Why you should use Avast!

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Danni

Apr 06, 2008, 22:24:00
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Ted

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Apr 06, 2008, 22:35:08
Cool animation. but why do i need Avast?
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Danni

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Apr 06, 2008, 22:37:17
That was a joke, because the animator uses Avast to capture and tame The Chosen One.
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Ted

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Apr 06, 2008, 22:40:20
I realize that. But why do "i" need it?
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Sebby

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Apr 06, 2008, 22:59:04
You only do if you have no antivirus on Windows. :)

Ted

#5
Apr 06, 2008, 23:06:53
Quote from: Sebby on Apr 06, 2008, 22:59:04
You only do if you have no antivirus on Windows. :)
Its a joke!
I don't run windows, so have no need for antivirus software :thumb:
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Sebby

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Apr 06, 2008, 23:08:09
I can only imagine what that must be like. :P

Ted

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Apr 06, 2008, 23:09:18
Quote from: Sebby on Apr 06, 2008, 23:08:09
I can only imagine what that must be like. :P
Bliss (pun intended) ;D
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Lance

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Apr 06, 2008, 23:13:23
Quote from: Ted on Apr 06, 2008, 23:06:53
I don't run windows, so have no need for antivirus software :thumb:

The first ever recognised virus was on a Apple Mac...
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Ted

#9
Apr 06, 2008, 23:15:46
Quote from: Lance on Apr 06, 2008, 23:13:23
The first ever recognised virus was on a Apple Mac...
Lucky i don't use a mac then :thumb:
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Lance

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Apr 06, 2008, 23:29:01
 ;D
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Danni

#12
Apr 07, 2008, 00:16:38
Apparently I am as bad at making jokes as I am at understanding them...

I'm glad you enjoyed it though :)
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somanyholes

#13
Apr 07, 2008, 13:11:46
still better to use av on linux, theres are tons of exploits for linux, the main difference being they don't really have issues with worms, due to distro differences etc. still very susceptible to rootkits though ...

any os can get infected, it's just code after all.

Rik

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Apr 07, 2008, 13:12:30
Can and, eventually, will, So. :(
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Cookiemonster

#15
Apr 07, 2008, 13:58:15
Very entertaining! :thumb:

Lance

#16
Apr 07, 2008, 14:17:42
As it gets more popular with end users, it will get more popular with the virus writers :(
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Danni

#17
Apr 07, 2008, 19:05:37
I think the point is that due to the design of the operating system, they cannot cause as much damage. I do run antivirus software on the webservers (though admittedly that's also to prevent it passing on Windows viruses) but at the moment because there are so few viruses for Linux in the wild it isn't worth running one on my desktop computers. I'm just careful not to let Colin have my root password :P
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Ted

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Apr 07, 2008, 23:24:52
Quote from: Danni on Apr 07, 2008, 19:05:37
I think the point is that due to the design of the operating system, they cannot cause as much damage. I do run antivirus software on the webservers (though admittedly that's also to prevent it passing on Windows viruses) but at the moment because there are so few viruses for Linux in the wild it isn't worth running one on my desktop computers. I'm just careful not to let Colin have my root password :P

Agreed.
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Apr 07, 2008, 23:39:10
I'm not so sure that it's due to the design of the OS. As Linux is open source then theoretically it may actually be easier to write code that can infiltrate it.

I think it's more to do with the fact that there are more Windows machines by a large margin and the people who write these things see it as a potential to do damage on a larger scale. Also the fact that they're attacking a large corporation may also appeal to their anarchistic tendencies.

Lance

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Apr 08, 2008, 07:34:49
Quote from: john on Apr 07, 2008, 23:39:10
I'm not so sure that it's due to the design of the OS. As Linux is open source then theoretically it may actually be easier to write code that can infiltrate it.

I think it's more to do with the fact that there are more Windows machines by a large margin and the people who write these things see it as a potential to do damage on a larger scale. Also the fact that they're attacking a large corporation may also appeal to their anarchistic tendencies.


:iagree:
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somanyholes

#21
Apr 08, 2008, 08:05:27
there may be a hell of a lot less viruses for linux/unix/mac based os's but there are still massive amounts of exploits for there os's, exploits lead to escualted priviliges, trojans rootkits etc etc. Will be interesting to see what happens with the likes of ubuntu etc over the next few years as their market share grows, it wasnt long since that mac users where saying ohhh we don't need av, now that outlook has changed a bit, it will with linux in time to.

Danni

#22
Apr 08, 2008, 17:14:40
True about the exploits. That's why you have to be up to date with security updates, and is why I use an OS backed by a commercial company. Of course, the biggest issue we have is exploits in php and php-based software, which have caused mass defacements in the past :(
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Ted

#23
Apr 08, 2008, 18:31:31
Quote from: somanyholes on Apr 08, 2008, 08:05:27
there may be a hell of a lot less viruses for linux/unix/mac based os's but there are still massive amounts of exploits for there os's, exploits lead to escualted priviliges, trojans rootkits etc etc. Will be interesting to see what happens with the likes of ubuntu etc over the next few years as their market share grows, it wasnt long since that mac users where saying ohhh we don't need av, now that outlook has changed a bit, it will with linux in time to.

1. you're right there are a lot less viruses for Linux
2. Massive = ?
3. escualted priviliges ? please explain.
4. You could be correct there as Ubuntu and spinoffs use the sudo system for root privileges.
5. Maybe but i doubt it.

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Apr 09, 2008, 08:34:36
hi ted

By massive i meant, a large amount, sure most linux distro's have a better patching process than microsoft, but many 0 days still exist for os's that have been out for a long time.

A bit of info on privilge esculation for you here. And yes windows is more susceptible, than unix based os's.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privilege_escalation , all it relates to really is exploiting apps/services then gaining root/sudo/su access etc .....
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