BT Wholesale releases WBC activation dates for first 868 exchanges!

[D-Dan]

I was talking about the likely extra £20

[Rik]

Only if you sign up...

[Inactive]

TBH, I am quite happy with the speed of my connection as it is.

[Rik]

Even though my speed is relatively low, In, I'm not sure I need more, given the way I use the connection. Unless data allowamces change in line, potentially all a speed change will achieve is to use the allowance more quickly.

[Sebby]

I agree, Rik. I'm not a big downloader, and really I use my connection for web browsing.

[Rik]

According to the DSL Zone estimator, ADSL2 will give me 2-4Mbps. As I already have 3, it seems unlikely to be much of an improvement, if any. Of course, if the 'three strikes' policy comes into effect, few people will need high speeds. 

[plugwash]

Ahhh - so I'm gonna have to find an extra £20 per month after August because they'll hike the price to IDNet

I can't imagine they will be able to get away with charging that much more given that be seem to be making thier way into more and more exchanges.

[PhilT]

"because they'll hike the price to IDNet "

bit of guesswork there. The WBC Indicative Launch tariff shows if anything a price reduction. The end user circuits are about the same £7.81 per month with a £3.40/month ADSL2+ add-on. These figures are reduced on "dense" exchanges to £6.03 plus £1.70.

The cost of the interconnects will probably be lower, depending on IDnets chosen configuration.

Have IDnet indicated they will be in at the launch with a WBC product ?

Phil

[Rik]

Last I heard, Phil, they were waiting for BTw to confirm service pricings.

[PhilT]

Last I heard, Phil, they were waiting for BTw to confirm service pricings.

so that sounds like "it depends" rather than "yes we will have WBC products" ?

[Rik]

I'm sure they will be there, but I suspect that the pricings are needed before any ISP can put together a package structure.

[madasahatter]

I think it's more "when we find out the BT prices, we'll know what to charge the punters"  

[Rik]

Exactly.

[PhilT]

there's a strategic decision to get involved with WBC at this stage and a tactical one about package design and pricing. Indicative pricing is in the public domain from a recent BT meeting but to me that's a bit of a detail as there are extra infrastructure costs in running a WBC system either nationally or on a regional basis - it would be useful if IDNet were to say "yes we will be offering WBC products at or soon after launch" to allow customers and resellers to plan accordingly.

[Malc]

I think it's more "when we find out the BT prices, we'll know what to charge the punters"  

And you can guarantee BT won't miss the chance to bang up the prices, by inflation of 10% sorry 2%.

[Rik]

Cynic.

[PhilT]

And you can guarantee BT won't miss the chance to bang up the prices, by inflation of 10% sorry 2%.

Your guarantee isn't up to much, if anything prices will be lower for the same capacity.

[Malc]

Your guarantee isn't up to much, if anything prices will be lower for the same capacity.

Reading this thread it sounded to me that the prices hadn't been set yet, that's why ID were holding back.

[madasahatter]

Cynic.

but probably right 

[Malc]

but probably right 

Cheers Mad

[PhilT]

Reading this thread it sounded to me that the prices hadn't been set yet, that's why ID were holding back.

the final price announcement is imminent, I have in front of me the BT Indicative Launch Tariff sheet which has been discussed with ISPs.

I was primarily interested in whether IDnet are planning to offer WBC products - a major decision in itself - pricing is neither here nor there in the big picture and has been offered in this thread as a distraction from the core question. I guess it will become apparent eventually.

[Rik]

If you want a definitive answer, Phil, give Simon or Tim a ring - assuming that they don't see this thread and respond. The rest of us can only speculate, postulate and hypothesise.

[Malc]

And we will 

[Rik]