Can't get RouterStats to play ball with my 2700

Cookiemonster · Mar 27, 2008, 23:46:51

I've had a look around but can't seem to see any help with the above subject. I can't seem to get RouterStats working with my 2700,(Dual SSID) i can get the lite version working but really wanted the full version running. Also just tried Pinggraph and can't get that running either! I must be doing something wrong i guess. In the address bar I'm using the following..

http://192.168.1.254/xslt?PAGE=A01&THISPAGE=A05&NEXTPAGE=A01

Is that correct?

Sebby · Mar 28, 2008, 00:21:16

I also had trouble with the full version, but not with the lite version. Perhaps someone else can shed some light.

Cookiemonster · Mar 28, 2008, 00:27:38

Ok cheers Sebby.

Rik · Mar 28, 2008, 08:32:00

Use:

http://home/xslt?PAGE=B02&THISPAGE=B01&NEXTPAGE=B02

with no login...

Steve · Mar 28, 2008, 08:50:19

I think in addition, if the url Rik posted does not give the correct information in the full version 2.8 Go>configure>Router Search Text>Get Page. highlight the relevant text (just the numbers) and click the corresponding mark button,you can also create user defined values eg errors if you wish.You should see your assigned value at the bottom of the page, then save and close.Good luck

Cookiemonster · Mar 28, 2008, 10:35:30

Quote from: stevethegas on Mar 28, 2008, 08:50:19
I think in addition, if the url Rik posted does not give the correct information in the full version 2.8 Go>configure>Router Search Text>Get Page. highlight the relevant text (just the numbers) and click the corresponding mark button,you can also create user defined values eg errors if you wish.You should see your assigned value at the bottom of the page, then save and close.Good luck

When i try that i get the following screen...http://stevenraffan.www.idnet.com/pictures/pic1.jpg

Rik when i try your link routerstats doesn't find it. I must be doing something else wrong!

Rik · Mar 28, 2008, 10:36:26

You're getting the correct screen, you just need to mark the required text.

Cookiemonster · Mar 28, 2008, 10:42:43

Ah yes i get you now. Sorry didn't realise i had to actually input the values. Now how do i get ping graph to work?

Rik · Mar 28, 2008, 10:47:35

In what way?

Cookiemonster · Mar 28, 2008, 10:50:14

To moniter my pings. Obviously when i start it there is an address bar. Do i put a website in there? I'm not very good with software.

Rik · Mar 28, 2008, 10:52:17

Yes, just enter www.bbc.co.uk, or whatever, and then hit the 'play' arrow. I normally set the text log to record anything outside tolerance range, so if I normally see, say, 25ms, I'd set it to record anything over 40ms.

Cookiemonster · Mar 28, 2008, 11:12:40

Ok thanks i have done that, but it's reporting in the graph pings of over 3000ms. when i ping bbc.co.uk i usually get 26-27,ms however today i'm getting in the 50-60s anything else i'm doing wrong RIk? maybe you should start charging me...

Steve · Mar 28, 2008, 11:15:24

Quote from: jester212 on Mar 28, 2008, 10:35:30
When i try that i get the following screen...http://stevenraffan.www.idnet.com/pictures/pic1.jpg

Rik when i try your link routerstats doesn't find it. I must be doing something else wrong!

Its the wrong page showing for selecting values: top left configure> Router search text >get page > then select and mark. Regards.

Cookiemonster · Mar 28, 2008, 11:16:15

Quote from: stevethegas on Mar 28, 2008, 11:15:24
Its the wrong page showing for selecting values: top left configure> Router search text >get page > then select and mark. Regards.

Yeah got it sorted now mate. Thanks for the help.

Rik · Mar 28, 2008, 11:17:59

Quote from: jester212 on Mar 28, 2008, 11:12:40
Ok thanks i have done that, but it's reporting in the graph pings of over 3000ms. when i ping bbc.co.uk i usually get 26-27,ms however today i'm getting in the 50-60s anything else i'm doing wrong RIk? maybe you should start charging me...

If manual pings are 'normal', there must be something odd in the Ping Graph setup. I'm seeing manual pings of ~24ms, Ping Graph is showing similar times, but peaking at 50 ish. A 3000 ping means you got a 'no reply' usually.

Cookiemonster · Mar 28, 2008, 11:22:50

Yeah thats what i was thinking, but when i check the show full response window it shows it pinging the bbc.co.uk website but it's not showing the results in the graph correctly.

Rik · Mar 28, 2008, 11:27:41

OK, here's mine running at the moment. I'll go and get a series of shots of the setup. Back shortly...

