Pings with IDNet

[stevie0573]

they must have been feeding them gremlins again either that or theres birds nesting in ur exchange

[Aaron]

What's up with the pings today? they've been going up and down all afternoon:

Tracing route to idnet.net [212.69.36.10]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  firewall [192.168.1.1]
  2   376 ms   368 ms   378 ms  telehouse-bb-gw1-vpdn.idnet.net [212.69.63.45]
  3   370 ms   372 ms   373 ms  telehouse-gw-bb.idnet.net [212.69.63.9]
  4   355 ms   371 ms   394 ms  redbus-gw.idnet.net [212.69.63.1]
  5   381 ms   379 ms   404 ms  www.idnet.net [212.69.36.10]

Tracing route to idnet.net [212.69.36.10]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  firewall [192.168.1.1]
  2   210 ms   212 ms   204 ms  telehouse-bb-gw1-vpdn.idnet.net [212.69.63.45]
  3   197 ms   220 ms   228 ms  telehouse-gw-bb.idnet.net [212.69.63.9]
  4   280 ms   284 ms   303 ms  redbus-gw.idnet.net [212.69.63.1]
  5   320 ms   322 ms   299 ms  www.idnet.net [212.69.36.10]

[maxping]

Well, every time I see a post about pings, I ping ident.net to see what happens.
It was 118ms average this time, though I am interleaved.

I don't understand why some days it's 30 and others 500, but then there are lots of things I don't understand.

Unless you are into on-line gaming i wouldn't let it bother you 

[Nerval]

Thanks Max, it would take more than that to bother me. 

However, I do tend to be  a seeker after knowledge in my spare time, so I was interested more as a bystander than as a gamer.
I suspect though that it's one of life's many mysteries.

ps I hope it's OK to post this without being accused of spamming 

[BassoProfundo]

I agree entirely. I'm not  gamer, so it doesn't really bother me that my pings never seem to drop below 50ms ish (not interleaved). It's always been that way, ever since I went onto Broadband over 3 years ago.

So, purely in the interests of incresing knowledge, can somebody enlighten me as to how pings can be influenced in that very first hop between my router and the first gateway found in a tracert? I guess that's down to the BT "cloud" no?

[Nerval]

Basso, I don't know how you find it, but whenever I ask technical questions of those supposedly in the know, it takes very little probing before you get into foggy territory and discover that their knowledge is only a step or two further than your own, if that. (anyone reading this excepted, of course!)

And I freely admit that I know next to bu**er all. 

[maxping]

Thanks Max, it would take more than that to bother me. 

However, I do tend to be  a seeker after knowledge in my spare time, so I was interested more as a bystander than as a gamer.
:

Whats spare time? 

Usually the only people who notice bad pings are gamers , surfers don't run ping tests so are blissfully unaware, as a gamer i notice daily as i use All Seeing Eye to search for servers and it reports the pings to each server.

My pings have been fine for ages , i do use the BT log in when i get bad pings and it usually works though the actual test doesn't ( i believe the actual log in  cures the connection and the test is of no importance)..

[BassoProfundo]

discover that their knowledge is only a step or two further than your own

I know what you mean Nerv. It can sometimes make for amusing reading, though you often have to search pretty hard for those nuggetts of knowledge.

What gets me is when CS reps (not from IDNet, I hasten to add!!) attempt to talk over your head by spouting technobabble. I've been a hardware and software designer for 25 years now (currently designing design tools for real-time Operating Systems), so I know a fair bit - certainly enough to be able to counter such attempts at obfuscation quite effectively  Comes in handy in PC World too 

However, the more you know, the more you know you don't know. And along those lines, the amorphous cloud of technology that exists between the telephone exchange and the ISP's gateway in Telehouse-whatever is opaque to me. It'd be really nice to understand a little more of what goes on there. So, any pointers to sources of knowledge would be gratefully received.

[Willie]

obfuscation....love that word....gonna make it a word for the day on Monday, i'll see how many times i can get it into a conversation....should be fun....sad i know but when you get loads of calls from users asking silly questions like....'my computer isn't working....the lights are on but there is nothing showing on the screen....is your monitor turned on?....hesitation....hmmmm....no....okay turn it on please....ahhhhh great it seems to be working now....brilliant thx now i can go onto argos and order the kids chrimbo presents....' and thats the director....

Willie

[Nerval]

Yo Willie, does that mean we can ask you hard questions and get sensible answers then?

[Willie]

lol....u must be joking....it's a well known fact that all us 'IT' guys do is turn off and turn back on computers all day every day until we loose the will to live....

[philco]

A bit of info for those who are curious..

http://www.kitz.co.uk/adsl/equip2.htm

[philco]

Also some info here on how you can tell which BT RAS your connection is routed through and how you can test your ping times just before they reach your ISP.

http://www.kitz.co.uk/adsl/RAS.htm

[maxping]

As i haven't posted one in ages and this is a newish Ping thread heres todays L8NC Graph.

[Tinfinger]

i get shocking pings most every night no more so than tonight 11/12

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  *****
  2    41 ms    53 ms    41 ms  telehouse-gw-msdp.idnet.net [212.69.63.41]

  3   111 ms   108 ms   113 ms  212.69.63.10

  4   112 ms   117 ms   111 ms  g2-2-501.cr01.hx2.bb.pipex.net [193.203.5.14]

  5   119 ms   125 ms   108 ms  v3953.cr05.tn5.bb.pipex.net [62.72.137.29]

  6   131 ms   115 ms   126 ms  g1-1-6.er01.tn5.bb.pipex.net [62.72.140.142]

  7    80 ms    92 ms    87 ms  ge-0-0-0-3801.jolt-gw.cust.pipex.net [212.241.241.14]

  8   125 ms    91 ms   102 ms  195.149.21.70


had some iff email from   Andrew Erridge  saying
The reason for the bad ping result around hop 3 is because our server configuration dictates ping traffic as low priority. The result is often a high number in this case.

I have spoken with the maintenance team to confirm this, they have also confirmed that at this time there are no known issues on our servers in relation to latency.
I am currently liaising with jolt admin to investigate the response times outside of the initial set of traces.
I will keep you updated on my findings.


correct me if im wrong but games ping also as im getting between 50 and 300 to jolt


i dont mind if they are having problems but i do mind being lied to with well ill not swear explanations

firstly this bad trace starts inside there own network not jolts or my exchange,secondly if ping trafic is limited they are monster short of bandwidth as they are miniscule

note to idnet explain hop 3 for me again??