 2008, 23:03:54
The best thing to do is just leave the router alone, which I'm sure you'll do anyway. :)
Oh dear how could I possibly do that when I had a second one to try!  :whistle:

So here we go after doing something different with the second 2wire 2700 HGV that I know not what I got one of those stale connections I have read about with a BT screen saying that I could not connect intead of the one I expected to get.  :eek4:

So while waiting the half an hour I had also read about I did the set-up again all the way from the factory reset and here I am up and running with the second router that the most generous eBay seller has confirmed that he had knowingly sent to me because he only had one power supply and did not think anyone would want one without a PSU.  Well I for one am most grateful because even though I can't figure out how to use two on one line  :)  a spare is always handy to have.

Here's the stats that I have just connected with at about 4:35 PM:

Broadband Link – Statistics  ATM Statistics
  IP Statistics
               DSL  Down       Up
Current Rate:  4256 kbs   448 kbs 
Max Rate:      4256 kbs   1072 kbs 
Current Connection:
Current Noise Margin:  12.0 dB   25.0 dB 
Current Attenuation:  40.5 dB   26.0 dB 
Current Output Power:  19.4 dBm   11.9 dBm 

ATM  Cells  Errors  %
Transmit:  1501  0  0
Receive:  6087  0  0

IP  Bytes  Packets  Errors  %
Transmit:  56918  300  0  0
Receive:  281755  314  0  0

The connection speed is the best yet with these two 2wires but I suspect it is more to do with the time of day than the particular 2Wire I am using or does someone think differently?  ???
Regards,

Les.


Rik

That's a good step up in sync speed, Les, now all you have to do is keep the connection stable for 14+ days. You'll get a slightly better speed now than in an hour or two, and the best speed of all in the morning, but that's likely to be less stable.

Nice move by the vendor - a spare router is always worth having. :)
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Sebby

Yep, a good increase, and not uncommon with the 2Wire; it can surprise you when you least expect it! In this case, it's probably just down to there being less noise in the day. :)

LesD

Well so far so good with the second of my ebay 2Wire 2700 HGV's:

DSL  Down  Up
Current Rate:  4256 kbs   448 kbs 
Max Rate:  4256 kbs   1072 kbs 
Current Connection:
Current Noise Margin:  9.0 dB   25.0 dB 
Current Attenuation:  40.5 dB   26.0 dB 
Current Output Power:  19.2 dBm   11.9 dBm 
 


A Noise Margin of 9 dB at 8 PM is unheard of for me! Is it just a fluky evening or does this Router really make this sort of difference ? Only time will tell I guess.  ;).
Regards,

Les.


LesD

Here I am again with Saturday morning's Stats from the second of my two 2Wires and I have hung on overnight to the connection speed that I connected at yesterday afternoon.   :) This despite some of the worst throughput speeds last night that I have had since joining IDNet!   :(

DSL  Down  Up
Current Rate:  4256 kbs   448 kbs 
Max Rate:  4256 kbs   1072 kbs 
Current Connection:
Current Noise Margin:  13.0 dB   25.0 dB 
Current Attenuation:  40.5 dB   26.0 dB 
Current Output Power:  19.3 dBm   11.9 dBm 

This was the result of a BT speed test at 8:40 PM  29/3/8:

IP profile for your line is - 3000 kbps
DSL connection rate: 448 kbps(UP-STREAM)  4256 kbps(DOWN-STREAM)
Actual IP throughput achieved during the test was - 2752 kbps

Room for improvement? What do you folks reckon?  ;)

Regards,

Les.


Rik

You should get another 500k of profile if you hold the sync for five days, Les. Throughput for a 3000 profile is pretty much spot on.
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Sebby

Quote from: LesD on Mar 29, 2008, 08:53:54
Room for improvement? What do you folks reckon?  ;)

The profile needs to update, but your throughput for the current profile is good.  :thumb:

LesD

Quote from: Sebby on Mar 29, 2008, 11:42:21
The profile needs to update, but your throughput for the current profile is good.  :thumb:
I recall the wait for the IP Profile to improve when I was "jailed" by BT at 135 kbps after the umpteen disconnects when I was trying out my CAT5 cable before I installed it properly with the filtered Master Socket faceplate I got from ADSL Nation.

Todays throughput is fine as you say for a 3000 kbps Profile. It was the 400 kbps just after 10 PM last evening that was not so good!
Regards,

Les.


Rik

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