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Title: Freeze turns phones into passwords
Post by: somanyholes on May 08, 2009, 14:09:04
thought this might be of interest to some....

QuoteCore system software maker Phoenix Technologies announced on Wednesday an add-on program for Windows XP and Vista that links users' phones with their computers — walk away and the system will lock automatically.

The software, dubbed Phoenix Freeze, uses a mobile device's Bluetooth feature to pair a phone with a laptop or desktop system. When a user moves a certain distance from the computer, the program will lock the desktop; when the user returns, the program will automatically unlock the system.

They seem to offer some other services that look quite good. Have to say though i hope they have properly implemented bluetooth security and that the passwords for your machine aren't on your phone. i.e. if someone gets your phone they get your password. Interesting none the less.


http://www.securityfocus.com/brief/958
Title: Re: Freeze turns phones into passwords
Post by: Rik on May 08, 2009, 14:16:21
Interesting idea, So, but like fingerprint readers I'm left wondering what happens when the technology fails.
Title: Re: Freeze turns phones into passwords
Post by: Steve on May 08, 2009, 14:22:49
Quote from: Rik on May 08, 2009, 14:16:21
Interesting idea, So, but like fingerprint readers I'm left wondering what happens when the technology fails.

Although I can usually find my fingerprints but not always my phone
Title: Re: Freeze turns phones into passwords
Post by: somanyholes on May 08, 2009, 14:23:21
relying on automated systems isn't always good is it ...
Title: Re: Freeze turns phones into passwords
Post by: Rik on May 08, 2009, 14:25:17
Quote from: stevethegas on May 08, 2009, 14:22:49
Although I can usually find my fingerprints but not always my phone

Mine are all over my NC10 lid. :)
Title: Re: Freeze turns phones into passwords
Post by: Rik on May 08, 2009, 14:25:28
Quote from: somanyholes on May 08, 2009, 14:23:21
relying on automated systems isn't always good is it ...

No. :)
Title: Re: Freeze turns phones into passwords
Post by: Steve on May 08, 2009, 14:36:54
I would presume in this scenario there is an additional manual login otherwise just "borrowing" someone's phone will allow access. What class of bluetooth are mobile phones? As class 1 gives a max of 32 feet for connection which is a long way away.

Edit: Class 2 is 10 metres not class 1 which is 100 metres.
Title: Re: Freeze turns phones into passwords
Post by: somanyholes on May 08, 2009, 14:50:24
QuoteI would presume in this scenario there is an additional manual login otherwise just "borrowing" someone's phone will allow access. What class of bluetooth are mobile phones? As class 1 gives a max of 32 feet for connection which is a long way away.

as far as i can see steve this is only used to lock workstations not unlock them, so in theory the phone should not hold the password.. As far as distance goes it says you can change the power levels within the app to finetune the distance.
Title: Re: Freeze turns phones into passwords
Post by: Sebby on May 08, 2009, 16:48:02
Quote from: Rik on May 08, 2009, 14:16:21
Interesting idea, So, but like fingerprint readers I'm left wondering what happens when the technology fails.

I know what you mean. :dunno:
Title: Re: Freeze turns phones into passwords
Post by: Rik on May 08, 2009, 16:51:17
Look, no computer. :(
Title: Re: Freeze turns phones into passwords
Post by: Simon on May 08, 2009, 17:24:43
I'd be reluctant to use such a system, as phones are easily damaged or lost, and what happens then?
Title: Re: Freeze turns phones into passwords
Post by: Rik on May 08, 2009, 17:25:34
You re-install Windows?
Title: Re: Freeze turns phones into passwords
Post by: Glenn on May 08, 2009, 17:27:07
What happens with a fingerprint scanner that fails, you log in normally  :whistle:
Title: Re: Freeze turns phones into passwords
Post by: Rik on May 08, 2009, 17:27:44
Hopefully, there would be that safety net. :)
Title: Re: Freeze turns phones into passwords
Post by: Lance on May 10, 2009, 22:49:35
There is on my laptop, Rik :)
Title: Re: Freeze turns phones into passwords
Post by: Gary on May 10, 2009, 23:14:50
Same on mine, tbh the fingerprint scanner is a pain in the  :whistle: anyway
Title: Re: Freeze turns phones into passwords
Post by: Rik on May 11, 2009, 09:28:33
Quote from: Lance on May 10, 2009, 22:49:35
There is on my laptop, Rik :)

Handy if you're using it on the high wire then. ;D
Title: Re: Freeze turns phones into passwords
Post by: gizmo71 on May 11, 2009, 11:35:34
Quote from: Simon on May 08, 2009, 17:24:43
I'd be reluctant to use such a system, as phones are easily damaged or lost, and what happens then?

Nothing:

Quote from: somanyholes on May 08, 2009, 14:50:24
as far as i can see steve this is only used to lock workstations not unlock them,

Can't really see the point though if it can't unlock them, how is it really significantly better than having the machine lock after 5 minutes idle?
Title: Re: Freeze turns phones into passwords
Post by: somanyholes on May 11, 2009, 13:07:46
QuoteCan't really see the point though if it can't unlock them, how is it really significantly better than having the machine lock after 5 minutes idle?

You really wouldn't want a phone that unlocked your box without your specifc approval. It defeats the point of having a logon really. With proximity you can at least know that you can see your machine. 5 mins is a long time. You can still be well out of sight of your machine in 1 minute and if your machine locked every minute that you aren't using it, well that would be highly annoying.