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Title: Business V Home Services
Post by: melbob on Feb 20, 2009, 13:22:00
Hi all

I've recently joined Idnet and am really happy with the service so far. So much so that I'm thinking of using them for phone line and internet connection when I move offices shortly. It's great that I can have a monthly contract for both rather than be tied to BT for 12 or even 18 months. I'd just like to ask for any views/advice on which package I should go for and I'm not particularly technical. 

I know that I have to have a business phone line as its a commercial property. Does anyone have any experience of Idnet's business telephone services?

Its the broadband package I'm not entirely sure about. It's only a very small business with 1 to 2 persons. There wouldn't be any downloading of videos etc, just general emailing and surfing. Also, a bit of skype usage. The business packages offer download limits of 10GB or 50GB and I know that 50GB will be far too much for me. Do you think 10GB would be enough though? Also the enhanced care appeals to me as I've recently have terrible problems with my previous ISP. Firstly, I had no service at all for a staggering 6 weeks and then intermittent service for another 8 weeks. Hence the move to Idnet. I am trying to keep costs to a minimum but because of my previous experience, I'm terrified that the same will happen again. On the other hand I could go for Home Max and I am sure that 30GB will be more than enough and I wouldn't have to worry about going over. However, I'm worried that with a Home package, I could be without a connection again as there is no quick turnaround after a fault is reported. I'm not sure though if I'm just being paranoid and whether my experience is highly unusual.

Any views would be much appreciated and thanks for your time. 

Title: Re: Business V Home Services
Post by: Rik on Feb 20, 2009, 13:30:29
Hi and welcome to the forum. :welc: :karma:

I would suggest you talk to IDNet (0800 0267237) and discuss your needs, see what they suggest. I'm on a business package at the moment, and the improved ping times are noticeable due to priority at the exchange. However, unless I monitor them, I'm not really aware of that. For surfing and email, a home package would almost certainly be adequate, though Skype, or any VOIP usage, would be better with that priority.

How much download allowance you would need is hard to assess, but if you really are only surfing, emailing and keeping Windows up to date, then 5-10GB/month will almost certainly be adequate.

If the net usage is mission critical for the business, though, you'd probably want to opt for the business package with SLA as an additional payment. IDNet is buying the phone service from BT, so it's essentially the same package that you'd get there, though at a different price.
Title: Re: Business V Home Services
Post by: Ray on Feb 20, 2009, 13:53:55
I know one thing, Rik, they are certainly fast when you arrange a change of package, I've just upgraded to Home Max and it took 11 minutes from submitting the request on Idnet site to getting an email from James saying it was done.  :thumb: :thumb:
Title: Re: Business V Home Services
Post by: uxbod on Feb 20, 2009, 14:16:02
Home Super Max is worth the extra pennies for priority at the exchange :)
Title: Re: Business V Home Services
Post by: davej99 on Feb 20, 2009, 14:20:28
Quote from: Rik on Feb 20, 2009, 13:30:29
....... I'm on a business package at the moment, and the improved ping times are noticeable due to priority at the exchange. ......

Now I know how you get good pings, Rik, and mine are a bit iffy.  :o
Title: Re: Business V Home Services
Post by: melbob on Feb 20, 2009, 14:30:56
Thanks for the advice Rik. If 10GB should be enough, then it's really just a matter of whether I want the extra protection and priority at the exchange. And given my previous experience, I should probably go for the business package for peace of mind.

You say business package with SLA as an additional payment. Sorry to be dim, but what  does SLA mean?

many thanks

Title: Re: Business V Home Services
Post by: Rik on Feb 20, 2009, 14:37:49
Service level agreement, BT undertake to fix faults within 24 hours or give you compensation. :)
Title: Re: Business V Home Services
Post by: Rik on Feb 20, 2009, 14:39:29
Quote from: davej99 on Feb 20, 2009, 14:20:28
Now I know how you get good pings, Rik, and mine are a bit iffy.  :o

The only difference I've noticed, Dave is shaving about 2ms off the ping, the graphs look the same but run from 19ms to about 26ms with occasional higher spikes. Previously, they ran from 21ms to about 26ms, so my average has improved a bit.
Title: Re: Business V Home Services
Post by: Rik on Feb 20, 2009, 14:40:18
Quote from: Sheltieuk on Feb 20, 2009, 13:53:55
I know one thing, Rik, they are certainly fast when you arrange a change of package, I've just upgraded to Home Max and it took 11 minutes from submitting the request on Idnet site to getting an email from James saying it was done.  :thumb: :thumb:

It's usually done overnight, Ray, if BT are involved or in minutes, as you've found out, when it's only an accounting change. :)
Title: Re: Business V Home Services
Post by: Sebby on Feb 20, 2009, 14:41:54
Welcome to the forum! :karma:
Title: Re: Business V Home Services
Post by: David on Feb 20, 2009, 14:46:56
Interesting thread welcome melbob :karma:
Title: Re: Business V Home Services
Post by: melbob on Feb 20, 2009, 15:16:37
thanks for the welcome guys and for the quick posts  :)
Title: Re: Business V Home Services
Post by: Rik on Feb 20, 2009, 15:24:45
Quick is when we reply in less than 2 minutes. ;)
Title: Re: Business V Home Services
Post by: trophymick on Feb 20, 2009, 15:31:28
Eight minutes waiting for a reply :eek4: Come on guys, it's just not good enough :whistle:  :thumb:
And welcome :thumb:
Title: Re: Business V Home Services
Post by: David on Feb 20, 2009, 15:32:26
They are all in your shed Mick...give em a break  ;D
Title: Re: Business V Home Services
Post by: Rik on Feb 20, 2009, 15:33:36
Oh now we're not. ;D
Title: Re: Business V Home Services
Post by: quandam on Feb 20, 2009, 19:10:46
A little off topic here. I have to say what a different atmosphere this forum has from around 2 years plus ago.

Following this particular thread has shown me how big the difference is and the huge steps the mods have taken. I would say that the influence of Rik has been extremely influential in its improvements and forward thinking.

Thanks mods and in particular Rik for offering a sensible and level headed approach to this particular forum. Keep up the good work!
Title: Re: Business V Home Services
Post by: Simon on Feb 20, 2009, 21:34:33
Nice to hear, thanks Quandam.  :)

:welc:  melbob, I hope you'll be very happy with IDNet.  :thumb:

Title: Re: Business V Home Services
Post by: Lona on Feb 20, 2009, 22:37:49
Rik's head is getting so big he can't get through the door,Quandam. I hope he paid you enough. ;)(http://www.v-rodforums.com/forums/images/smilies/teu26.gif)

:welc: melbob. :)
Title: Re: Business V Home Services
Post by: Ray on Feb 20, 2009, 22:41:39
 :welc: Melbob :karma:
Title: Re: Business V Home Services
Post by: quandam on Feb 21, 2009, 10:19:24
Quote from: Lona on Feb 20, 2009, 22:37:49
Rik's head is getting so big he can't get through the door,Quandam. I hope he paid you enough. ;)(http://www.v-rodforums.com/forums/images/smilies/teu26.gif)

:welc: melbob. :)

Rik said something like, "the cheque is in the post".  :-\
Title: Re: Business V Home Services
Post by: Rik on Feb 21, 2009, 10:25:37
I didn't say where I'd sent it though. ;D

Thanks for those kind comments, Quandam, we really appreciate them. The forum has changed over the past 18 months or so, but I'm only part of that change, the members are the forum, it's they who make the difference. :)
Title: Re: Business V Home Services
Post by: Ray on Feb 21, 2009, 10:26:16
We also should warn you that Rik is an expert at spending other peoples money.  ;D :whistle: :out:
Title: Re: Business V Home Services
Post by: Rik on Feb 21, 2009, 10:27:25
 ;D

Moi?  :angel: Now that Glenn... He's cost me a fortune in meat and cornish pasties.  8)
Title: Re: Business V Home Services
Post by: Ray on Feb 21, 2009, 10:29:42
Quote from: Rik on Feb 21, 2009, 10:27:25
;D

Moi?  :angel: Now that Glenn... He's cost me a fortune in meat and cornish pasties.  8)

I wonder who he learnt that from.  ;D  ::)
Title: Re: Business V Home Services
Post by: Rik on Feb 21, 2009, 10:32:51
;D

I don't know, Ray, give me a hint. :)
Title: Re: Business V Home Services
Post by: Glenn on Feb 21, 2009, 10:36:17
Quote from: Rik on Feb 21, 2009, 10:27:25
;D

Moi?  :angel: Now that Glenn... He's cost me a fortune in meat and cornish pasties.  8)

I had to really twist his arm too :o
Title: Re: Business V Home Services
Post by: Rik on Feb 21, 2009, 10:38:07
The pain, the pain. ;D
Title: Re: Business V Home Services
Post by: Ray on Feb 21, 2009, 10:42:54
Quote from: Glenn on Feb 21, 2009, 10:36:17
I had to really twist his arm too :o

With food involved?  ;D
Title: Re: Business V Home Services
Post by: Rik on Feb 21, 2009, 10:43:54
You know me too well. :) (http://bestsmileys.com/eating1/15.gif)
Title: Re: Business V Home Services
Post by: Ray on Feb 21, 2009, 10:45:00
Yes ;D
Title: Re: Business V Home Services
Post by: Glenn on Feb 21, 2009, 10:45:46
I've just ordered 25 medium pasty's from Ann Muller at http://www.connexions.co.uk/lizardpasty/ collect them when I'm down there for my mum's birthday in 2 weeks time
Title: Re: Business V Home Services
Post by: Glenn on Feb 21, 2009, 10:46:11
They are not all for me :o
Title: Re: Business V Home Services
Post by: Rik on Feb 21, 2009, 10:47:12
I thought we'd eat our way through the first lot before moving on to her. :) Of course, if you fancy a detour on your way home, Glenn, we'd be happy to organise a tasting.  :evil:
Title: Re: Business V Home Services
Post by: Glenn on Feb 21, 2009, 10:53:22
You are only 60 miles up the road ;)
Title: Re: Business V Home Services
Post by: Rik on Feb 21, 2009, 10:54:04
Precisely, we'll have the chips and beans ready.
Title: Re: Business V Home Services
Post by: Glenn on Feb 21, 2009, 11:04:23
You don't have a pasty with chips & beans  :o If brought from the shop, it's eaten straight from the brown paper bag
Title: Re: Business V Home Services
Post by: Rik on Feb 21, 2009, 11:05:05
Prove it.  ;D
Title: Re: Business V Home Services
Post by: Glenn on Feb 21, 2009, 11:31:23
Go to Cornwall and find out ;)
Title: Re: Business V Home Services
Post by: Rik on Feb 21, 2009, 11:34:16
That might be a bit difficult. :(
Title: Re: Business V Home Services
Post by: Glenn on Feb 21, 2009, 11:55:06
It won't be in the near future, you are getting out and about more each month
Title: Re: Business V Home Services
Post by: Rik on Feb 21, 2009, 11:57:01
Only to the Doc, the dentist, the opthalmologist and the cardiologist. :)
Title: Re: Business V Home Services
Post by: Glenn on Feb 21, 2009, 12:29:32
Small steps, but they all count, don't forget New years eve too
Title: Re: Business V Home Services
Post by: vitriol on Feb 21, 2009, 12:32:29
Welcome :karma:
Title: Re: Business V Home Services
Post by: quandam on Feb 21, 2009, 12:35:00
Quote from: Sheltieuk on Feb 21, 2009, 10:26:16
We also should warn you that Rik is an expert at spending other peoples money.  ;D :whistle: :out:

Thanks for the heads up :thumb: :o
Title: Re: Business V Home Services
Post by: Glenn on Feb 21, 2009, 12:35:57
I'm getting good at spending Rik's money ;D
Title: Re: Business V Home Services
Post by: Rik on Feb 21, 2009, 12:37:05
:lol:
Title: Re: Business V Home Services
Post by: Simon on Feb 21, 2009, 14:12:47
Quote from: Rik on Feb 21, 2009, 11:57:01
Only to the Doc, the dentist, the opthalmologist and the cardiologist. :)

Well, they have them in Cornwall, what's your problem?  ;D
Title: Re: Business V Home Services
Post by: Rik on Feb 21, 2009, 15:07:15
The bit in between. :)
Title: Re: Business V Home Services
Post by: Simon on Feb 21, 2009, 17:41:54
 ;D
Title: Re: Business V Home Services
Post by: Philip on Feb 21, 2009, 20:04:45
Quote from: Glenn on Feb 21, 2009, 11:31:23
Go to Cornwall and find out ;)
:eek4:
Title: Re: Business V Home Services
Post by: Rik on Feb 22, 2009, 10:42:49
Don't worry, Philip - at least yet. :)
Title: Re: Business V Home Services
Post by: Glenn on Feb 22, 2009, 10:50:27
Part of Cornwall (Well Devon) is coming to Milton Keynes
Title: Re: Business V Home Services
Post by: Rik on Feb 22, 2009, 10:54:30
Which part? :)
Title: Re: Business V Home Services
Post by: Glenn on Feb 22, 2009, 11:00:24
The Plymouth bit
Title: Re: Business V Home Services
Post by: Rik on Feb 22, 2009, 11:00:49
Of course. :)