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Rik · Mar 28, 2008, 11:31:10

First two

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Rik · Mar 28, 2008, 11:31:50

Second two

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Cookiemonster · Mar 28, 2008, 11:45:58

Thanks for the above info Rik. I've followed it to a T, even re-installed the program but still all i get is the 3000ms ping...I'm lost now

Rik · Mar 28, 2008, 11:51:51

3000ms is what it displays when the ping times out. By their nature, pings get low priority across the 'net. Are you running anything else at present, eg a torrent?

Try a manual ping with the -n switch, eg ping www.bbc.co.uk -n 100, see what that reveals.

Cookiemonster · Mar 28, 2008, 11:57:33

Pinging www.bbc.net.uk [212.58.251.207] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 212.58.251.207: bytes=32 time=27ms TTL=249
Reply from 212.58.251.207: bytes=32 time=27ms TTL=249
Reply from 212.58.251.207: bytes=32 time=28ms TTL=249
Reply from 212.58.251.207: bytes=32 time=31ms TTL=249

Ping statistics for 212.58.251.207:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 27ms, Maximum = 31ms, Average = 28ms

I take it thats what you meant? I have nothing running except my comodo firewall and NOD32. I have turned the firewall off to see if that makes a difference but it doesn't.

Rik · Mar 28, 2008, 11:59:08

You didn't use the -n switch - that pumps out more than the normal 4 packets, and will give a better idea of what's happening.

Cookiemonster · Mar 28, 2008, 12:06:45

Ok and how do use the n switch?

Rik · Mar 28, 2008, 12:10:49

Check the last line of my post at reply #20, that gives you the syntax (you can cut'n'paste), eg

ping www.bbc.co.uk -n 100

Pinging www.bbc.net.uk [212.58.251.201] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 212.58.251.201: bytes=32 time=23ms TTL=249
Reply from 212.58.251.201: bytes=32 time=24ms TTL=249
Reply from 212.58.251.201: bytes=32 time=23ms TTL=249
Reply from 212.58.251.201: bytes=32 time=24ms TTL=249
Reply from 212.58.251.201: bytes=32 time=24ms TTL=249
Reply from 212.58.251.201: bytes=32 time=25ms TTL=249
Reply from 212.58.251.201: bytes=32 time=24ms TTL=249
Reply from 212.58.251.201: bytes=32 time=24ms TTL=249
Reply from 212.58.251.201: bytes=32 time=25ms TTL=249
Reply from 212.58.251.201: bytes=32 time=24ms TTL=249
Reply from 212.58.251.201: bytes=32 time=24ms TTL=249
Reply from 212.58.251.201: bytes=32 time=23ms TTL=249
Reply from 212.58.251.201: bytes=32 time=24ms TTL=249
Reply from 212.58.251.201: bytes=32 time=27ms TTL=249
Reply from 212.58.251.201: bytes=32 time=23ms TTL=249
Reply from 212.58.251.201: bytes=32 time=24ms TTL=249
Reply from 212.58.251.201: bytes=32 time=23ms TTL=249
Reply from 212.58.251.201: bytes=32 time=27ms TTL=249
Reply from 212.58.251.201: bytes=32 time=22ms TTL=249
Reply from 212.58.251.201: bytes=32 time=25ms TTL=249
Reply from 212.58.251.201: bytes=32 time=24ms TTL=249
Reply from 212.58.251.201: bytes=32 time=24ms TTL=249
Reply from 212.58.251.201: bytes=32 time=23ms TTL=249
Reply from 212.58.251.201: bytes=32 time=25ms TTL=249

Ping statistics for 212.58.251.201:
Packets: Sent = 24, Received = 24, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 22ms, Maximum = 27ms, Average = 24ms

Cookiemonster · Mar 28, 2008, 12:20:17

Pinging www.bbc.net.uk [212.58.251.208] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 212.58.251.208: bytes=32 time=30ms TTL=248
Reply from 212.58.251.208: bytes=32 time=38ms TTL=248
Reply from 212.58.251.208: bytes=32 time=48ms TTL=248
Reply from 212.58.251.208: bytes=32 time=33ms TTL=248
Reply from 212.58.251.208: bytes=32 time=33ms TTL=248
Reply from 212.58.251.208: bytes=32 time=31ms TTL=248
Reply from 212.58.251.208: bytes=32 time=33ms TTL=248
Reply from 212.58.251.208: bytes=32 time=30ms TTL=248
Reply from 212.58.251.208: bytes=32 time=42ms TTL=248
Reply from 212.58.251.208: bytes=32 time=34ms TTL=248
Reply from 212.58.251.208: bytes=32 time=48ms TTL=248
Reply from 212.58.251.208: bytes=32 time=40ms TTL=248
Reply from 212.58.251.208: bytes=32 time=29ms TTL=248
Reply from 212.58.251.208: bytes=32 time=33ms TTL=248
Reply from 212.58.251.208: bytes=32 time=27ms TTL=248
Reply from 212.58.251.208: bytes=32 time=29ms TTL=248
Reply from 212.58.251.208: bytes=32 time=30ms TTL=248
Reply from 212.58.251.208: bytes=32 time=32ms TTL=248
Reply from 212.58.251.208: bytes=32 time=32ms TTL=248
Reply from 212.58.251.208: bytes=32 time=30ms TTL=248
Reply from 212.58.251.208: bytes=32 time=36ms TTL=248
Reply from 212.58.251.208: bytes=32 time=30ms TTL=248
Reply from 212.58.251.208: bytes=32 time=34ms TTL=248
Reply from 212.58.251.208: bytes=32 time=32ms TTL=248
Reply from 212.58.251.208: bytes=32 time=32ms TTL=248
Reply from 212.58.251.208: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=248
Reply from 212.58.251.208: bytes=32 time=30ms TTL=248
Reply from 212.58.251.208: bytes=32 time=36ms TTL=248
Reply from 212.58.251.208: bytes=32 time=30ms TTL=248
Reply from 212.58.251.208: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=248

Ping statistics for 212.58.251.208:
Packets: Sent = 30, Received = 30, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 27ms, Maximum = 48ms, Average = 33ms

Ok got it. I am stupid sometimes. That average is certainly higher than usual.

Rik · Mar 28, 2008, 12:25:44

OTOH, the spike is only 48ms, not the 3000ms that you're getting from Ping Graph. That's pretty normal tbh, at this time of day, for example, pings are likely to increase as the BBC servers get more hits (ping traffic generally is given a low priority, so if the server is busy, the figure goes up). Is your line interleaved?

Cookiemonster · Mar 28, 2008, 12:28:23

No the line is in Fast mode. I have noticed my SNR has risen 1dB to 7dB.

Rik · Mar 28, 2008, 12:29:04

It tends to rise during the day, fall at night.

Whereabouts are you?

Cookiemonster · Mar 28, 2008, 12:36:28

I'm about 5 miles outside Aberdeen.

Rik · Mar 28, 2008, 12:40:39

That would increase you ping times a bit, simply because distance is a factor (try pinging a US site, for example). I suspect also that your are routed through BT's Edinburgh POP, which does seem to have been producing some high pings of late.

Is Ping Graph still hitting 3000?

Rik · Mar 28, 2008, 12:44:18

Here's a full screen of plots from me. You'll see a number have gone 'off the scale'. Some are when I've been doing things with a high priority on the connection, but I suspect that one or two were simply down to the server not responding in time.

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Cookiemonster · Mar 28, 2008, 12:50:43

Yeah, i have also noticed something. On your picture you have at the the bottome...Plot started: then the date..after that you have info on where your pinging. on mine i don't have that info. Have a look
http://stevenraffan.www.idnet.com/pictures/ping.jpg

How on earth do you attach things lol!

Rik · Mar 28, 2008, 12:59:11

What version of Ping Graph are you using, Steven?

You can attach if you use the normal reply box, not the QR box, then hit Additional Options. Each post can have up to 2 512k files, or you can do it my linking with IMG tags, eg [ img]http://stevenraffan.www.idnet.com/pictures/ping.jpg[ /img] becomes

once you remove the spaces after the opening [ bracket.

Cookiemonster · Mar 28, 2008, 13:02:16

Ok cheers for that. I'm using version 1.2 it says on the setup/options page

Rik · Mar 28, 2008, 13:03:34

I'm on 1.1, I wonder if John changed anything in 1.2?

Cookiemonster · Mar 28, 2008, 13:08:29

Don't suppose you have the exe. of 1.1 do you so i can try it? Only thing i can see thats is mentioned as changes are the following.

(5 Feb 2008 - Mod to reduce screen flicker)
(7 Feb 2008 - Changed the colour-selection method. Added Average Ping plot. Added Logging facility)
(8 Feb 2008 - Improved prompting for Log filename when changing ping address. Stopped URL Address list saving a blank address.)

Rik · Mar 28, 2008, 13:15:09

PM me an email addy...

Cookiemonster · Mar 28, 2008, 13:20:25

Sent.

Rik · Mar 28, 2008, 13:22:30

Likewise.

Cookiemonster · Mar 28, 2008, 13:28:26

Ok i have tried that and still no joy what so ever. As you can see from the screens i still get the 3000ms ping but in the other box it's showing as pinging fine.

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Rik · Mar 28, 2008, 14:08:51

I wonder whether it's a Vista thing? I don't, for example, have the info panel under the version number in the first screen shot, so something clearly changes between your machine and mine. John appears to have tested on XP, and that's what I'm using (and I was involved in the testing of the program).

Ignore that - I didn't have the box checked. Try unchecking it to see if it has any impact...

Cookiemonster · Mar 28, 2008, 14:15:27

I have XP installed so i can dual boot ,i shall go and test it on there and report back. Also unchecking make no difference.

Rik · Mar 28, 2008, 14:20:15

Puzzling. Try the XP boot and let me know will you.

Cookiemonster · Mar 28, 2008, 14:22:24

Just tried it on Xp and it works fine, Graph was showing correct results. I guess it doesn't like Vista then.

Rik · Mar 28, 2008, 14:23:54

Sounds like it. It would be worth dropping John an email, he's very responsive to issues I've found.

Cookiemonster · Mar 28, 2008, 14:26:13

Yeah i shall. Can't believe it's took the best part of a day to work this out!! Ha Ha. Thanks anyway Rik

Rik · Mar 28, 2008, 14:37:59

It never occurred to me that Vista would block it, but I suppose if John's software (I think he uses Delphi) is not 'Vista aware', it might not be making the calls the right way.

Cookiemonster · Mar 28, 2008, 14:39:19

Yeah good point. I've dropped him an email explaining what happened so I'll let you know if anything comes from it.

Rik · Mar 28, 2008, 14:40:22

Thanks.

Sebby · Mar 28, 2008, 15:52:36

There's an easy way round this problem; stop using Vista.

I made the move from Vista to XP and haven't looked back since.

Rik · Mar 28, 2008, 15:53:19

I didn't like to say that, Sebby.

Sebby · Mar 28, 2008, 15:53:54

Steve · Mar 28, 2008, 16:09:42

Sorry had to bin vista,too many BSOD. However PingGraph with vista seems to work if you use the same method as for command prompt reliability i.e right click PingGraph "run as administrator" from the start menu program listing. (not checked desktop shortcut)

Rik · Mar 28, 2008, 16:10:15

Thanks for that, Steve.

Cookiemonster · Mar 28, 2008, 16:17:49

Quote from: stevethegas on Mar 28, 2008, 16:09:42
Sorry had to bin vista,too many BSOD. However PingGraph with vista seems to work if you use the same method as for command prompt reliability i.e right click PingGraph "run as administrator" from the start menu program listing. (not checked desktop shortcut)

Yeah tried that Steve, same results. Well I'm happy with Vista I'm afraid. Don't think I've had one BSOD yet!! Touch Wood!

and really want DX10 when it comes to gaming so in the mean time I'll stick with it.

Rik · Mar 28, 2008, 16:24:56

I wonder, Steve, whether there's some other element of your setup blocking Ping Graph. John might have a clue...

Cookiemonster · Mar 28, 2008, 16:51:38

God knows Rik! can't think of anything obvious.

Rik · Mar 28, 2008, 16:57:55

It would likely be a security aspect, but I regard Vista as akin to an alligator infested swamp, so can't really give much advice.

Cookiemonster · Mar 29, 2008, 12:01:54

Got a reply from John. He hasn't got a Vista system as of yet to test on, but he is hoping to rectify that this weekend and let me know what he finds.

Rik · Mar 29, 2008, 12:02:52

Let us know how it goes, Steve.

Cookiemonster · Mar 29, 2008, 14:33:23

Got this response from John not long ago Rik...

QuoteAs you suspect, it looks like it's SP1 that's preventing it running. The
attached jpg shows it running in Vista but without SP1.

He will let me know if and when he has a fix for it, but in the mean time people running Vista with SP1 will not be able to run PingGraph correctly.

Jester

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Rik · Mar 29, 2008, 14:41:50

Thanks for the update, Steve. John is very good, considering the price of his software, at trying to solve issues, add features etc.

Cookiemonster · Mar 29, 2008, 23:06:02

Well version 1.3 is now available and it fixes the issues with Vista SP1. I have it working fine now. Hats off to the bloke for his work.

Steve · Mar 29, 2008, 23:42:43

O dear, Microsoft willing be rushing out SP2. They cant have people solving problems that quickly

Sebby · Mar 30, 2008, 02:02:28

Quote from: jester212 on Mar 29, 2008, 23:06:02
Well version 1.3 is now available and it fixes the issues with Vista SP1. I have it working fine now. Hats off to the bloke for his work.

That's very commendable.

Rik · Mar 30, 2008, 09:27:15

John's a great guy. I was testing Ping Graph for him and asked if he could add text logging, oh, and could he make it either full or selective, and could he put the site name in the graph and...

He just kept sending me new versions till it had everything I'd asked for.

He should join, then we could give him karma.