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Title: firefox 3
Post by: Baz on Nov 15, 2008, 14:02:24
do you know in FF3 if you can disable that Smart Location Bar which guesses what you want as you are typing in the address bar. I dont like it so far.
Title: Re: firefox 3
Post by: Glenn on Nov 15, 2008, 14:18:18
Try this Baz http://bbayles.googlepages.com/disable_slb.html
Title: Re: firefox 3
Post by: Rik on Nov 15, 2008, 14:31:32
Nice link, Glenn.  :thumb:
Title: Re: firefox 3
Post by: Baz on Nov 15, 2008, 15:45:27
yeah good link thanks Glenn.

heres another one for you then :) when I opened FF3 after using FF2  I had quite a few bookmarks missing. Use FF2 again and they are still there  :dunno:
Title: Re: firefox 3
Post by: Rik on Nov 15, 2008, 15:48:56
How did you moved to bookmarks to FF3?
Title: Re: firefox 3
Post by: Baz on Nov 15, 2008, 15:51:25
bookmarks were imported from IE to FF2 originally Rik. I just thought that they would be all there when upgrading to FF3
Title: Re: firefox 3
Post by: Inactive on Nov 15, 2008, 15:52:44
Strange Baz, I never lost any in the transition, all went over automatically. ???
Title: Re: firefox 3
Post by: Rik on Nov 15, 2008, 15:53:40
I take it you didn't install over FF2 from what you say, Baz, so did you do anything specific within FF3 to import the bookmarks, or let it do its thing?
Title: Re: firefox 3
Post by: Glenn on Nov 15, 2008, 15:53:53
Are the bookmarks in the same location for FF3 as 2, by that I mean is FF3 pointing to the same dir as the bookmarks for ff2?
Title: Re: firefox 3
Post by: Glenn on Nov 15, 2008, 15:54:50
http://mozilla.gunnars.net/firefox_bookmarks_tutorial.html
Title: Re: firefox 3
Post by: Baz on Nov 15, 2008, 15:56:50
Quote from: Rik on Nov 15, 2008, 15:53:40
I take it you didn't install over FF2 from what you say, Baz, so did you do anything specific within FF3 to import the bookmarks, or let it do its thing?

just let it do itself
Title: Re: firefox 3
Post by: Rik on Nov 15, 2008, 15:57:54
It would be worth following Glenn's link, then, and importing your v2 set.
Title: Re: firefox 3
Post by: Baz on Nov 15, 2008, 15:58:30
Quote from: Glenn on Nov 15, 2008, 15:53:53
Are the bookmarks in the same location for FF3 as 2, by that I mean is FF3 pointing to the same dir as the bookmarks for ff2?

dont know about that Glenn, how will I find out. I have FF2 and FF3 in seperate folders when I downloaded FF3 incase I wanted to go back to FF2
Title: Re: firefox 3
Post by: kinmel on Nov 15, 2008, 16:05:51
FF3 has a totally new method of storing bookmarks.

The easiest method of transferring them is to install the Febe extension on both versions then backup bookmarks for FF2 and restore them into FF3.

In fact use Febe to copy all your settings and preferences across.
Title: Re: firefox 3
Post by: Rik on Nov 15, 2008, 16:06:36
I second the FEBE recommendation, Alan. Excellent addon.
Title: Re: firefox 3
Post by: Baz on Nov 15, 2008, 16:09:13
ooooo..that sounds good and easy. off to look now  ;D.........


but the latest version doesnt work with FF2. an older one is available, will that do?
Title: Re: firefox 3
Post by: Glenn on Nov 15, 2008, 16:18:36
Does the import button on FF3 import from FF2? If not then export your bookmarks from FF2 to a file, then import into FF3 from that file.
Title: Re: firefox 3
Post by: Rik on Nov 15, 2008, 16:26:04
Quote from: Baz on Nov 15, 2008, 16:09:13
but the latest version doesnt work with FF2. an older one is available, will that do?

It should do, Baz, or do what Glenn suggests.
Title: Re: firefox 3
Post by: kinmel on Nov 15, 2008, 16:34:21
Quote from: Baz on Nov 15, 2008, 16:09:13
ooooo..that sounds good and easy. off to look now  ;D.........


but the latest version doesnt work with FF2. an older one is available, will that do?

It seems that Febe doesn't migrate data between FF2 and FF3, sorry about that  :blush:

Here is guidance on the Febe Forum (http://www.customsoftwareconsult.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1053)
Title: Re: firefox 3
Post by: Baz on Nov 15, 2008, 18:40:37
No worrys Alan. Ive blagged my way through it now ;D exported FF2 bookmarks then just imported into V3 after deleting the ones already there. dont understand whyit didnt work first time.  :dunno:
Title: Re: firefox 3
Post by: Baz on Nov 15, 2008, 18:52:14
back to the Smart Location Bar.........found this (http://www.downloadsquad.com/2008/06/17/dont-think-the-firefox-3-awesome-bar-is-awesome-heres-how-t/) thats tells you how to turn it off. it works too.

Thanks all  :thumb:
Title: Re: firefox 3
Post by: Rik on Nov 16, 2008, 10:36:02
Thanks, Baz.  :thumb:
Title: Re: firefox 3
Post by: Simon on Nov 16, 2008, 12:33:12
I don't know why they had to change the file formats with FF3.  It was so easy before, as you could just copy and paste stuff from one profile to another.  :dunno:
Title: Re: firefox 3
Post by: Rik on Nov 16, 2008, 12:36:59
It's something which software developers seem to revel in, sadly. :(
Title: Re: firefox 3
Post by: kinmel on Nov 16, 2008, 16:13:13
Quote from: Simon on Nov 16, 2008, 12:33:12
I don't know why they had to change the file formats with FF3.  It was so easy before, as you could just copy and paste stuff from one profile to another.  :dunno:

It seems that the developers thought the SQLite database and Json were much more secure , except for the FF3 addon SQLmanager which gives complete access to the databases. Go figure.

The Sqlite databases made it easier to develop the AWesome (Awful) bar apparently.
Title: Re: firefox 3
Post by: Sebby on Nov 16, 2008, 17:37:50
Quote from: Simon on Nov 16, 2008, 12:33:12
I don't know why they had to change the file formats with FF3.  It was so easy before, as you could just copy and paste stuff from one profile to another.  :dunno:

There must be a reason. Mozilla don't strike me as the kind of developer that changes things for the sake of it, though software developers do tend to be unpredictable. :P
Title: Re: firefox 3
Post by: Rik on Nov 16, 2008, 17:39:34
Improved security, at a guess?
Title: Re: firefox 3
Post by: Sebby on Nov 16, 2008, 17:40:19
Yep, most probably. :)

Are you still running FF2, out of interest, Rik?
Title: Re: firefox 3
Post by: Rik on Nov 16, 2008, 17:40:54
Yup. I guess I'll have to make the move soon. :)
Title: Re: firefox 3
Post by: Sebby on Nov 16, 2008, 17:49:14
I think you should. The time feels right. ;)
Title: Re: firefox 3
Post by: Rik on Nov 16, 2008, 17:52:26
The time is never right. ;)
Title: Re: firefox 3
Post by: Sebby on Nov 16, 2008, 17:53:13
:hug:
Title: Re: firefox 3
Post by: Rik on Nov 16, 2008, 17:54:21
 :kiss:

Is the consensus to install over or go for a separate install, btw?
Title: Re: firefox 3
Post by: Sebby on Nov 16, 2008, 17:54:54
IIRC, I just installed over the top and had no issues. :)
Title: Re: firefox 3
Post by: Rik on Nov 16, 2008, 17:55:32
Thanks.  :thumb:
Title: Re: firefox 3
Post by: Simon on Nov 16, 2008, 19:38:17
If you overlay it on top of FF2, it will import all your settings.  :)
Title: Re: firefox 3
Post by: Lance on Nov 16, 2008, 22:35:02
Plus, knowing you Rik, if it goes wrong you can simply revert to one of your numerous back-ups!
Title: Re: firefox 3
Post by: Inactive on Nov 17, 2008, 00:16:55
Quote from: Sebby on Nov 16, 2008, 17:54:54
IIRC, I just installed over the top and had no issues. :)

Same here, no issues at all. :thumb:
Title: Re: firefox 3
Post by: Ray on Nov 17, 2008, 08:51:22
A word of warning if you are using the Yahoo Toolbar Add in on Firefox 3 don't install the latest update to the Add in it crashes Firefox on start up.
Title: Re: firefox 3
Post by: Rik on Nov 17, 2008, 09:33:34
Useful to know, Ray.  :thumb:

Thanks everyone.  :)
Title: Re: firefox 3
Post by: Sebby on Nov 17, 2008, 12:56:31
Quote from: Sheltieuk on Nov 17, 2008, 08:51:22
A word of warning if you are using the Yahoo Toolbar Add in on Firefox 3 don't install the latest update to the Add in it crashes Firefox on start up.

Shouldn't that be, "a word of warning if you're using the Yahoo Toolbar: don't!" ;D :out:
Title: Re: firefox 3
Post by: Rik on Nov 17, 2008, 13:00:40
 ;D

Good point, Seb. :)
Title: Re: firefox 3
Post by: Ray on Nov 17, 2008, 13:03:02
Quote from: Sebby on Nov 17, 2008, 12:56:31
Shouldn't that be, "a word of warning if you're using the Yahoo Toolbar: don't!" ;D :out:

I don't usually, Sebby, I'd tried it in the past and disabled it, but it got it's self on a list of updates when I started Firefox this morning and I'd hit the update button before I'd noticed it lurking at the end of the list. It won't bother me again it's now been un-installed.  ;)
Title: Re: firefox 3
Post by: Sebby on Nov 17, 2008, 13:04:39
:hehe:
Title: Re: firefox 3
Post by: Rik on Nov 17, 2008, 13:05:35
I think we've all been there, Ray, some apps are very persistent. :(
Title: Re: firefox 3
Post by: Sebby on Nov 17, 2008, 13:08:36
Anything particular in mind, Rik? *cough* Norton *cough* >:D
Title: Re: firefox 3
Post by: Inactive on Nov 17, 2008, 13:08:51
So come on Rik, have you taken the FF3 plunge yet? it really is quite pain free.
Title: Re: firefox 3
Post by: Rik on Nov 17, 2008, 13:11:06
No, I've been busy with new toothbrushes and bread machine this morning. :) I'll probably do the notebook later, or Wednesday.  ;)
Title: Re: firefox 3
Post by: Inactive on Nov 17, 2008, 13:16:10
No excuses, it only takes 5 minutes max..  ;D
Title: Re: firefox 3
Post by: Rik on Nov 17, 2008, 14:40:22
It's not the time. :)
Title: Re: firefox 3
Post by: Inactive on Nov 17, 2008, 14:50:59
Chicken..  ;D
Title: Re: firefox 3
Post by: Rik on Nov 17, 2008, 14:52:04
Yup. ;D
Title: Re: firefox 3
Post by: Inactive on Nov 17, 2008, 14:53:07
 :rofl:
Title: Re: firefox 3
Post by: vitriol on Nov 17, 2008, 17:20:53
FF3 is great, I'd never switch back to IE for general browsing.
Title: Re: firefox 3
Post by: Rik on Nov 17, 2008, 17:21:53
I always preferred FF2 to IE or Opera. I'll leave others to note the past tense. ;)
Title: Re: firefox 3
Post by: Lance on Nov 17, 2008, 19:18:41
Main machine or just the laptop, Rik?
Title: Re: firefox 3
Post by: Sebby on Nov 17, 2008, 19:47:27
Quote from: Rik on Nov 17, 2008, 17:21:53
I always preferred FF2 to IE or Opera. I'll leave others to note the past tense. ;)

I hope you haven't gone back to IE. Tell me it's not true! ;)
Title: Re: firefox 3
Post by: Simon on Nov 17, 2008, 20:38:51
Quote from: Rik on Nov 17, 2008, 17:21:53
I always preferred FF2 to IE or Opera. I'll leave others to note the past tense. ;)

:tiger:  Not too much excitement in one day now!  ;D
Title: Re: firefox 3
Post by: kinmel on Nov 17, 2008, 22:04:24
El Reg (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/11/15/reg_readers_and_firefox/) reckons FF3 is the most popular browser for visitors to it's site.

A better browser for better browsers  :thumb:
Title: Re: firefox 3
Post by: Rik on Nov 18, 2008, 09:02:27
Quote from: Lance on Nov 17, 2008, 19:18:41
Main machine or just the laptop, Rik?

All three, Lance.

One thing that does niggle me, though, is the way it puts a bar at the end of a truncated bookmark or page title. Anyone know if this can be changed? (screenshot below)

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Title: Re: firefox 3
Post by: Rik on Nov 18, 2008, 09:03:37
Quote from: Sebby on Nov 17, 2008, 19:47:27
I hope you haven't gone back to IE. Tell me it's not true! ;)

I never left it, Sebby, I just faked FF2. ;D
Title: Re: firefox 3
Post by: Ray on Nov 18, 2008, 09:08:29
Quote from: Rik on Nov 18, 2008, 09:02:27
All three, Lance.

One thing that does niggle me, though, is the way it puts a bar at the end of a truncated bookmark or page title. Anyone know if this can be changed? (screenshot below)

I've never seen that happen, Rik.
Title: Re: firefox 3
Post by: Rik on Nov 18, 2008, 09:11:02
It's picking on me, then. :)
Title: Re: firefox 3
Post by: Inactive on Nov 18, 2008, 09:11:14
I don't get any red squiggles on mine Rik.. ;D

:out: :duck:
Title: Re: firefox 3
Post by: Rik on Nov 18, 2008, 09:11:48
 :tongue: :tongue: :tongue: :tongue: ;D
Title: Re: firefox 3
Post by: Ray on Nov 18, 2008, 09:17:34
This is what I get, Rik.



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Title: Re: firefox 3
Post by: Rik on Nov 18, 2008, 09:22:23
Thanks, Ray. I wonder if it's a font issue?
Title: Re: firefox 3
Post by: Inactive on Nov 18, 2008, 09:23:20
Oh mine is different to both of yours.

I don't have NEWS and WEATHER or Hardware & support.

:hehe: :out:
Title: Re: firefox 3
Post by: Rik on Nov 18, 2008, 09:23:42
 :rofl:
Title: Re: firefox 3
Post by: colirv on Nov 18, 2008, 09:28:31
My computer updated to 3 ok, but my wife's laptop wouldn't. Eventually I just installed 3 over the top of 2 and it was fine. Of course I backed up with MozBackup (http://mozbackup.jasnapaka.com/) first.
Title: Re: firefox 3
Post by: Rik on Nov 18, 2008, 09:34:19
Do you see my problem, though, Colin. A quick Google shows some discussion of the issue, but it seems to relate more to web page display than program. I'd guess, atm, that I'm using a font which doesn't contain an ellipsis, but I'm not aware of a setting to change the font (or why it worked in FF2).
Title: Re: firefox 3
Post by: Simon on Nov 18, 2008, 09:46:54
Quote from: Rik on Nov 18, 2008, 09:34:19
I'm not aware of a setting to change the font (or why it worked in FF2).

Tools > Options > Content?
Title: Re: firefox 3
Post by: Rik on Nov 18, 2008, 09:52:15
Solved, I needed a font change in my theme... Changing within FF didn't work. Pesky computers. :)
Title: Re: firefox 3
Post by: Inactive on Nov 18, 2008, 09:58:16
Glad you are sorted Rik. I thought for a minute that you may need my expert advice. ;D
Title: Re: firefox 3
Post by: Rik on Nov 18, 2008, 10:00:39
;D

I did, In. Ray's screenshot gave me the clue, it was using a different font to mine, so it was then down to finding whether it was an internal FF thing, or external. It was the latter, but the puzzle is that it worked fine in FF2.
Title: Re: firefox 3
Post by: Simon on Nov 18, 2008, 10:15:53
FF3 does seem to be an almost entirely different beast.
Title: Re: firefox 3
Post by: Rik on Nov 18, 2008, 10:18:51
I'm wondering whether it set it's own internal font previously and has now moved to picking up the system font?
Title: Re: firefox 3
Post by: Simon on Nov 18, 2008, 10:41:35
It should have retained the settings from FF2.  :dunno:
Title: Re: firefox 3
Post by: Rik on Nov 18, 2008, 10:44:18
I think it did, in that it looked the same, but it seems to be an issue with font encoding. Google has a lot on the subject, but no obvious solutions. It's simply a case of it handling the ellipsis differently for some reason. The font I was using didn't have one, so FF2 was creating it or getting it elsewhere, while FF3 doesn't.
Title: Re: firefox 3
Post by: Sebby on Nov 18, 2008, 12:14:30
Glad you solved this one, Rik. :)
Title: Re: firefox 3
Post by: Inactive on Nov 18, 2008, 12:26:28
Yup, fontastic result. ;)
Title: Re: firefox 3
Post by: Sebby on Nov 18, 2008, 13:28:33
:grn:
Title: Re: firefox 3
Post by: Inactive on Nov 18, 2008, 13:35:13
 :ithank: ;D
Title: Re: firefox 3
Post by: Ray on Nov 18, 2008, 13:48:56
Quote from: Inactive on Nov 18, 2008, 12:26:28
Yup, fontastic result. ;)

Have another one to go away with, In.  :grn:
Title: Re: firefox 3
Post by: Inactive on Nov 18, 2008, 13:54:22
 ;D Ta Ray..  :thnks:
Title: Re: firefox 3
Post by: Rik on Nov 18, 2008, 16:07:10
I'd have given you one myself, so to speak, but I was elsewhere. ;D
Title: Re: firefox 3
Post by: Ray on Nov 18, 2008, 16:08:30
Quote from: Rik on Nov 18, 2008, 16:07:10
I'd have given you one myself, so to speak, but I was elsewhere. ;D

Yes we had noticed your prolonged absence, Rik, heavy lunch was it. ;D
Title: Re: firefox 3
Post by: Inactive on Nov 18, 2008, 16:09:34
Quote from: Rik on Nov 18, 2008, 16:07:10
I'd have given you one myself, so to speak, but I was elsewhere. ;D

Kinda glad you were elsewhere then Rik. ;D
Title: Re: firefox 3
Post by: Rik on Nov 18, 2008, 16:10:08
 :rofl: :karmic:
Title: Re: firefox 3
Post by: Inactive on Nov 18, 2008, 16:14:27
 :thnks: :hehe: