I was thinking about resurrecting my 2 wire now I have got rid of interleaving,I think it will depend whether I have the stamina to setup all the port forwarding required for the various toys in the house, even then I am not sure whether I will be successful i.e did we answer the question as to whether Xbox live is available on the BT2700HGV? Anyway I came across this,its probably nothing to worry about unless your with BT but once you've got it you seem to be stuck with it
http://bt2700hgv.tripod.com/ir1002700HGV.htm#New BT firmware v6.1.1.48
Very interesting - I haven't seen that mentioned before. It could spoil the fun for a lot of 2700 users. :(
Mine still says the software version is 5.29.117.6
As ever an excellent read, good to see that it is still regularly updated.
Certainly worth keeping an eye on just in case that firmware spreads, I am not sure from the scream whether anyone's managed to unlock or flash v6 yet.
Is it worth making access via a sticky to the link Steve has found ?
Good find Steve. :thumb:
Stuckied. :)
Shouldn't that be stuccoed? ;D
Technically, yes. :P
I didn't have any cement. :)
A poor workman and all that. ;D
Well, it is the credit crunch. :whistle:
:grn: ;D
And indeed... :grn:
:ithank:
I think all twin SSID BT2700HGV users should check this link (http://bt2700hgv.tripod.com/ir1002700HGV.htm#New%20BT%20firmware%20v6.1.1.48) soon,as all the hubs running firmware v5.29.117.6 are being upgraded by BT no matter to which ISP you are connected .This firmware has not yet been unlocked or downgraded. However one person with Zen has managed to reconnect
May I suggest if your worried that its time to think whether the singtel firmware should be used.
It does seem apparent that previously configured v5s are not affected by the upgrade, but caution should certainly be advised when buying these off Ebay now.
Quote from: Simon on Mar 06, 2009, 15:09:54
It does seem apparent that previously configured v5s are not affected by the upgrade, but caution should certainly be advised when buying these off Ebay now.
I am not sure ? Simon as one Zen user has reported that he has been upgraded.
I could be wrong, but as I read it, and it is confusing, if you have a v5, and it's set up to use IDNet, for example, even if it updates, you can still use IDNet with the new software. If you have a *new* v6, which has not previously been configured for another ISP, you may not be able to do so. Don't take my word for it though!
I think your right in the fact that you can still use it with idnet, however to get at the settings i.e mtu etc it appears if I read it correctly you have to try to connect as BT business user with a "false" username and then it will allow you to change settings. It will be interesting to see if anyone @idnet gets upgraded.
Interesting is not the word I was thinking of, Steve. :)
OK, so do we have anyone with v6 that's able to use it with IDNet, and has anyone successfully flashed v6 with the Singtel firmware or does it just create a brick?
Latest information is that the new firmware works with other ISPs ok, thank you God
It appears that 2700HGV's with the BT v5.29.107.12 recovery firmware are not affected by this update and some may prefer to put off the automatic update.
If you have carefully read the Tripod articles and want to install the recovery firmware to avoid this update, then entirely at your own risk ...................
The firmware can be downloaded from HERE (http://a_woodward.www.idnet.com/bt-2700hgv_reinstall_voice_adsl.5-29-107-12.2sp) and installed using this Router page (http://gateway.2wire.net/tech/upgrade.html)
I am running this recovery firmware with no problems
Thanks, Alan. :thumb:
What do you mean by 'recovery firmware', Alan? Mine is 5.29.107.19, and there's no 'update' link on the Home page, so does that mean it's not likely to try to update?
Quote from: Simon on Mar 06, 2009, 22:02:42
What do you mean by 'recovery firmware', Alan? Mine is 5.29.107.19, and there's no 'update' link on the Home page, so does that mean it's not likely to try to update?
The current v5 firmware is BT v5.29.107.19 and that is the one BT are currently updating to V6.
BT v5.29.107.19 has not escaped into the wild and so it is not available for manual upgrades.
The latest firmware that has "escaped" (and can therefore be used manually) is one that was issued by BT to allow faulty Routers to be "recovered"
bt-2700hgv_reinstall_voice_adsl.5-29-107-12.2sp , my earlier hyperlink takes you directly to the update page in the router
http://gateway.2wire.net/tech/upgrade.html
Right, I get it, thanks, Alan. I guess the clock is ticking for mine then. :(
Either that or there's a bomb inside it... :P
:basil: :basil:
Mine is the same firmware as yours Simon :thumb: I read the bit about version 6, and (I think) there is no need to panic, a little 'fooling' of the router seems all that's needed, if the need arises :whistle:
Quote from: kinmel on Mar 06, 2009, 23:13:08
The current v5 firmware is BT v5.29.107.19 and that is the one BT are currently updating to V6.
I have just bought a dual SSID from Ebay (£2.20) and it has come with firmware 5.29.117.6 installed which appears to be a later version.
