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Title: Will i ever connect at 8mb again
Post by: Colin Burns on Jul 03, 2009, 14:49:32
as the question states will my line ever sync at the full 8128 again

DSL Line (Wire Pair):     Line 1 (inner pair)
Protocol:    G.DMT Annex A
Downstream Rate:    6336 kbps
Upstream Rate:    832 kbps
Channel:    Fast
Current Noise Margin:    15.0 dB (Downstream) 16.0 dB (Upstream)
Current Attenuation:    24.8 dB (Downstream) 13.0 dB (Upstream)
Current Output Power:    19.8 dBm (Downstream) 12.4 dBm (Upstream)
DSLAM Vendor Information:    Country: {0xB5} Vendor: {TSTC} Specific: {0x00}
PVC Info:    0/38


Im just hoping that the problem was caused by the recent thunder storm and not BT shoving a yet another lampost in further down my street.

thanks

oh and this is from the test sockect
Title: Re: Will i ever connect at 8mb again
Post by: Simon on Jul 03, 2009, 17:16:39
Don't know what to say, Colin, but I don't like seeing new threads unanswered, so just... good luck!  :)
Title: Re: Will i ever connect at 8mb again
Post by: Technical Ben on Jul 03, 2009, 17:48:33
I did not know BT install Lamp posts?
Give it a few days. It apparently takes up to 5 days to get a higher sync etc. Someone here mentioned reconnecting and resetting the router at a really quiet time of day, to get a better sync rate.
Title: Re: Will i ever connect at 8mb again
Post by: Glenn on Jul 03, 2009, 17:54:21
Your NM is at 15db so it will take a few days for to drop
Title: Re: Will i ever connect at 8mb again
Post by: Gary on Jul 03, 2009, 18:16:05
What was your noise margin before? I have an 8128 line with interleaving off and a 7150 profile and my snr is 14. I imagine a lightning strike would have caused chaos on the lines so i'm sure it will rise again in a few days
Title: Re: Will i ever connect at 8mb again
Post by: Colin Burns on Jul 03, 2009, 19:02:27
my SNR was between 9 and 10 well a sub contractor installed the lampost.  its the 4th one to be replaced i think they must have noticed the hudge rotten holes in the bottom of them
Title: Re: Will i ever connect at 8mb again
Post by: Sebby on Jul 03, 2009, 21:44:46
As Glenn mentions, you have a 15dB target SNRM, which is preventing you from achieving full sync. From the stats, there's no real reason for it. If you suspect a lamp post is to blame, you must get onto the council. Once sorted, try and get IDNet to get BT to lower it automatically - it's rare that it drops by itself.
Title: Re: Will i ever connect at 8mb again
Post by: Colin Burns on Jul 07, 2009, 17:08:18
gave up on the waiting and just went for the Ring IDnet and ask phase never seen BT do somthing so fast.
Title: Re: Will i ever connect at 8mb again
Post by: Danni on Jul 07, 2009, 17:13:11
Quote from: Sebby on Jul 03, 2009, 21:44:46
As Glenn mentions, you have a 15dB target SNRM, which is preventing you from achieving full sync. From the stats, there's no real reason for it. If you suspect a lamp post is to blame, you must get onto the council. Once sorted, try and get IDNet to get BT to lower it automatically - it's rare that it drops by itself.

Colin works for the council- so indirectly it's his fault :P
Title: Re: Will i ever connect at 8mb again
Post by: Rik on Jul 07, 2009, 17:13:35
Hoisted on his own petard, eh? ;D
Title: Re: Will i ever connect at 8mb again
Post by: Colin Burns on Jul 07, 2009, 17:16:23
luckily it was enterprise that installed the telegraph pole
Title: Re: Will i ever connect at 8mb again
Post by: Colin Burns on Jul 09, 2009, 14:31:43
woop woop

DSL Connection Details
DSL Line (Wire Pair):    Line 1 (inner pair)
Protocol:    G.DMT Annex A
Downstream Rate:    8128 kbps
Upstream Rate:    832 kbps
Channel:    Fast
Current Noise Margin:    9.0 dB (Downstream) 16.0 dB (Upstream)
Current Attenuation:    25.0 dB (Downstream) 13.0 dB (Upstream)
Current Output Power:    19.8 dBm (Downstream) 12.3 dBm (Upstream)
DSLAM Vendor Information:    Country: {0xB5} Vendor: {TSTC} Specific: {0x00}
PVC Info:    0/38


nice to have it back
Title: Re: Will i ever connect at 8mb again
Post by: Rik on Jul 09, 2009, 14:33:45
 :thumb:
Title: Re: Will i ever connect at 8mb again
Post by: Colin Burns on Jul 10, 2009, 20:33:11
oh well that lasted noise margin jumped back to 15db after the router crashing  :rant2: so im stuck at 6 MB again. can any one tell me how to access the router logs for the 2wire
Title: Re: Will i ever connect at 8mb again
Post by: Sebby on Jul 11, 2009, 00:20:21
http://www.idnetters.co.uk/forums/index.php?topic=5295.0

:)
Title: Re: Will i ever connect at 8mb again
Post by: Colin Burns on Jul 20, 2009, 07:10:51
so much for syncing at 8mb

DSL Connection Details
DSL Line (Wire Pair):    Line 1 (inner pair)
Protocol:    G.DMT Annex A
Downstream Rate:    3296 kbps
Upstream Rate:    832 kbps
Channel:    Fast
Current Noise Margin:    15.0 dB (Downstream) 7.0 dB (Upstream)
Current Attenuation:    25.9 dB (Downstream) 22.5 dB (Upstream)
Current Output Power:    19.8 dBm (Downstream) -0.2 dBm (Upstream)
DSLAM Vendor Information:    Country: {0xB5} Vendor: {TSTC} Specific: {0x00}
PVC Info:    0/38


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is it just the profile reducing my sync speed  connnected with my very stable line becoming unstable.

Title: Re: Will i ever connect at 8mb again
Post by: Rik on Jul 20, 2009, 09:51:44
Other way round, Colin, the sync speed is reducing the profile.
Title: Re: Will i ever connect at 8mb again
Post by: Colin Burns on Jul 20, 2009, 14:23:23
yea but its really starting to annoy me
Title: Re: Will i ever connect at 8mb again
Post by: Rik on Jul 20, 2009, 15:33:19
Unless you can get the stability back, and the target NM down, speeds aren't going to get a lot better I'm afraid. :(
Title: Re: Will i ever connect at 8mb again
Post by: Colin Burns on Jul 20, 2009, 20:40:41
the hurtfull thing is my TNM is changing but its my upstream one as when i synced at 3mb it went to 7 and after being out all day its gone to 11 and im syncing at 6 ish

also wise rik how important is the power out put as it seems to have fell on the floor for the upstream

DSL Line (Wire Pair):     Line 1 (inner pair)
Protocol:    G.DMT Annex A
Downstream Rate:    6272 kbps
Upstream Rate:    832 kbps
Channel:    Fast
Current Noise Margin:    15.0 dB (Downstream) 11.0 dB (Upstream)
Current Attenuation:    26.2 dB (Downstream) 22.0 dB (Upstream)
Current Output Power:    19.8 dBm (Downstream) 1.8 dBm (Upstream)
DSLAM Vendor Information:    Country: {0xB5} Vendor: {TSTC} Specific: {0x00}
PVC Info:    0/38
Title: Re: Will i ever connect at 8mb again
Post by: Sebby on Jul 21, 2009, 00:26:32
I never really know what the output power means, but that upstream does seem lower that I've ever seen before...
Title: Re: Will i ever connect at 8mb again
Post by: Rik on Jul 21, 2009, 09:53:49
I don't understand the power output stats either, I'm guessing they are specific to the needs of the DSLAM/Router combination. Upstream doesn't have a target NM, Colin.
Title: Re: Will i ever connect at 8mb again
Post by: Colin Burns on Jul 25, 2009, 05:38:26
well its starting to look like my stability is coming back

DSL Line (Wire Pair):     Line 1 (inner pair)
Protocol:    G.DMT Annex A
Downstream Rate:    6944 kbps
Upstream Rate:    832 kbps
Channel:    Fast
Current Noise Margin:    12.0 dB (Downstream) 15.0 dB (Upstream)
Current Attenuation:    25.4 dB (Downstream) 12.5 dB (Upstream)
Current Output Power:    19.8 dBm (Downstream) 12.3 dBm (Upstream)
DSLAM Vendor Information:    Country: {0xB5} Vendor: {TSTC} Specific: {0x00}
PVC Info:    0/38

hope fully it will drop down to 9db and i can get my sync back once again
Title: Re: Will i ever connect at 8mb again
Post by: Simon on Jul 25, 2009, 09:40:23
Good luck!
Title: Re: Will i ever connect at 8mb again
Post by: Colin Burns on Aug 10, 2009, 00:13:48
is this caused by syncing at night or is BT still not my friend

DSL Connection Details
DSL Line (Wire Pair):    Line 1 (inner pair)
Protocol:    G.DMT Annex A
Downstream Rate:    7840 kbps
Upstream Rate:    832 kbps
Channel:    Fast
Current Noise Margin:    9.0 dB (Downstream) 15.0 dB (Upstream)
Current Attenuation:    25.1 dB (Downstream) 13.0 dB (Upstream)
Current Output Power:    19.8 dBm (Downstream) 12.4 dBm (Upstream)
DSLAM Vendor Information:    Country: {0xB5} Vendor: {TSTC} Specific: {0x00}
PVC Info:    0/38

as the numbers are very similar to what would normaly give me 8128 but im drunk so am probably reading every thing wrong  :comp:
Title: Re: Will i ever connect at 8mb again
Post by: Rik on Aug 10, 2009, 09:37:08
It looks like you've had your noise margin pushed to 9db, Coling, which is stopping maximum sync.
Title: Re: Will i ever connect at 8mb again
Post by: rireed3 on Aug 10, 2009, 10:41:54
It's still not great for 25 db attenuation.

Also, I've seen the attenuation vary between 24.8 and 26.2.  Not sure what that's about -- has the house wiring, ring wire, etc. been checked?

Richard
Title: Re: Will i ever connect at 8mb again
Post by: Colin Burns on Aug 10, 2009, 20:40:57
it has it went to pot when BT had the idea of replacing the telegraph pole 1 down for the one im on.

rik my noise margin has gone down from 15 to 12 and now to 9 where it would normaly be for a 8128 sync


Stupid BT

Title: Re: Will i ever connect at 8mb again
Post by: Rik on Aug 11, 2009, 10:07:31
That's fast, Colin.
Title: Re: Will i ever connect at 8mb again
Post by: Colin Burns on Aug 11, 2009, 15:51:46
a month fast im either impatent or bt just operate sloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow
Title: Re: Will i ever connect at 8mb again
Post by: Rik on Aug 11, 2009, 15:52:45
Next question? ;D
Title: Re: Will i ever connect at 8mb again
Post by: Colin Burns on Aug 11, 2009, 15:54:21
lol will i ever re sync at 8mb

hehehe

go back to the orginal point of the thread
Title: Re: Will i ever connect at 8mb again
Post by: Rik on Aug 11, 2009, 15:55:50
Maybe... BT move in mysterious ways, unaccountable, it seems, to anyone. :(
Title: Re: Will i ever connect at 8mb again
Post by: Colin Burns on Aug 11, 2009, 15:56:30
hahahha true
Title: Re: Will i ever connect at 8mb again
Post by: Danni on Aug 11, 2009, 16:17:54
DSL Line (Wire Pair):    Line 1 (inner pair)
Protocol:    G.DMT Annex A
Downstream Rate:    8128 kbps
Upstream Rate:    832 kbps
Channel:    Fast
Current Noise Margin:    9.0 dB (Downstream) 11.0 dB (Upstream)
Current Attenuation:    29.3 dB (Downstream) 16.0 dB (Upstream)
Current Output Power:    19.8 dBm (Downstream) 12.4 dBm (Upstream)
DSLAM Vendor Information:    Country: {0xB5} Vendor: {TSTC} Specific: {0x00}
PVC Info:    0/38

:P (Also, 9dB is where his noise margin used to be, with full sync.)

I'll come poke your connection if you can help me and Johan find a van you can drive. We have until Saturday now...
Title: Re: Will i ever connect at 8mb again
Post by: Glenn on Aug 11, 2009, 18:07:53
How about Hiverna Ltd on Number One Industrial estate?
Title: Re: Will i ever connect at 8mb again
Post by: Colin Burns on Aug 11, 2009, 21:04:28
that just makes me jelous danni
Title: Re: Will i ever connect at 8mb again
Post by: Colin Burns on Aug 24, 2009, 19:09:07
well its only taken since the 3rd of July but here are the stats

DSL Connection Details
DSL Line (Wire Pair):    Line 1 (inner pair)
Protocol:    G.DMT Annex A
Downstream Rate:    8128 kbps
Upstream Rate:    832 kbps
Channel:    Fast
Current Noise Margin:    9.0 dB (Downstream) 15.0 dB (Upstream)
Current Attenuation:    25.5 dB (Downstream) 13.0 dB (Upstream)
Current Output Power:    19.8 dBm (Downstream) 12.3 dBm (Upstream)
DSLAM Vendor Information:    Country: {0xB


its a jolly good day

if you dont include the rain
Title: Re: Will i ever connect at 8mb again
Post by: Rik on Aug 24, 2009, 19:24:26
Looks good, Colin.  :thumb:
Title: Re: Will i ever connect at 8mb again
Post by: Colin Burns on Aug 24, 2009, 20:11:53
now i just need to pray that it sticks and the evil noise does not return
Title: Re: Will i ever connect at 8mb again
Post by: Rik on Aug 25, 2009, 08:38:40
If you find a prayer that works, do share it with the rest of us. ;)