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Title: external HD
Post by: Baz on Dec 16, 2008, 14:44:24
quick question here. My daughter just rang saying her HD wont turn on.Its a maxtor onetouch lll. she has tried all the obvious like cables etc. turned it off for a while then back on but its not even making a noise. The LED light is on at the power pack but not the button on the HD itself.

Any ideas
Thanks
Title: Re: external HD
Post by: Rik on Dec 16, 2008, 14:46:04
Sounds like a failure inside the case, Baz, either the HD itself or the circuit board. Is it under warranty?
Title: Re: external HD
Post by: somanyholes on Dec 16, 2008, 14:49:13
i hope the word "backup's" isn't going to make her cringe....
Title: Re: external HD
Post by: Rik on Dec 16, 2008, 14:52:09
They are probably on that drive, So. :(
Title: Re: external HD
Post by: somanyholes on Dec 16, 2008, 14:53:27
probably not much help but

http://forums.seagate.com/stx/board/message?board.id=onetouch&message.id=185
Title: Re: external HD
Post by: Baz on Dec 16, 2008, 14:53:57
Quote from: Rik on Dec 16, 2008, 14:46:04
Sounds like a failure inside the case, Baz, either the HD itself or the circuit board. Is it under warranty?

thats what I thought first Rik but didnt want to say so  :(  dont know about the warranty she's checking for that now.

This IS her back up So.......its actually all her music etc but she plays them from here through her lappy.


Title: Re: external HD
Post by: Baz on Dec 16, 2008, 14:55:43
if you get a replacement how do you stand with all the files etc thats on the drive
Title: Re: external HD
Post by: Rik on Dec 16, 2008, 14:56:20
It's one of the reasons I make multiple backups, Baz, you always hope that you don't get a multiple device failure.
Title: Re: external HD
Post by: Lance on Dec 16, 2008, 14:56:50
If they don't want the old one back (unlikely) then I would dismantle the casing and hope the dive has a normal sata connector...
Title: Re: external HD
Post by: Rik on Dec 16, 2008, 14:57:15
Quote from: Baz on Dec 16, 2008, 14:55:43
if you get a replacement how do you stand with all the files etc thats on the drive

You'll be starting from scratch. If it's not under warranty, it would be worth hooking the drive up to a PC and see if the files can be recovered.
Title: Re: external HD
Post by: Baz on Dec 16, 2008, 14:57:34
yeah I see you reasoning Rik. it always happens to the next person though doesnt it.
Title: Re: external HD
Post by: somanyholes on Dec 16, 2008, 14:58:01
QuoteIf they don't want the old one back (unlikely) then I would dismantle the casing and hope the dive has a normal sata connector...


would they view that as voiding the warranty? if though it's already broken?
Title: Re: external HD
Post by: Rik on Dec 16, 2008, 14:58:39
Quote from: Baz on Dec 16, 2008, 14:57:34
yeah I see you reasoning Rik. it always happens to the next person though doesnt it.

So far, yes, but then I backup to four external and one internal HD. Haven't lost a file since 1989. :)
Title: Re: external HD
Post by: Baz on Dec 16, 2008, 14:59:06
could the drive be fitted in a PC then or maybe a caddy and keep it external, if its just a boot up fault
Title: Re: external HD
Post by: Rik on Dec 16, 2008, 14:59:22
Quote from: somanyholes on Dec 16, 2008, 14:58:01

would they view that as voiding the warranty? if though it's already broken?

Probably, usually opening the case voids the warranty. Once opened, who's to say if it was user malfunction?
Title: Re: external HD
Post by: Rik on Dec 16, 2008, 14:59:46
Quote from: Baz on Dec 16, 2008, 14:59:06
could the drive be fitted in a PC then or maybe a caddy and keep it external, if its just a boot up fault

Yes, new caddy, problem solved. :)
Title: Re: external HD
Post by: Baz on Dec 16, 2008, 15:00:24
theres hope then in case it is that :)
Title: Re: external HD
Post by: Rik on Dec 16, 2008, 15:00:55
Yup. Has to be worth a try if it is out of warranty.
Title: Re: external HD
Post by: Baz on Dec 16, 2008, 15:04:56
cheers. will let you know if shes  :bawl: or   :yeay:
Title: Re: external HD
Post by: Rik on Dec 16, 2008, 15:09:40
 ;D

We'll be here.
Title: Re: external HD
Post by: vitriol on Dec 16, 2008, 17:16:04
Just a thought on this subject.

If you had say 1000 songs downloaded from iTunes on the HDD that died, are you allowed to re download those tracks for free? or do you have to pay again?

Title: Re: external HD
Post by: Rik on Dec 16, 2008, 17:16:50
I don't think so, Vit. Apple expect you to make your own backups.
Title: Re: external HD
Post by: Sebby on Dec 16, 2008, 19:42:06
Theoretically, any downloaded tracks from iTunes will be on your computer as well.
Title: Re: external HD
Post by: Rik on Dec 17, 2008, 09:23:27
In my case, on several different drives. ;)
Title: Re: external HD
Post by: vitriol on Dec 17, 2008, 18:07:04
Surely in the even of loss, then you'd be able to download them again at no cost. If not shame on you apple!
Title: Re: external HD
Post by: Noreen on Dec 17, 2008, 18:12:25
Naxos allow you a week to re-download in the event of a problem but I don't think that Amazon do, Play.com allow you to re-download for a limited number of times. I always backup to an external harddrive AND a flash drive.
Title: Re: external HD
Post by: Rik on Dec 17, 2008, 18:52:47
I don't think so, Vit, but I'm not 100% certain. Most d/l software comes with an optional extra payment to allow re-downloads in the event of loss. Apple, may offer such a scheme, I've never noticed.
Title: Re: external HD
Post by: Steve on Dec 17, 2008, 18:55:40
Apple look on a download of lost songs as a second purchase.
Title: Re: external HD
Post by: Rik on Dec 17, 2008, 18:57:00
Thanks for the confirmation, Steve. It's not that unreasonable, I suppose. If you lose a CD, you don't expect to get a second one free. I just make sure there's enough backups made. ;)
Title: Re: external HD
Post by: Steve on Dec 17, 2008, 19:12:50
Even better give a copy to someone else ;D
Title: Re: external HD
Post by: Rik on Dec 17, 2008, 19:13:55
OK, where should I send it...