FF3

[madasahatter]

Stand by your beds - FF3 is ready for official launch

[somanyholes]

think i'll lie on the bed instead its a long wait 

[Inactive]

No point now Mad', we are all doomed anyway .. 

[madasahatter]

think i'll lie on the bed instead its a long wait 

Trust you 

No point now Mad', we are all doomed anyway .. 

That's true - too late for us all

[Rik]

It's not too late, I've only just had lunch.

[Ted]

Stand by your beds - FF3 is ready for official launch

I hope its better than the latest RC. Very flakey, i went back to using 2xxx

[doc_holiday]

I hope its better than the latest RC. Very flakey, i went back to using 2xxx

I'm going to hold off.  I have been burned too many times with having to wait until my favourite plugins get updated for the new version.   

[Sebby]

I hope its better than the latest RC. Very flakey, i went back to using 2xxx

That's not my experience; it's been great since the first beta for me.

[Baz]

is this also linked to the world record attempt for  downloads in a day thing we had  posted a while back

[Sebby]

Yep.

[Simon]

I hope they've got enough server power to deliver it!

[Sebby]

It would be ironic if they couldn't cope when they are the ones who have encouraged it!

[Ted]

That's not my experience; it's been great since the first beta for me.

Mine is on Linux so i can't compare it to Windows on this machine. It has a real problem with online media, video and such like. Just shuts down instantly with no warning It also seems to have a problem with refreshing some web pages, same problem. Its not just a one off, i can reproduce it again and again.
Absolutely no problem with 2xxx. I made a bug report to Mozilla, lets hope it comes out in the wash

[Sebby]

Ah, well I'd blame Linux in that case.

[Dangerjunkie]

I've been running FF3 Beta 5 and now FF3.0 on Linux and 3B5 on Windows for over a month now and I've had no problems at all. This tends to suggest it may be something to do with a library or DLL otherwise we would all be affected the same.

Cheers,
Paul.

[Sebby]

Out of interest, how come you've avoided the RCs?

[Ted]

I've been running FF3 Beta 5 and now FF3.0 on Linux and 3B5 on Windows for over a month now and I've had no problems at all. This tends to suggest it may be something to do with a library or DLL otherwise we would all be affected the same.

Cheers,
Paul.

This is 3.0rc2, could be a library or some such but it would have to be one that 2xxx doesn't need because that works fine.
I'll wait and see what the full release is like, if it still needs fixing i'll get on it then

[Dangerjunkie]

Out of interest, how come you've avoided the RCs?

To be honest I probably didn't. I installed the Ubuntu Hardy supplied 3B5 and it's gone through a number of automatic updates since then. The current version says it is 3.0 (The Beta tag is gone and there is no mention of  RC) if I do help>about. If I look at the package manager it is declared as version: 3.0+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.04.1 whatever exactly that is...

Cheers,
Paul.

[Sebby]

I'm running RC2 on Windows and the about information also doesn't mention RC, so I suspect you're right.

[Lona]

What is RC? 

Only thing I can think si Roman Catholic but I'm sure it's not that.

[Sebby]

RC is Release Candidate. When a piece of software is at this stage, it signifies that it's got the potential to be a final product, and will be unless any major bugs are found.

[D-Dan]

I got my email reminder to D/L teh final version on 17th earlier today. So, I guess since they know where I am, I better do so - at precisely Midnight following the end of 16th

[Sebby]

I got it too. Unfortunately, I won't be able to download it on Tuesday!

[scook94]

It won't be released until 10:00 PDT which I think is 7 hours behind us, so not out until 5pm?

[Sebby]

Not sure, but I haven't had the email yet.

[Danni]

I have kept my email reminder in my inbox, to remind me, but want to download it so I can get my inbox down to zero messages again.

[D-Dan]

As I type this - the FF download page has gone from V2 - to cut down - to unavailable. I'm guessing the update for FF3 final is now. Stand by your beds - I'm aiming to be DL No 1

Steve

Edit: Scratch that - it came back still offering V2 or V3 RC3.

Wonder how long until I get fed up hitting "Refresh"?

[Rik]

I keep getting timed out.

[D-Dan]

I keep getting timed out.

Ahhh - the joys of IDNet supermax sneak in around everyone else package (or whatever it's called). I suddenly feel the extra £10 per month is worth it

[scook94]

Well I got fed up waiting for Mozilla to fix their "technical issues" and downloaded FF3 form here-

http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/3.0/

Of course after I installed it most of my add-ons failed. I hacked "Mr Tech Local Install" add-on and then used it's "make all compatible" function.

If you want to participate in Download Day then I'd suggest that
a) Wait for the links on the websites to work as I'm led to believe that a download from the link above won't count
b) If you're not keen on hacking your extensions wait a while for the extension writers to catch up before installing FF3.

[Rik]

When I did get to the site, it offered me v2 anyway!

[D-Dan]

Well - after 20 minutes of refresh - FF3 just downloaded from the official download - I must be in the top 10 first

Now - do I go ahead and install it lol.

Steve

[scook94]

Depends how many add-ons you have and if you dont mind losing them....

[Sebby]

I'd say do it, Steve.

[D-Dan]

LOL - Immediately after posting the message - I did. The only addons that I use and don't work are fasterfox (which I guess is somewhat redundant now anyway) - and my theme - arghhhh - I love that Noia Extreme theme.

Not to be outdone, and positively hating the default theme, I found something a little more pleasing on my eye to keep me going until I find another that I love (or Noia is updated).

And I don't know if it's the rose tinteds - but images look a little more vibrant, too.

Other than that - first impressions (sort of - I had FF3 RC forced upon me in Ubuntu, and installed one of the later RCs on PC2 anyway) - well, it's firefox. 'nuff said

Steve

[Sebby]

I really think it's a massive improvement over FF2.

[madasahatter]

I think I'm gonna leave it a couple of weeks or so and let you guinea pigs iron out all the bugs 

[Simon]

Firefox 3 Download Day falls flat on face

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/06/17/firefox_3_debuts/

I won't say I told you so, but... 

I hope they've got enough server power to deliver it!

[D-Dan]

Oddly - although the register article talks about FF fanboys - it reads very much like an Opera fanboy article.

I have to say, I have nothing against Opera. I tried it - and I didn't like it, but I'm not going to criticise others who may.

What does get my goat, is that The Register isn't what it used to be. I remember the days when you could rely (albeit if you searched) on objective information, which sadly, seems to be leaving them.

Steve

[Lona]

I LOVE IT.

[Niall]

That register article was clearly posted by an Opera fanboy, with all the journalistic integrity of a bribed games reviewer.

I've only just remembered about this FF3, and it looks like they're still having issues as the built in updater is having problems getting anything. I want FF3

[scook94]

I LOVE IT.

Me too. I'd been using the trunk builds for FF3 on my old laptop (before I got it replaced) so nothing came as a surprise to me.

It may be my imagination but pages do seem to be loading faster...

[scook94]

That register article was clearly posted by an Opera fanboy, with all the journalistic integrity of a bribed games reviewer.

I've only just remembered about this FF3, and it looks like they're still having issues as the built in updater is having problems getting anything. I want FF3

I think I read on one of the Mozilla forums that the autoupdater won't work for a few days yet. If you want FF3 try downloading from the link http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/?p=downloadday

[Simon]

It's probably just best to hang on for a couple of days.  It was a ridiculous idea anyway, trying to get everyone to download it at the same time, and it's now become as embarrassing for them as T5 was to British Airways.

[scook94]

LOL - Immediately after posting the message - I did. The only addons that I use and don't work are fasterfox (which I guess is somewhat redundant now anyway) - and my theme - arghhhh - I love that Noia Extreme theme.

Not to be outdone, and positively hating the default theme, I found something a little more pleasing on my eye to keep me going until I find another that I love (or Noia is updated).

And I don't know if it's the rose tinteds - but images look a little more vibrant, too.

Other than that - first impressions (sort of - I had FF3 RC forced upon me in Ubuntu, and installed one of the later RCs on PC2 anyway) - well, it's firefox. 'nuff said

Steve

Steve,
I've hacked the Noia jar file to make it FF3 compatible, you can download it here
http://scook94.www.idnet.com/noia_2.0__extreme_-3.38-fx.jar

Let me know if it does the trick for you...

[Sebby]

Mozilla have made themselves look really silly. If they'1e going to do something like this, at least have enough capacity in place.

[D-Dan]

Steve,
I've hacked the Noia jar file to make it FF3 compatible, you can download it here
http://scook94.www.idnet.com/noia_2.0__extreme_-3.38-fx.jar

Let me know if it does the trick for you...

First look - seems good. Thank you very much

Edit - though the address box is too narrow. If I knew how to fix it, I would. Any chance of an update?

Steve

[scook94]

I noticed that too, all I did was edit the install.rdf file to reflect FF3, for the rest you'll have to wait for the author to update!

[D-Dan]

Mozilla have made themselves look really silly. If they'1e going to do something like this, at least have enough capacity in place.

Since this is a new record that they are trying to set, rather than an existing record to beat, as long as they have a lot of capacity then they are good.

Now, if it all goes tits up after the first couple of hundred downloads, then they have a problem.

Steve

[D-Dan]

I noticed that too, all I did was edit the install.rdf file to reflect FF3, for the rest you'll have to wait for the author to update!

The odd thing is, the buttons etc are very slightly oversized, so they go outside of the boundaries of the toolbar by just 3 or 4 pixels - but I actually quite like that. It adds a little character.

Steve

[Sebby]

Hopefully things should start being updated officially now.

[Gary]

Mozilla have made themselves look really silly. If they'1e going to do something like this, at least have enough capacity in place.

Have to agree with you there sebby, had a few crashes but I do like it compared with FF2

[Gary]

Hopefully things should start being updated officially now.

I created a new profile as I had some issues with the update process, seems ok for now

[scook94]

Just curious, how many have a green "forward" and "back" button and how many have blue?

My Vista PC has the blue buttons, but my XP laptop has green....

[Danni]

The Firefox 3 installed with Hardy Heron (that had updates this morning) has green. I'll check my downloaded one (it's downloading fine now if anyone wants to get it- the Americans are mostly asleep!).

Green on my downloaded version too. Shame- I prefer blue (and it fits better with my purple theme ).

[scook94]

Danni, I'm wondering if it's OS related, are you using XP or Vista?

[Danni]

Kubuntu Linux

[Sebby]

It probably is OS-related. I know of other apps that are certainly affected.

[vitriol]

Downloaded and installed.  My usual extensions and themes don't work however, but that's no big deal.

Found and installed a theme I like, "Aero Silver Fox Basic".  That'll do untill more themes become available.  I like the most visited folder and the one click bookmarks.

Overall so far very nice.

[Gary]

Well I removed FF3 today after a flourish of DEP pop ups and a bunch of crashes, that's on a clean profile, I'll wait as while to see how it goes, for now FF2 will suffice

[Lona]

Just curious, how many have a green "forward" and "back" button and how many have blue?

My Vista PC has the blue buttons, but my XP laptop has green....

I'm running Vista and my bottons are blue.  I have the jumbo theme and it's great I can read everything without my glasses. 

[Baz]

so if you get the new FF do some/all of any add ons you have not work?

are there any add ons ready for FF3

[Lona]

All my addons work and it's never gave me any problems so far

[scook94]

so if you get the new FF do some/all of any add ons you have not work?

are there any add ons ready for FF3

depends on which ones you have, some will work some won't. In most cases it's only because the add-on has it's maxversion limited to FF2.

You can install Mr Tech Local install from here (I modified it to install under FF3)
http://scook94.www.idnet.com/mr_tech_local_install.xpi

Once it's installed go to the add-ons under Tools and when the window appears click Tools -> Make all compatible
Restart FF3 and all your add-ons should be okay, mine certainly are using this method.

[drummer]

Just posted in the Opera thread using Opera 9.5 and am now posting this using Firefox 3.

No real problems in either except that my preferred theme (Orbit) isn't yet available for Firefox 3 and NoScript doesn't work yet.

I can live with that as everything else seems to be working normally.

[Ray]

No real problems in either except that my preferred theme (Orbit) isn't yet available for Firefox 3 and NoScript doesn't work yet.

That's strange, Drummer, it is working OK for me, which version of NoScript are you using? I am using version 1.6.9.3 it updated to this when I installed FF3. 

[Noreen]

A news item that may interest you people. http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/06/18/technology/17firefox.php

[Rik]

Who knows what they might have achieved if they'd put the server resources in before launch?

[Sebby]

That's quite an achievement. As you say, Rik, it would be interesting to know how many downloads they lost as a result of not having the resources in place.

[drummer]

That's strange, Drummer, it is working OK for me, which version of NoScript are you using? I am using version 1.6.9.3 it updated to this when I installed FF3. 

Oops...

Firefox just needed to be restarted.  And it's version 1.6.9.3 here too.

[Ray]

Good to hear it is now sorted, Drummer. 

[Niall]

I think I read on one of the Mozilla forums that the autoupdater won't work for a few days yet. If you want FF3 try downloading from the link http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/?p=downloadday

Oops I forgot about this post. I actually went and tried the site itself just after posting and it updated fine. I went to bed and forgot to mention it

[Lona]

Only thing I've noticed is there is no padlock showing when are paying for stuff or in your internet bank.

I'm sure there was a padlock on older version.

[Rik]

I'd be more than a bit uncomfortable about that - does the address bar go yellow?

[Ted]

Only thing I've noticed is there is no padlock showing when are paying for stuff or in your internet bank.

I'm sure there was a padlock on older version.

Just checked on Paypal.com using FF3 and the padlock was there on the status bar, bottom , right hand corner.

[vitriol]

just logged into my bank account to see.

In the bottom right corner of the browser there is an orange padlock, if you click on it it gives you some information about the secure connection.

[Lona]

I've tried paypal and my bank and nowhere on the browser can I see the padlock.

[scook94]

I've tried paypal and my bank and nowhere on the browser can I see the padlock.

How does the address in the URL bar begin? https? or http?

I've checked mine and the padlock is there.

[Sebby]

It's there on mine too, Lona.

[Lona]

How does the address in the URL bar begin? https? or http?

I've checked mine and the padlock is there.

https for both bank and paypal but where the padlock used to be it is now a yellow star which saves to bookmarks

[Lona]

I've just discovered that status bar was unticked in View.

It must have been ticked by default in version 2.

Got my padlock back now. That had me a bit worried.

[Simon]

[Sebby]

Good to hear.

[D-Dan]

Going back a couple of pages - an official (beta) version of the Noia Extreme theme for FF3 has been released.

http://kasteo.deviantart.com/art/Noia-2-0-eXtreme-For-Firefox-4266778?offset=20

Steve

[somanyholes]

maybe of interest

lifehackers firefox tag page, allsorts of juicy info.

http://lifehacker.com/tag/firefox/

[Simon]

Thanks, So.  God, I wish there were more hours in the day, so I could read all this stuff!   

[Lance]

I know what you mean, Simon!

[scook94]

FWIW the first update/bug fix to FF3 is due in a couple of weeks....

http://wiki.mozilla.org/Releases/Firefox_3.0.1

[Rik]

Thanks, Steve. 

[kinmel]

Thanks, So.  God, I wish there were more hours in the day, so I could read all this stuff!  

That's the beauty of being retired - there is enough time 

[Rik]

Hear, hear.

[scook94]

Received a mail from Mozilla regarding Download Day....

We did it!

We set a Guinness World Record for the most software downloads in 24 hours. With your help we reached 8,002,530 downloads.

You are now part of a World Record and the proud owner of the best version of Firefox yet!

Don't forget to download your very own certificate for helping set a Guinness World Record.

[Sebby]

I got that too.

[vitriol]

hooray for FF3 !!!

Been using it since launch day and I love it.