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Title: Google start behavioural advertising
Post by: Gary on Mar 12, 2009, 12:51:56
Google vis thier doubelclick cookies are using surfing habits to cough up adverts, you can opt out, but if you clear your cookies you would need to opt out again, there is a plugin for IE and Firefox to opt out permanently but not for Safari, Opera or Chrome. Story here from el reg. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/03/11/google_behavioral_advertising/
Title: Re: Google start behavioural advertising
Post by: Rik on Mar 12, 2009, 12:52:49
I never look at the ads anyway. :)
Title: Re: Google start behavioural advertising
Post by: Gary on Mar 12, 2009, 12:57:03
Quote from: Rik on Mar 12, 2009, 12:52:49
I never look at the ads anyway. :)
I never see them as I use AdMuncher  ;D but its useful for those that don't want to have their browsing habits turned into ads. God knows what mine would look like if I could see them  :evil:
Title: Re: Google start behavioural advertising
Post by: Simon on Mar 12, 2009, 13:01:33
Apart from those I choose to save, all my cookies are deleted after each browsing session, so it doesn't worry me.
Title: Re: Google start behavioural advertising
Post by: Gary on Mar 12, 2009, 13:10:28
Quote from: Simon on Mar 12, 2009, 13:01:33
Apart from those I choose to save, all my cookies are deleted after each browsing session, so it doesn't worry me.
Thats the thing each time you delete the cookies, Simon, google puts the tracking back on next session, the opt out plugin stops that it appears, not that I trust Google that much
Title: Re: Google start behavioural advertising
Post by: Simon on Mar 12, 2009, 13:12:50
I only use Google on an ad-hoc basis, so it still doesn't really bother me, Gary.  :)
Title: Re: Google start behavioural advertising
Post by: Gary on Mar 12, 2009, 13:26:59
Quote from: Simon on Mar 12, 2009, 13:12:50
I only use Google on an ad-hoc basis, so it still doesn't really bother me, Gary.  :)
Best way Simon, but for those that use youtube loads I can imagine it would be quite a pain
Title: Re: Google start behavioural advertising
Post by: kinmel on Mar 12, 2009, 17:35:14
If I remember correctly, don't paid for links appear on the right hand side of the page ?

If these are the same thing, then no worries, because the CustomizeGoogle addin already kills all such cr*p in my Firefox   :thumb:
Title: Re: Google start behavioural advertising
Post by: Gary on Mar 13, 2009, 08:44:59
Quote from: kinmel on Mar 12, 2009, 17:35:14
If I remember correctly, don't paid for links appear on the right hand side of the page ?

If these are the same thing, then no worries, because the CustomizeGoogle addin already kills all such cr*p in my Firefox   :thumb:
These are new I think but same idea, as the doubleclick thing watches you all day and then when you go to google dumps what you have been browsing on you as ads, admuncher kills them all for me so no worries but I hate being snooped on, but we all are anyway.
Title: Re: Google start behavioural advertising
Post by: Niall on Mar 14, 2009, 09:30:01
With regards to adverts, I've recently noticed that on a few websites I visit they have an advert that is specific to my area, and by area I mean town. At first I thought that obviously the websites involved must be a partner with another site that I'm signed up with, so they have my location info which is stored in a cookie. I checked my cookies but there actually weren't any other than that visit (I forgot I clear all cookies on browser exit), and this was the first site I visited, so where is this info stored? It's certainly not in a cookie on my system so are they recording the IP for the cookie so they can spam specific adverts at you when it's recorded against you at some point? If that is the case and you've got a dynamic IP address, it'd be possible for other people to get adverts not specific to them.
Title: Re: Google start behavioural advertising
Post by: cavillas on Mar 14, 2009, 09:55:57
Ignoring the adverts is the best thing to do and it has no effect on browsing or searching anyway.  Much like tv the adverts come on but I ignore them as a minor distraction and never take notice of things they are advertising.
Title: Re: Google start behavioural advertising
Post by: Simon on Mar 14, 2009, 10:57:32
Quote from: Niall on Mar 14, 2009, 09:30:01
With regards to adverts, I've recently noticed that on a few websites I visit they have an advert that is specific to my area, and by area I mean town. At first I thought that obviously the websites involved must be a partner with another site that I'm signed up with, so they have my location info which is stored in a cookie. I checked my cookies but there actually weren't any other than that visit (I forgot I clear all cookies on browser exit), and this was the first site I visited, so where is this info stored? It's certainly not in a cookie on my system so are they recording the IP for the cookie so they can spam specific adverts at you when it's recorded against you at some point? If that is the case and you've got a dynamic IP address, it'd be possible for other people to get adverts not specific to them.

I've noticed that too, Niall, and also wondered how they tracked me.  I'm sure I've not seen any of those girls round here!
Title: Re: Google start behavioural advertising
Post by: Rik on Mar 14, 2009, 11:01:43
This came up a few weeks ago, iirc. They seem to know where I am, but other people they got completely wrong. It's not as simple as IP address tracking, they're associating that with other data. We clearly leave a good trail.
Title: Re: Google start behavioural advertising
Post by: trophymick on Mar 14, 2009, 12:07:30
Quote from: cavillas on Mar 14, 2009, 09:55:57
Ignoring the adverts is the best thing to do and it has no effect on browsing or searching anyway.  Much like tv the adverts come on but I ignore them as a minor distraction and never take notice of things they are advertising.

I always mute the TV when adverts come on, the sound always seems to rise :dunno:
Title: Re: Google start behavioural advertising
Post by: Glenn on Mar 14, 2009, 12:10:42
Try watching MotorsTV when the ads come on, you get deafened
Title: Re: Google start behavioural advertising
Post by: Rik on Mar 14, 2009, 12:10:53
That's a regular complaint, which Ofcom have explained away as being caused by greater audio compression used in ads. Yeah, right.
Title: Re: Google start behavioural advertising
Post by: Glenn on Mar 14, 2009, 12:12:12
Nothing to do with the sound rising and making you look to see what caused it then
Title: Re: Google start behavioural advertising
Post by: Rik on Mar 14, 2009, 12:23:20
Best thing to do is use Sky+ and skip all ads. :)
Title: Re: Google start behavioural advertising
Post by: Sebby on Mar 14, 2009, 17:49:21
:iagree:
Title: Re: Google start behavioural advertising
Post by: LesD on Mar 14, 2009, 19:58:20
I have just downloaded and installed the opt out plug-in from Google.
Simple and painless.  :thumb:
If everyone does it the likes of Google just might get the message. They rely on complacency to get away with it.

Now are you all signed up to telephone and postal preferential services? I trust you are!  ;)

I simply don't want to be targeted with junk advertising in any shape or form.  :no:  :no:  :no:
Title: Re: Google start behavioural advertising
Post by: Ann on Mar 14, 2009, 21:30:53
I installed the plug in too.  I also use AdMuncher so wouldn't see the ads anyway but still they may as well not record my activity.
Title: Re: Google start behavioural advertising
Post by: Sebby on Mar 15, 2009, 01:19:44
I have now opted out. :)
Title: Re: Google start behavioural advertising
Post by: Ray on Mar 15, 2009, 09:43:31
Please can someone post a link to download the plug in, can't seem to find it.  :)
Title: Re: Google start behavioural advertising
Post by: Gary on Mar 15, 2009, 10:12:59
Quote from: Ann on Mar 14, 2009, 21:30:53
I installed the plug in too.  I also use AdMuncher so wouldn't see the ads anyway but still they may as well not record my activity.

I use AdMuncher as well Ann is really saves on page loading times, since Feb 2nd when I put it on my Laptop its blocked 14,738 ads and saved 115mb of bandwidth,
Title: Re: Google start behavioural advertising
Post by: Niall on Mar 15, 2009, 10:17:18
Quote from: Sheltieuk on Mar 15, 2009, 09:43:31
Please can someone post a link to download the plug in, can't seem to find it.  :)

I didn't even know there was one!

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=google+opt+out+plug+in&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a
Title: Re: Google start behavioural advertising
Post by: Gary on Mar 15, 2009, 10:18:36
Quote from: Sheltieuk on Mar 15, 2009, 09:43:31
Please can someone post a link to download the plug in, can't seem to find it.  :)
http://www.google.com/ads/preferences/plugin/
Title: Re: Google start behavioural advertising
Post by: Niall on Mar 15, 2009, 10:19:16
Quote from: Gary on Mar 15, 2009, 10:18:36
http://www.google.com/ads/preferences/plugin/

Beat ya  :P
Title: Re: Google start behavioural advertising
Post by: Gary on Mar 15, 2009, 10:21:31
Quote from: Niall on Mar 15, 2009, 10:19:16
Beat ya  :P
;D Its Sunday, well that's my excuse  ;)
Title: Re: Google start behavioural advertising
Post by: Ray on Mar 15, 2009, 10:28:34
 :thnks: Niall and Gary, downloaded and installed.  :thumb: