General software updates

[Gary]

New version of CCleaner available. http://www.ccleaner.com/download/builds

Cheers Noreen 

[Rik]

MS just informed me that an important update was available to be installed, when I checked it was IE8. I haven't installed it yet, think that I'll wait for a while.

They're pushing it hard just now. 

[Noreen]

I have read some good reports about IE8 especially its security however I've also read of some people having problems. Anyway I've blocked it for now until the dust settles.

[Rik]

That's my view too, especially as I won't be using it.

[Den]

I just love this attitude Rik, I have not tried it so I wont try it because I wont like it. Try it you might be surprised. 

[Gary]

I'm not sure, but I'll see if I can find out.

It would be interesting to know Sebby, gives the forum a real time look at the two systems and thats better than any reviews online 

[Sebby]

They're pushing it hard just now. 

In fairness, I think it's better than IE7.

[Gary]

Superantispyare 4.26.1002 released

Changelog as below

Definition server connection enhancements
· Enhanced Vundo detection/removal
· Updated technology to handle the hi-jacked USERINIT.EXE
· Numerous technology additions to the scanning engine to deal with new rootkit infections
· Enhanced Diagnostic Abilities

[Gary]

In fairness, I think it's better than IE7.

Its a big improvement Sebby, one of the privacy features as I am sure you read blocks things like googlesyndication etc so you are not traced around the net as you go, the coloured tabs are great and private browsing is useful, yes you can get add ons for FF to do these things but when they come complete its better and less bloated than having dozens of add ons, also in Vista and 7 its in protected mode and does block clickjacking etc as well, MS have tried hard, yes it needs a download manager and sadly its IE so will have a stigma but I quite like it its fast enough renders ok for me and right now its probably he safest browser out there, that will I am sure change but it is a different beast, and even though FF is my default for me to find myself using it is a surprise to myself. Peopel should try it and at least have it onboard, since IE is so much a part of the OS its going to increase your safety overall on Windows. If you install it properly with you AV off and antispyware off it works just fine.

[JB]

one of the privacy features as I am sure you read blocks things like googlesyndication

Is this the same thing as Google Analytics which sometimes holds up your browsing whilst waiting to 'call home'?

[Gary]

Is this the same thing as Google Analytics which sometimes holds up your browsing whilst waiting to 'call home'?

Yep it is, it blocks that as well.

[Rik]

I just love this attitude Rik, I have not tried it so I wont try it because I wont like it. Try it you might be surprised. 

Not quite, Den, I won't try it because I'm perfectly happy with Firefox and see no need to change.

[sparky]

There was a lot of problems with IE8 Beta and online banking.

It didn't work with Nat West.  Anyone used it with HSBC or Nat West ??

I guess the only way is to try it, but can you backtrack to IE7 if it doesn't work?

[Rik]

I don't know, tbh, Sparky.

[Lance]

Hi Sparky. You can indeed uninstall IE8 and revert to IE7 - someone else on the forum has already done just that! See the thread here.

[sparky]

Sorry guys,

Just seen the other post "Rolling Back to IE7". (its early in the day for me !!)

[Rik]

NP.

[cavillas]

I find IE8 much better than the other browsers now but I still use firefox for its sidemap and flash video downloader.  Many problems with IE8 have been caused because Spybot (if used) puts lts entries into the hosts file and this can cause IE8 to have problems opening tabs and going to some sites.  By reverting to the plain vanilla hosts file these problems clear up.

[Gary]

I find IE8 much better than the other browsers now but I still use firefox for its sidemap and flash video downloader.  Many problems with IE8 have been caused because Spybot (if used) puts lts entries into the hosts file and this can cause IE8 to have problems opening tabs and going to some sites.  By reverting to the plain vanilla hosts file these problems clear up.

To be honest Alf the injection method of defence like spybots and even spywareblaster is getting to less effective as time goes on, AV's and browsers seem perfectly capable of doing that without the extra clutter of adding to the restricted zone in IE or putting thousands of cookies to avoid into FF.

[Ray]

IE8 came down automatically on to the WHS

It's just installed on mine this morning, Steve, and it breaks the Advanced Admin Console addin if you are using it. 

[Lance]

IMO a server shouldn't have a web browser installed at all!

[Rik]

It shouldn't, and I can't understand the logic of doing it. Possibly it's required for updates?

[Ray]

I agree, Lance, I suspect, you could be right, Rik, it was certainly throwing a red Network Health Critical error until it had been installed, reports on the WGS Homeserver forum seem to indicate that if you remove it you still get the red error warning all the time. 

[Lance]

It shouldn't, and I can't understand the logic of doing it. Possibly it's required for updates?

Windows Vista doesn't use a web browser for updates though, and surely updates could be downloaded on another machine and pushed/pulled accross the network as exe files? 

[Rik]

I'd agree, Lance, it's the only possible reason I could see for having it, though.