It is up an running perfectly but would I be better downgrading the software to the BT v5.29.107.12 recovery firmware?
In my present software there is no tick box on the management page to permit me to disallow Inbound and Outbound Control Remote Management.
Quote from: 6jb on Mar 07, 2009, 10:57:33In my present software there is no tick box on the management page to permit me to disallow Inbound and Outbound Control Remote Management.
Thanks for mentioning that. I've just found it on mine, and unticked Inbound Remote Management.
Where was that, Simon?
http://home/xslt?PAGE=J15&THISPAGE=J01&NEXTPAGE=J15
Management > Firewall > Advanced Settings
Thanks. :-* I had it turned off. :)
Wish I had it to turn off!
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I could do you a little sticker to go on your monitor, JB. ;)
Good news for those of us that do not have 59.29.117.6 firmware.
Using Tripod's methods I have forced a router with 5.29.107.12 firmware to try and log into BT's update server at https://pbthdm.bt.motive.com/cwmpWeb/CPEMgt and the server rejects the attempts because old firmwares have the wrong certificates.
The detailed log reads....
INF 2009-03-13T20:41:27Z cwmd: retried session started, server: 'https://pbthdm.bt.motive.com/cwmpWeb/CPEMgt', event code(s): '0 BOOTSTRAP
ERR 2009-03-13T20:41:28Z cwmd: failed to build or validate cert-chain: depth=0, error=unable to get local issuer certificate
ERR 2009-03-13T20:41:28Z cwmd: failed certificate: /C=US/ST=Texas/L=Austin/O=Motive, Inc./OU=Hosted Services/CN=pbthdm.bt.motive.com
WRN 2009-03-13T20:41:28Z cwmd: httpc_poll_dispatch - I/O error
WRN 2009-03-13T20:41:28Z cwmd: session failed...
INF 2009-03-13T20:41:28Z cwmd: session will be retried in 338058(ms)
So not only are they not looking for us, they reject us if we come up on their radar - excellent news if you run servers and need to avoid the "Device List" bug in V6 firmware
Thanks for that, Alan. :karma:
And another one, for all your work on this! :karmic:
Great work. :)
It is now confirmed that the Javascript save method will not work with V6 firmware, that seriously reduces their versatility.
Unless for some reason you must have the V6 firmware, we recommend you lock down version 5.28.117.6 firmwares by changing the acs_url (http://bt2700hgv.tripod.com/ir1002700HGVbtV5editACSurl.htm).
Follow the guide and it is a simple process; be sure to use https://gw-5-29-117.cwmp.cms.2wire.com as the new acs_url.
When buying a 2700HGV, confirm with the seller that the router has a V5 series Firmware
Thanks, Alan. :thumb:
Does the Setup Wizard method work to save new settings, Alan?
Quote from: Simon on Apr 16, 2009, 11:49:02
Does the Setup Wizard method work to save new settings, Alan?
Simon has devised the most successful method as listed at Tripod (http://bt2700hgv.tripod.com/ir1002700HGVbtV6setup.htm), this has been getting mixed results, it is important to do a factory reset before setting up.
Thanks Alan. Fortunately, mine seems to be immune at the moment.
Long may it stay that way. :)
Indeed! :)
I don't fancy risking the change either. ;)
Could be time to dig out the old DG834G if it happens. :)
Which one? ;D
I only have one. Didn't know you then, so I was still buying sensibly! ;D
:nana: ;D
I always feel a spare router may come in handy one day, so tend to keep them.
I have to admit that I have a few :evil:
Not sure why :dunno:
I've still got an old DG834G (version 1) in a cupboard. I'm sure it'll come in handy one day. :)
I agree. :)
Quote from: Rik on Apr 16, 2009, 14:32:11
:nana: ;D
I always feel a spare router may come in handy one day, so tend to keep them.
Me too, so I did. One. ;)
Well, there's the one I lend out if members need to try a different router and two for safety and security. ;D
Well, I did tell a little fib, as I forgot about the other three 2700s I accumulated, but if all those get stiffed by the update, I'll just have the one Netgear to fall back on.
;D
I'm thinking of getting a Speedtouch for the cupboard, just in case. :)
Just in case the cupboard needs one? ;D
Or I can't find the others. ;D
I've spent half the evening looking for a CD. Buggered if I can find it. :(
A feeling I increasingly know well. The filing system just ndoesn't work as well as you start to get older. :( Anyhoo... I'm off to catch my beauty sleep. I'll be back in a 100 years. ;D :bye:
Me too. Nite. :)
See you later. :)
Overnight BT have re-started the roll-out of V6 firmware, any 2700 using 5.29.117.6 firmware will be updated unless the ACS_URL has been changed as previously explained.
After the upgrade it is NOT possible to change back to old firmwares later.
Thanks Alan. Do I need to worry about 5.29.107.19 yet?
Quote from: Simon on Jun 23, 2009, 10:18:37
Thanks Alan. Do I need to worry about 5.29.107.19 yet?
Not until someone tells us their 5.29.107.19 has updated ;D
:phew: Don't fancy all that fiddling about with Opera. :)
Quote from: Simon on Jun 23, 2009, 11:01:02
Don't fancy all that fiddling about with Opera. :)
In the event Simon, being a little reluctant myself to start with, it was very easy to do. :thumb:
Just follow the steps one by one and it will be done.
Yes, it's just putting my mind to it, Les. :)
And for me it would mean having to download and Install opera to start with!
Yes, me too, Lance.
If you don't change it, then you will be updated.
Although the V6 firmware version number remains unchanged, some of the bugs have been fixed
I'll get round to changing it eventually!
Quote from: Simon on Jun 24, 2009, 07:31:17
Yes, me too, Lance.
That was the same for me but it was painless and gave the chance to have a little play with this alternative browser! :)
just been looking through this thread trying to understand all this 2-Wire fuss :) but find a lot of dead links in it. even got a 'Get me out of here' one from firefox. its not me having a go and I know you cant keep on top of every link posted but just wanted to point it out in case any one else was looking for info.
is the info on these routers with the version upgrade up to date do you know. Which are the ones to avoid
Baz,A lot of the links refer to setup page addresses for the 2 wire router, so if you haven't got one they won't work. One dead link refers to a hardware download no longer available and the others are addresses for servers BT use to "control" ;D the BT 2700HGV . The tripod links I believe are current and give the up to date knowledge.
ah right thanks Steve
Adding to Steve, the some of the tripod links are no longer valid due to a change on that website from one long page to a much neater and easier system of lots of smaller pages. The best bet is to start here (http://bt2700hgv.tripod.com/ir1002700HGV.htm) which is the contents page and click through to the page you need. :)
Unlike previous versions of the 2700 Firmware, V6 of the the 2700 uses different URLs and so the only router links that work for you are those in sections referring to your firmware.
Hi
My 2700 is running firmware : 5.29.107.19
How do I upgrade to : 5.29.117.6 and is there any real benefit ?
Also I've been offered a newer 2700Hgv (mine seems to have a few odd moments).. but the newver one is running 6.1.1.48-enh.tm
Would you get that ??
Thanks:)
Quote from: EvilPC on Nov 22, 2009, 22:12:58
Hi
How do I upgrade to : 5.29.117.6
The 5.29.107.19 may auto update to the 5.29.117.6, but we do not have access to the newer firmware to do a manual update. It is more likely to upgrade directly to V6 firmware.
I would get the new V6, I have been running one for some month's now and prefer it to the V5's
Thanks... For a £10.. I will :)
The 5.29.107.12 & 19 versions of the firmware will no longer update, the BT servers don't seem to recognize them anymore! . A 5.29.117.6 will update to V6 ( if its not prevented by changing the ACS url , see here http://bt2700hgv.tripod.com/ir1002700HGV.htm ), its a one-way trip though, once updated to V6 you can not go back to an earlier version.
Thanks for that. :thumb:
Wooo... the new router arrived via Royal Mail at 4:50pm !!
Now do I set this up tonight or tomorrow ???
There's no time like the present. ;)
Although an evening sync will be lower than the morning (potentially more stable too).
And the answer was? :)
Doing it now..
How the heck do you change the routers IP Address ??
To get Content / Time Controls working for static IP Address...
I'm having the manually set the network devices to DHCP, then set the DHCP scope so it only gives ONE specific IP Address.
Once the router has found the device, I can set it's content and time settings then static it to the same IP Address given by DCHP.
Repeating this and changing the DHCP Address seems to work !
Which firmware version is it? If the 6, it's different to the 5s which I know, so I can't help, but Alan and Ted will.
Yep v6 : 6.1.1.48.1-enh.tm
Are there any BT addresses I should be blocking in DNS ??
I found this under the firmware Alerts:
64.186.182.161 pbt77.bt.motive.com
Should that be blocked ??
QuoteTo get Content / Time Controls working for static IP Address...
Why do you have to have them as static?. The 2700 fContent / Time Controls and firewall works by device, it doesnt matter what IP has been allocated ( it will allocate the same IP to a particular device anyway!! )
Thanks for the reply.
I like my server to be Static, plus it makes it easier to manage the home network (currently at 18 internet enabled devices :eek4:)
QuoteAre there any BT addresses I should be blocking in DNS ??
I don't believe the old 'dns poisioning' trick works anymore. Any internal router services e.g upgrade provisioning, will bypass any DNS entries.
Any idea how to change the routers IP Address ?
http://bt2700hgv.tripod.com/063.htm shows how to set it up
QuoteAny idea how to change the routers IP Address ?
Not quite sure about V6 but on V5 its in LAN settings, Advanced.
You can also ( presumably on V6 as well ) use the 'Edit Address Allocation' to force the 2700 to allocate Fixed IP's to each of your devices, just select 'Private Fixed...' from the drop down list against each device. Much simpler than allocating statics on each device.
Thanks Glenn
Can't see any mention of changing the IP Address from 192.168.1.254 to something else !!
So using DHCP I can set 'static' them via the router !!
If you check the 'configure manually' in the 'Private Network' section of the Advaned LAn settings page, it should allow you to set router addess and DHCP pool etc. At bottom right of page ( assuming its similar to V5 ) there is a device list and an 'Address Allocation' button.
Thanks.. That does allow me to change the routers IP Address :)
I've set the DHCP Pool to 192.168.1.2 - 192.168.1.250 (255.255.255.0)
Yet under the Private Address Allocation, I can only select 192.168.1.64 - 192.168.1.127
Any ideas why ??
QuoteYet under the Private Address Allocation, I can only select 192.168.1.64 - 192.168.1.127
Not quite sure why that is!, mine has the correct list of addresses but then again my DHCP pool is only 64-127. Maybe it needs a reboot to fully recognise that the DHCP pool has been changed...
Thanks.. I'll try that in a little while !
On V6 you configure IP address allocations at http://192.168.1.254/xslt?PAGE=C_2_3.
Select Manual and you can set the router address and the DHCP pool limits
Thanks. IP Address changed, but still seeing a reduced number of IP addresses in the pool.
Help :(
Quote from: EvilPC on Nov 28, 2009, 13:18:49
Thanks. IP Address changed, but still seeing a reduced number of IP addresses in the pool.
Help :(
What is your subnet mask ?
There is a bug in the V6 firmware that fails to list devices properly when Openzone is disabled. I always enable Openzone, make any changes to devices and then disable it again afterwards.
Subnet is 255.255.255.0
So get all the devices on the LAN connected via DHCP, enable openzone, set their address in the address allocation (Private Fixed) then disable openzone ??
Is that it ?
Thanks :)
Quote from: EvilPC on Nov 28, 2009, 20:24:48
Subnet is 255.255.255.0
So get all the devices on the LAN connected via DHCP, enable openzone, set their address in the address allocation (Private Fixed) then disable openzone ??
Is that it ?
That works for me, hopefully the bug will be cured with the next update.
Hi..
Up and running on the new router.
Enabling OpenZone didn't help with the DHCP Pool, but this is meant to be a known issue that will hopefully be fixed in the next firmware release.
I now have some devices on static and some on DHCP.. and they seem to be working OK !!
I've enabled MAC Filtering and WPA, disabled Openzone and Fuzion.. anything I've missed ??
Thanks :)
No, though I wouldn't bother with MAC filtering myself.
Quote from: Rik on Dec 01, 2009, 16:36:18
No, though I wouldn't bother with MAC filtering myself.
Why ?? Thought it would help stop local's jumping on my wireless.
It's easy to spoof a MAC, a good strong WPA encryption should be enough.
True.. my WPA key is random..
At least it's working..
Curious to see if my wireless disconnect issues now stop !!
My brothers router is running 107.12, is it possible to force an upgrade, or is there a v5 version that has parental controls?
Quote from: Glenn on Dec 26, 2009, 19:16:30
My brothers router is running 107.12, is it possible to force an upgrade, or is there a v5 version that has parental controls?
You can have access controls with 107.12, see the guide on how to do it at TRIPOD (http://bt2700hgv.tripod.com/042.htm), I have used it on a number of these routers
Cheers Alan, I've let him know.
How long does it normally take a 5.29.117.6 firmware router to upgrade to v6 after being hooked up? There is the option to manually force an update check, but it just says I already have the latest.
I'm impressed with the increased downstream sync speed these 2wire routers are achieving over the Netgear DG834N (Broadcom chipset).
Quote from: dujas on May 15, 2010, 17:13:06
How long does it normally take a 5.29.117.6 firmware router to upgrade to v6 after being hooked up? There is the option to manually force an update check, but it just says I already have the latest.
v5.29.117.6 upgrades cannot be forced and may not happen at all.
We recommend people to remain on V5 firmwares to avoid some bugs with the current V6.
Quote from: kinmel on May 15, 2010, 18:03:43
v5.29.117.6 upgrades cannot be forced and may not happen at all.
We recommend people to remain on V5 firmwares to avoid some bugs with the current V6.
I managed to get hold of an unopened 2-wire with manufacture date 48-2007 and v5.29.117.6 firmware, I plugged it in and set it up last night and to my surprise the firmware updated overnight so I now have v6.
I'm impressed with the sync speed which is double what it was but still way down on what it should be, I think I'll leave well alone and see what it looks like in a few days.