New Netgear DG834G V5

[Rik]

I'm sure all will be revealed soon, Paul.

[psp83]

I'm looking for a good router that has qos! my dg834G v3 doesn't have it!

[Rik]

Watch this space.

[Gary]

Well when I get it I'll let you know should be Thursday, the v4 has QOS and WDS via an update,

[wingers]

yes it has QoS, worked okay on my line and living out in the country it tends to be a cr*p service and the router seemed to cope fine, wifi I had no issues with although must say I spend most time using a computer which is cabled and not wireless

[Gary]

Well first impressions of performance of v5 is a bit hazy, its faster at recovering from loss of sync (pulled the cable it re synced amazingly fast) the wifi on off button is great and proper QoS you can access is brilliant. Resetting the unit is now by holding down the wifi and wds buttons at the same time on top, so much easier and the off/on is on the back and is a press button setup, but my model still has beta software and has GUI bugs and I experienced a drop of sync speed of 1mb/s which is not great, the model still needs to be placed vertically as it heats up, when a firmware update to release candidate firmware comes online I'll update and post more, I would say with a firmware update the unit would be very promising and much faster than V4 in browsing and dealing in loss of sync events/Dos attacks than present models and with QoS you can edit the priority of, a great piece of kit.

[Rik]

Interesting, thanks, Gary. 

[Inactive]

Thanks for the info Gary, looks promising.

[Gary]

Interesting, thanks, Gary. 

Once Netgear post the firmware online for the release unit I can update and then give a proper review, the unit is much more responsive, but with beta firmware its not really a good test, I think they have gone for a different type of broadcom chipset as well, the information is vastly different as far as what the unit shows, it lists events to minutes and seconds as well, and the firmware codes are vastly different from the V4. In all aspects its more responsive in fact the fastest router I have used to date in dealing with events and initial set-up, just need to have release firmware for a proper test

[Gary]

Thanks for the info Gary, looks promising.

Will keep you all posted one I can update

[Simon]

Do, thanks Gary.  I'd certainly be interested to see how these perform against the 2700. 

[madasahatter]

I'm still running on a v1!!!!

[Rik]

If it works, why worry.

[madasahatter]

If it works, why worry.

Exactly 

[Rik]

Life's so much simpler if we don't chase the latest and greatest if the current version is doing the job. Take XP, for example.

[madasahatter]

Life's so much simpler if we don't chase the latest and greatest if the current version is doing the job. Take XP, for example.

now.... where's my hoobyhammer? 

[Rik]

In your hooby toolbox? 

[madasahatter]

In your hooby toolbox? 

Nope - never that neat and tidy me 

[Gary]

Life's so much simpler if we don't chase the latest and greatest if the current version is doing the job. Take XP, for example.

Id rather not Rik

[orainsear]

proper QoS you can access is brilliant

Hi, I wonder if you could elaborate a bit more on the QoS features; I've been looking at the DG834G v5 on the netgear.com web site and the specifications do not mention anything at all about QoS.   Would it be possible for you to post a screencap of the configuration screen?  Can you confirm if the QoS works for both wired and wireless connections, and have you used it at all yet?

Edit:
Also is it possible to telnet to the v5/use dmt tool to modify the target SNR margin?

[Gary]

If it works, why worry.

Would not work on Adsl2+ so I would have to change it Im just interested in turning wifi off and the router without pulling plugs or going into settings, but to be honest if the V5 formware does not improve its performance I'm happy with my V4, saying that the new DNG2000 is a n draft router with the same wifi off and on features and power off in the same form as the DG834G but with twin aerials auto update of firmware and improved firewall features, that may be the way to go in the future for me, the test unit I have did not cost much so its fun to play with but not for every day use at this time.

[Gary]

Hi, I wonder if you could elaborate a bit more on the QoS features; I've been looking at the DG834G v5 on the netgear.com web site and the specifications do not mention anything at all about QoS.   Would it be possible for you to post a screencap of the configuration screen?  Can you confirm if the QoS works for both wired and wireless connections, and have you used it at all yet?

Cant post a screen shot as its not being used at this time if you don't believe me you could try googling and get the info that way, all netgears DG834G's after V3  with the latest updates have QoS they are just hidden so you cannot edit the feature unless you telnet in on the V4 and GT, the v5 has this as a separate and configurable feature, when I used it, it worked fine it had options for all the major games and programs and you can edit and delete as you want and assign priority.

"Added support for Wi-Fi Protected Access Version 2 (WPA2) which supports either AES or TKIP encryption types. WPA2 is now the most secure security option available and should be used if your equipment supports it. The various security options can be selected on the Wireless Settings page under Security Options.
Added support for Wi-Fi Multimedia Quality of Service (WMM QoS) to prioritize wireless voice and video traffic. WMM QoS is a feature that provides prioritization of wireless data packets from different applications based on four access categories: voice, video, best effort, and background. For an application to receive the benefits of WMM QoS, both it and the client running that application must be WMM-enabled. Legacy applications that do not support WMM, and applications that do not require QoS, are assigned to the best-effort category, which receives a lower priority than voice and video. WMM QoS is enabled automatically"

http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/archive/index.php/t-63277.html

[Simon]

orainsear, and have a welcome Karma.  I'm sure what Gary (Killhippie) says is correct, and there will be a lot more chat about these when they become more widely available.  We may even have a dedicated board for it, on a temporary basis, if there's enough interest. 

[orainsear]

Thanks.  I don't doubt what's being said, I'm just wondering if it's at all like the QoS implementation in the WNR2000 (WNR2000 user guide).  Although it's not an ADSL router the QoS sounds similar to that described for the DG834G v5.  Hopefully it will make it's way into the DGN2000 firmware.

[Gary]

Thanks.  I don't doubt what's being said, I'm just wondering if it's at all like the QoS implementation in the WNR2000 (WNR2000 user guide).  Although it's not an ADSL router the QoS sounds similar to that described for the DG834G v5.  Hopefully it will make it's way into the DGN2000 firmware.

Has the WNR2000 not got a separate setting for editing QoS? Since its such a new router I would have thought it may, if not I wonder why there is such inconsistency across products sometimes, check the DGN2000 out I think that has the seperate setting as well