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Title: Advice needed. Which router for new imac?
Post by: yorkshireblonde on Jan 20, 2009, 12:51:54
Getting a new imac in the next few days. I also happen to need a new router that will work with that and be able to provide a wireless secure network. Don't know enough to decide for myself. All advice gratefully received!
Thanks
Title: Re: Advice needed. Which router for new imac?
Post by: Rik on Jan 20, 2009, 12:55:18
Welcome to the forum.  :welc2: :welc: :karma:

Any router should work fine with any OS, so your choice is fairly wide. Do you have any idea about your current connection quality, ie the downstream attenuation, noise margin and sync speed?
Title: Re: Advice needed. Which router for new imac?
Post by: yorkshireblonde on Jan 20, 2009, 12:59:37
Oh dear going to be REALLY blonde now. I'll try and fid out those things. I d knw my speed is limited becasue of the rural area I live and the distance from the exchange. Other than that I'll get back to you!
Thanks
Title: Re: Advice needed. Which router for new imac?
Post by: Rik on Jan 20, 2009, 13:02:18
What router/modem are you currently using? You'll find instructions for extracting the stats from a large range over at Kitz: http://www.kitz.co.uk/adsl/frogstats.htm

A long line may well benefit from a 2-Wire 2700, which many of us use.

Title: Re: Advice needed. Which router for new imac?
Post by: yorkshireblonde on Jan 20, 2009, 13:40:20

My router is a speedtouch 580 and I can't get any line stats for it. Can't get it to play at all!!!!
Using the BT speed tester I got a highest of 978Kbps. Otherwise not a clue.
As for the 2 wire 2700 any recomendations as to the model? :comp:
Title: Re: Advice needed. Which router for new imac?
Post by: Rik on Jan 20, 2009, 14:49:59
The 2-Wire 2700 is the model, you'd want to get a dual-SSID variant. That said, with a Speedtouch, you should be fine. You should be able to get the stats in the following way:

The SpeedTouch™ comes with embedded web pages, providing an interface to the
software installed on the device. It allows easy setup and management of the
SpeedTouch™ via your web browser from any PC connected to the SpeedTouch™.

Access To access the pages:

1 Open your web browser.

2 In the address bar type http://speedtouch.lan or your SpeedTouch™'s IP
address, by default that is 192.168.1.254, and press Enter.

3 Enter your SpeedTouch™ security user name and password.

4 The SpeedTouch™'s home page will be displayed in your browser window.

From here - depending on the rights of your user account - you have access to
the other pages.

Tasks Amongst others you can:

View the SpeedTouch™'s current settings and status.
Configure the SpeedTouch™ to connect to your Service Provider with the
settings provided.
Set the SpeedTouch™'s firewall to work with specific applications.
Set up security features.
Enable remote management access.
Back up your configuration settings.
Reset the SpeedTouch™'s default settings.
Update the SpeedTouch™'s firmware.
Title: Re: Advice needed. Which router for new imac?
Post by: Simon on Jan 20, 2009, 16:59:28
:welc:  YB, :karma:
Title: Re: Advice needed. Which router for new imac?
Post by: Sebby on Jan 20, 2009, 19:06:03
Welcome to the forum! :karma:
Title: Re: Advice needed. Which router for new imac?
Post by: yorkshireblonde on Jan 21, 2009, 21:19:54
Thanks to all for your welcome to the forum.
Now back online with a secured network!!! At last, only 2 years without. Oops :phew:
After speaking to the wonderful people on the helpline also several times in the last 2 days (reminds me of why I joined idnet in the first place) all sorted on a net gear router.
And I love :kiss: my new imac.
Thanks again to all.
Title: Re: Advice needed. Which router for new imac?
Post by: Sebby on Jan 21, 2009, 21:35:58
Excellent news. IDNet are Mac people, so that's good. I'm looking to get an iMac as well - just waiting for the rumoured new model. :)
Title: Re: Advice needed. Which router for new imac?
Post by: yorkshireblonde on Jan 21, 2009, 21:52:17
Go for it Sebby. I know I'm not using the imac properly yet but so much better.
Mind you unless I move house I don't think there is much more to be done with the line stats.


Rik I managed to get some line stats for the new system:
Connection  1152/288
Line attenuation  63.5/31.5
Noise 7.2/20

Is there anything can be done? I know these are appallingly shocking. :back:
Title: Re: Advice needed. Which router for new imac?
Post by: Sebby on Jan 21, 2009, 21:55:57
That's just about the best it's going to get on a 63.5dB line. :(

You must be quite some way from the exchange. You could try the test socket to see if your internal wiring could be improved - if you have a BT master socket with a removable lower half, carefully remove it (there will be wires connected to the plate, so just let it dangle) and connect the router to the socket behind the plate. Then re-post the stats. :)
Title: Re: Advice needed. Which router for new imac?
Post by: yorkshireblonde on Jan 21, 2009, 22:25:41
I'll give it a go tomorrow evening. Sleep is calling.  :bed:
I'll play then. Mind you the router is connected to the main house socket not an extension one. Have had problems before!!
Thanks.
Title: Re: Advice needed. Which router for new imac?
Post by: David on Jan 21, 2009, 22:33:37
 :karma: :welc2: Just to say hello YB Hope you get things sorted you are in the best hands  ;D
Title: Re: Advice needed. Which router for new imac?
Post by: Ted on Jan 21, 2009, 22:59:57
Quote from: yorkshireblonde on Jan 21, 2009, 22:25:41
I'll give it a go tomorrow evening. Sleep is calling.  :bed:
I'll play then. Mind you the router is connected to the main house socket not an extension one. Have had problems before!!
Thanks.

If you plug the router into the master socket and have other extensions, you should consider fitting a filtered faceplate, such as THIS (http://www.adslnation.com/phpapps/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=24&products_id=105) The router plugs straight into the new faceplate as the signal is already filtered. Any problem wiring is isolated from the ADSL signal, another benefit is that you no longer require filters on any other phones.
Many people on here use them, as do i. Fantastic piece of kit :thumb:
Title: Re: Advice needed. Which router for new imac?
Post by: trophymick on Jan 22, 2009, 07:50:11
Welcome to the knowledge base Yorkshireblonde :welc2: Glad you're sorted :thumb:
Title: Re: Advice needed. Which router for new imac?
Post by: alan on Jan 22, 2009, 08:48:06
Quote from: Sebby on Jan 21, 2009, 21:35:58
Excellent news. IDNet are Mac people, so that's good. I'm looking to get an iMac as well - just waiting for the rumoured new model. :)
.
You and me both.... Don't know how much longer I can wait though.

Title: Re: Advice needed. Which router for new imac?
Post by: yorkshireblonde on Feb 03, 2009, 18:16:21
Quote from: Ted on Jan 21, 2009, 22:59:57
If you plug the router into the master socket and have other extensions, you should consider fitting a filtered faceplate, such as THIS (http://www.adslnation.com/phpapps/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=24&products_id=105) The router plugs straight into the new faceplate as the signal is already filtered. Any problem wiring is isolated from the ADSL signal, another benefit is that you no longer require filters on any other phones.
Many people on here use them, as do i. Fantastic piece of kit :thumb:

Thanks for the advice. Have ordered one and will try it. May well get the other half to fit it though!!
Regards
Karen
Title: Re: Advice needed. Which router for new imac?
Post by: Rik on Feb 03, 2009, 18:18:11
It's fairly straightforward, Karen. If you are uncertain of anything, just ask. :)
Title: Re: Advice needed. Which router for new imac?
Post by: Sebby on Feb 03, 2009, 19:01:35
We won't bite (hard). :)
Title: Re: Advice needed. Which router for new imac?
Post by: yorkshireblonde on Feb 06, 2009, 14:14:41
Oh dear!!! :eek4:
Got the new telephone faceplate  XTE-2005. Taken off the front of the old one and there are  6 wires. The instructions say nothing about that.
Help what do I do? Have tried ring te hlp line for ASDL Nation and no answer.
Thanks in advance
Karen
:dunno:
Title: Re: Advice needed. Which router for new imac?
Post by: Sebby on Feb 06, 2009, 14:16:58
When you say there are 6 wires, are the 2 lots of 3 different coloured wires?
Title: Re: Advice needed. Which router for new imac?
Post by: yorkshireblonde on Feb 06, 2009, 14:19:12
Just looking!
Title: Re: Advice needed. Which router for new imac?
Post by: yorkshireblonde on Feb 06, 2009, 14:23:31
Actually there are 6 different cables.
1. green with white bands
2 blue wth white bands
3. orange with white bands
4 white with orange bands
5 White with blue bands
6 White with green bands

Hope this makes sense to you sebby.
Thanks for your help
Karen
Title: Re: Advice needed. Which router for new imac?
Post by: Sebby on Feb 06, 2009, 14:27:55
Okay, that's makes sense. Are they all connected to the current faceplate?
Title: Re: Advice needed. Which router for new imac?
Post by: yorkshireblonde on Feb 06, 2009, 14:30:44
Those are the ones connected to those numbers. There are also 2 white/brown cables not connected.
Regards
Karen
Title: Re: Advice needed. Which router for new imac?
Post by: Sebby on Feb 06, 2009, 14:32:29
Okay. What I would do is make a note of which wires are connected to which terminal number on the current faceplate, just in case. Then, connect up only the following wires:

Blue with white bands to 2
Orange with white bands to 3
White with blue bands to 5

Title: Re: Advice needed. Which router for new imac?
Post by: yorkshireblonde on Feb 06, 2009, 14:37:52
thank-you
Goingto disappear for a while now while I try this!!!
:clever:         :bow:
Title: Re: Advice needed. Which router for new imac?
Post by: Sebby on Feb 06, 2009, 14:38:04
Okay. :) :fingers:
Title: Re: Advice needed. Which router for new imac?
Post by: David on Feb 06, 2009, 14:40:30
 :fingers: Good Luck Yokshireblonde

Your in good hands with these guys they sorted me out with the same issue, :thumb:
Title: Re: Advice needed. Which router for new imac?
Post by: yorkshireblonde on Feb 06, 2009, 14:50:50
Thank you so much it works!!!!
Still have telephone and internet.
:phew:
You are all brilliant.
Well most of you anyway. :whistle:
If I can help with anything nursey/critical care let me know.
Karen
Title: Re: Advice needed. Which router for new imac?
Post by: David on Feb 06, 2009, 14:53:25
Im not well Karen.......everyone else is fine  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Advice needed. Which router for new imac?
Post by: Glenn on Feb 06, 2009, 14:54:41
Since you have been here, you've never been well  ;D
Title: Re: Advice needed. Which router for new imac?
Post by: Rik on Feb 06, 2009, 14:55:16
Quote from: yorkshireblonde on Feb 06, 2009, 14:50:50
If I can help with anything nursey/critical care let me know.

Careful, Karen, you'll upset Jill. :) However, I am very poorly and could do with some brow soothing if you're in the area.
Title: Re: Advice needed. Which router for new imac?
Post by: Rik on Feb 06, 2009, 14:55:41
Quote from: Glenn on Feb 06, 2009, 14:54:41
Since you have been here, you've never been well  ;D

I think it started before he got here, Glenn. :)
Title: Re: Advice needed. Which router for new imac?
Post by: David on Feb 06, 2009, 14:57:09
You see they agree Im not a well man I need treatment  ;D


Doors open Rik  ;D
Title: Re: Advice needed. Which router for new imac?
Post by: Sebby on Feb 06, 2009, 14:57:34
Glad it's all sorted, Karen. :thumb: ;D
Title: Re: Advice needed. Which router for new imac?
Post by: Glenn on Feb 06, 2009, 14:58:05
It's not critical care that you need though :D
Title: Re: Advice needed. Which router for new imac?
Post by: David on Feb 06, 2009, 14:59:01
It is to me  ;D >:D >:D
Title: Re: Advice needed. Which router for new imac?
Post by: Rik on Feb 06, 2009, 15:04:34
No, he needs an orthopunic specialist.  ;D
Title: Re: Advice needed. Which router for new imac?
Post by: yorkshireblonde on Feb 06, 2009, 15:10:43
There there everyone. Take 2 pills (smarties are good for the chocolate input) lie down and if it doesn't get better tell someone else. Thats a typical nurse answer isn't it? :out:

Title: Re: Advice needed. Which router for new imac?
Post by: Rik on Feb 06, 2009, 15:11:32
It's a typical Netters answer, which is much more important.  :thumb:
Title: Re: Advice needed. Which router for new imac?
Post by: Glenn on Feb 06, 2009, 15:13:31
David, you could come and live near to me, they have a nice place there for you, just outside Crowthorne, it is named after moor that was broad ;)
Title: Re: Advice needed. Which router for new imac?
Post by: Tacitus on Feb 06, 2009, 15:26:35
Ignore these guys Karen, they'll wander off-topic at the drop of a hat.    :)

The big question is, did fitting the new faceplate make a difference to the stats?
Title: Re: Advice needed. Which router for new imac?
Post by: David on Feb 06, 2009, 15:32:23
QuoteDavid, you could come and live near to me, they have a nice place there for you, just outside Crowthorne, it is named after moor that was broad

Im not going back there Glenn only been out a month  ;D
Title: Re: Advice needed. Which router for new imac?
Post by: yorkshireblonde on Feb 06, 2009, 15:33:19
Sadly no it didn't. I just think I am too far away from the exchange. Mind you I may ask a friend who lives close to me to check their stats just to make sure.
Regards
Title: Re: Advice needed. Which router for new imac?
Post by: David on Feb 06, 2009, 15:33:45
QuoteIgnore these guys Karen, they'll wander off-topic at the drop of a hat.    Smiley

The big question is, did fitting the new faceplate make a difference to the stats

:nana: Trying the technical approach ah  >:D
Title: Re: Advice needed. Which router for new imac?
Post by: Rik on Feb 06, 2009, 15:36:35
Quote from: yorkshireblonde on Feb 06, 2009, 15:33:19
I may ask a friend who lives close to me to check their stats just to make sure.

That may not tell you too much, Karen. Their line could take a completely different route back to the exchange, or be on a better or worse piece of cable. To give you an example, my immediate neighbours can only get a 512k service, across the road gets 1Mb, a couple of doors away gets 2Mb and I get 3. It may help that I was the first broadband user here, and had a friendly engineer who looked for the best exchange pair for me. ;)
Title: Re: Advice needed. Which router for new imac?
Post by: Tacitus on Feb 06, 2009, 19:25:50
Quote from: badpianoplayer on Feb 06, 2009, 15:33:45
:nana: Trying the technical approach ah  >:D

At my age you'll try anything.....

And I've not yet mentioned that I've been a Mac user for the last 16 years..... ;D
Title: Re: Advice needed. Which router for new imac?
Post by: David on Feb 06, 2009, 19:27:04
Thats any age then  >:D