2700HGV Dual SSID & VoIP

EvilPC · Apr 30, 2008, 08:34:36

Does the 2700 HGV Dual SSID support VoIP services ??

I seem to remember something about this support being built in.. but can't find anything.

I do have a menu option for voice network, but no mention of SIP or VoIP...

Thanks

Rik · Apr 30, 2008, 08:41:20

It should do, but you will need to subscribe to a service, obviously. I've got a single SSID and can set up VOIP on it.

http://192.168.1.254/xslt?PAGE=V03&THISPAGE=A11&NEXTPAGE=V03

EvilPC · Apr 30, 2008, 09:58:08

Thanks Rik.

That takes me to a page to setup the phone lines, but no options for the SIP Service provider...

I've attached an image of what I get.. Am I missing something ??

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EvilPC · Apr 30, 2008, 10:07:14

This link
http://www.the-scream.co.uk/forums/t22658-27.html

Shows how to set the SIP provider.

I'll try this later, then I need someone to call

Rik · Apr 30, 2008, 10:09:53

Your first screen is the one I'd got too. Well done for finding the others (there are too many hidden pages in this router - what else are we missing out on??)

Gary · Apr 30, 2008, 10:11:09

Quote from: Rik on Apr 30, 2008, 10:09:53
Your first screen is the one I'd got too. Well done for finding the others (there are too many hidden pages in this router - what else are we missing out on??)

security patches

Rik · Apr 30, 2008, 10:16:42

Maybe...

Gary · Apr 30, 2008, 10:19:51

I'm just surprised 2wire and BT have not put one out yet Rik,

Rik · Apr 30, 2008, 10:22:18

Would we know if they have, though?

Gary · Apr 30, 2008, 10:32:57

Quote from: Rik on Apr 30, 2008, 10:22:18
Would we know if they have, though?

True, but I'm sure secunia would list a patch maybe, companies seem so slow at patching these days, its the wait till it gets bad then do something about it idea, and in these times that bad

EvilPC · Apr 30, 2008, 10:34:27

I'll try this in a while and let you know how I get on..

Just signed up to sipgate.co.uk for a free account with 0845 number.

Should be fun !!

Rik · Apr 30, 2008, 10:37:00

Keep us posted.

g7pkf · May 01, 2008, 07:14:18

Quote from: EvilPC on Apr 30, 2008, 10:34:27
I'll try this in a while and let you know how I get on..

Just signed up to sipgate.co.uk for a free account with 0845 number.

Should be fun !!

they are one of the best. why did you not go for a local prefix code?

EvilPC · May 01, 2008, 22:03:40

Just felt 0845 hide my location from others

I think I can change it ?? any benefit ??

g7pkf · May 02, 2008, 07:38:34

people can phone you using there inclusive minutes.

0845 tend to be local rate charged at al times.

EvilPC · May 02, 2008, 11:54:40

Good point.

I'll see if I can change it !!

EvilPC · May 02, 2008, 17:10:00

I've changed the 0845 to a local STD number.

Configured the 2700 and it's working fine !!

Sound quality is very good, not much different to a normal PSTN call.

If I try dialling out I get message advising I have no credit, so I've only tested inbound at the moment.
I may add some credit and see how it goes.

SIPGate offer 1,000 UK minutes for £5.90 which doesn't seem to bad !

If anyone else get's it working, email me your number and I'll call you

Rik · May 02, 2008, 17:13:37

Let us know how you get on in the longer term, will you. Does it work with any type of phone, eg DECT?

EvilPC · May 02, 2008, 20:46:10

I just plugged a cheap standard BT phone in with out any issues.

Can't see why a DECT would cause any problem.. It connects to the router the same.
I've used DECT with other hosted IP Services before.. not caused any issues.

Configuration was easy, worked first time. Calls to 0800 numbers are free and a good way to test that everything is working well. Helps to make sure 2 way speech etc.

Rik · May 03, 2008, 09:24:42

Thanks for that/

g7pkf · May 03, 2008, 10:50:25

Quote from: Rik on May 03, 2008, 09:24:42
Thanks for that/

any standard analogue phone will work wired dect etc etc.

only problem sometimes happens if they need the ring wire.

dean

oh and if anyone wants to test sipgate without putting credit on my sipgate number is 9992246

Rik · May 03, 2008, 10:52:39

Quote from: g7pkf on May 03, 2008, 10:50:25
only problem sometimes happens if they need the ring wire.

Is that soluble, Dean?

g7pkf · May 03, 2008, 10:56:48

Quote from: Rik on May 03, 2008, 10:52:39
Is that soluble, Dean?

huh

Rik · May 03, 2008, 10:59:42

The lack of a ring wire, can it be worked around?

g7pkf · May 03, 2008, 11:03:57

depends on the ata design.

with my voipon 7050 it has "dongles" that provide the cap/res to give the ring wire.

most phones under 5 years old its not a problem.

Rik · May 03, 2008, 11:05:45

Thanks, Dean.

Did you really want to advertise your number to the world, btw?

g7pkf · May 03, 2008, 12:54:17

Why not?

I am not ex directory (i am on the tps and fps) and only sipgate users can dial me with my sip id that i have given out.

combine sipgate and this forum and that adds up to a handfull of users.

Just means if someone selling something gets hold of it gives me a call it just gives me the oppertunity to rant down the phone and then rudely hang up.

I have a friend in australia that i met by giving out my sipgate number if he (hes an ex-pat) is having problems with his sipgate line he calls me and asks me to call him back. tests the internet and sipgate to the limits really.

Rik · May 03, 2008, 12:58:59

I had no problems with it, Dean, I just didn't want you to get picked up by spammers...

g7pkf · May 03, 2008, 13:02:28

Quote from: Rik on May 03, 2008, 12:58:59
I had no problems with it, Dean, I just didn't want you to get picked up by spammers...

get loads of that already.

my spam filter works overtime

Rik · May 03, 2008, 13:02:58

How much do you pay it?

g7pkf · May 03, 2008, 13:15:38

Quote from: Rik on May 03, 2008, 13:02:58
How much do you pay it?

same as wife nothing.

Rik · May 03, 2008, 14:29:22

It's probably not letting anything through in that case.

g7pkf · May 03, 2008, 16:26:02

After running tests with EvilPC it seems the 2700 will not let you dial sipgate numbers directly.

It does let you dial my full sipgate number for free though. (01525XXXXXX)

Obviosly this is my full phone number that can be dialled from everyone and i am not willing to put that on a forum.

I will however reply to a pm with it if anyone wants to test a 2700 on sipgate.

call quality seems okay a slight delay on the call (as with any voip call) But hardly noticable.

Me and EvilPC chatted for about 5-10 minutes on it.

Seems we both work in the same line of business.

Think it shocked him when the phone rang HI

regards Dean
G7PKF

Rik · May 03, 2008, 16:27:42

So is there an 'internal' and external number, Dean?

g7pkf · May 03, 2008, 17:03:02

in essence yes.

my sipgate id number is 9992246 to connect to this number via the pstn you dial 01525XXXXXX

to connect via sipgate you can dial this number or dial 9992246 but the 2700 does not allow this number to be dialled (apparently)

i use a fritzbox ata (due to it having 3 analogue lines and multiple voip lines lines) easiest to set up ata (analogue terminal adapter) on the market IMO

Rik · May 03, 2008, 17:04:57

Thanks.

EvilPC · May 03, 2008, 23:22:04

After a little further testing, I get a dead tone as soon as I dial the 3rd digit.
But this only seems to affect numbers beginning with 1 or 9.

So trying to dial the Sipgate test number (10000) fails when I have dialled 100
and trying to call g7pkf fails when I have dialled 999...

May be down to a routing plan that errors when it thinks your trying to call BT services.

Anyone on Sipgate who has a internal number not beginning with 1 or 9 I can try ??

If I try this using Phoner (free SIP Software) it works fine, so it must be downs to the 2700.

The breakout to PSTN feature works OK.. Dial 5 then you get the normal BT dial tone and the calls goes from your standard PSTN number.

kinmel · May 04, 2008, 08:34:32

BT use 0 to give access to the STD system, any other first number is dealt with either at that exchange or by private routing. 1 and 9 are reserved for 3 figure number codes (150, 152, 999, 112 etc)and no public phone number begins with those numbers. The BT router must be limiting them then, have you tried the Singtel firmware?

EvilPC · May 04, 2008, 09:43:43

I haven't tried it.. Do you know if it works with the Dual SSID 2700HGV ?

Sebby · May 04, 2008, 09:52:29

It does, have a read from here.

kinmel · May 04, 2008, 11:14:39

Quote from: EvilPC on May 04, 2008, 09:43:43
I haven't tried it.. Do you know if it works with the Dual SSID 2700HGV ?

Yes it works, I can let you have a copy if you wish - at your own risk of course.

g7pkf · May 04, 2008, 13:15:33

Quote from: EvilPC on May 04, 2008, 09:43:43
I haven't tried it.. Do you know if it works with the Dual SSID 2700HGV ?

ill let you try it, I only have one dual ssid and don't want to brick it particularly.

lots of people have found it to work.

keep us all posted

Montala · Jul 14, 2008, 22:32:27

Interesting thread... you will probably be hearing from me again tomorrow, as I have just received my 'Broadband Talk' details from BT, and have also ordered a phone from Amazon to plug into the last remaining 'socket' on the back of my 2700HGV!

Lance · Jul 15, 2008, 10:27:47

It will be good to know how you get on, Montala! 8)

Montala · Jul 15, 2008, 20:58:05

Well, seeing as you asked, surprisingly painlessly actually. (I always fear the worst!)

My first task was to decide which phone to buy, and although it didn't have to be a DECT phone, I wanted one which was advertised as being VoIP compatible, but I didn't want a 'mains powered' model. (No free available sockets) It had to have a handsfree 'speakerphone' facility, and be finished in either black or silver (not white!)... aren't I fussy!

Anyway the model I finally decided upon was the BT Decor 1300, which duly arrived this morning. (Thanks Amazon!)

Yesterday I had filled in my details on BT's broadband talk pages, and received an email within a few hours advising me that my new service was ready to be activated, and informing me of my 'new' (local) telephone number. I was actually quite impressed! I also received a second email an hour later confirming my order (FREE!), and a further one confirming my pasword.

Anyway, this morning I duly plugged the phone into the splitter lead on the back of my 2700HGV, watched the green light on the front come on, flash for a short time and then turn itself off in disgust... something obviously need activating here, I thought to myself, so as BT is actually (currently) my ISP, I opened up their business broadband / broadband talk page (I am NOT a business customer incidentally) and duly entered in my new number, user name and password (I think!).

Again I was quite surprised when a small window popped up saying 'Configuration Successful' and a solid green light appeared on the front of my hub. A quick call to an 0800 number confirmed that it was in fact working, and the dial tone changed to the 'standard' tone when I pressed 5.

I know I shouldn't be surprised that it all seemed to work as expected, but I was... so there you go... one happy customer... well for the moment anyway!

Sebby · Jul 15, 2008, 21:06:27

Great stuff. Glad it all worked out well.

Rik · Jul 16, 2008, 10:30:51

Sometimes, technology surprises us by doing what it should. Rare though.

Lance · Jul 17, 2008, 12:41:42

Great stuff!

Montala · Jul 17, 2008, 13:01:37

Yes indeed... another quite handy feature I have found is that if that even when the hub is turned off, the phone can still be used as a 'standard' phone, to make (or receive) calls... although not obviously VoIP!

blue.angel · Mar 19, 2009, 10:16:53

The BT supplied 2700HGV hubs are often referred to as 'single' or 'dual' SSID models. This refers to whether the label on the rear of the hub has two SSID

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Rik · Mar 19, 2009, 10:19:41

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