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Title: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Sep 10, 2009, 22:25:27
Snow Leopard 10.6.1 on software update

Improves compatibility with some Sierra Wireless 3G modems
Addresses an issue in which some printer compatibility drivers might not appear properly in the Add Printer browser
Addresses an issue that might cause DVD playback to stop unexpectedly
Addresses an issue that might make it difficult to remove an item from the Dock
Resolves an issue in which the Command-Option-T keyboard shortcut would sometimes bring up the special characters menu in applications such as Mail and TextEdit
Addresses instances in which auto account setup in Mail might not work
Resolves issues when sending mail with certain SMTP servers
Addresses an issue in which Motion 4 could become unresponsive
Includes an update to Adobe Flash Player plug-in version 10.0.32.18
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: somanyholes on Sep 10, 2009, 22:39:46
QuoteIncludes an update to Adobe Flash Player plug-in version 10.0.32.18

would that be because they bundled an insecure version in the previous update ;)
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Sep 10, 2009, 22:49:03
Quote from: somanyholes on Sep 10, 2009, 22:39:46
would that be because they bundled an insecure version in the previous update ;)

I presume 10.6.0 went to the pressing with the then insecure but current version. Although many knew no update was made available via Apple until now.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Sebby on Sep 10, 2009, 23:25:59
Quote from: somanyholes on Sep 10, 2009, 22:39:46
would that be because they bundled an insecure version in the previous update ;)

No, it's because the version that came with the release build of Snow Leopard contained an insecure (but current at the time of compiling) build of Adobe Flash Player.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: somanyholes on Sep 11, 2009, 07:06:09
you apple's really do bite :)
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Glenn on Sep 11, 2009, 07:31:53
They put you to sleep, just ask Snow White ;D
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Nov 04, 2009, 09:23:08
Shockwave player 11.5.2.602 for Mac (and windows I imagine) installs on Snow leopard.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Nov 12, 2009, 10:55:58
Microsoft Office 2008 for Mac 12.2.3 Update released on Tuesday. Critical security update.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Nov 12, 2009, 11:43:26
I have been a bit puzzled by this as there is an associated Entourage web services edition listed also, which I have used until recently . I tried to install over the version of web services I have only to find it refused ,when I looked at my version installed some time ago they both are showing as the same release 13.0.3 perhaps the 12.2.3 updated that also??????

Found the answer it updates that as well via 12.2.3

http://blogs.msdn.com/nadyne/archive/2009/11/10/office-mac-2008-12-2-3-entourage-for-web-services-13-0-3-office-2004-11-5-6-available-today.aspx

Not sure about the link its ok in preview but gives an error in safari for me when posted? Or only sometimes ;D Well it is Safari 4.0.4 perhaps its the first bug.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Lance on Nov 12, 2009, 12:39:39
Hmmm, just tried the link (using firefox) six times... It worked on the 1st, 3rd and 5th times :)
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Nov 12, 2009, 12:42:59
How odd ;D
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Nov 12, 2009, 20:43:17
Does not work for me either, failed first time in Firefox and Safari
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Nov 25, 2009, 00:38:51
iPhoto 8.1.1 has been released for update via software updater or download, bugfixes for face recognition and performance and support for iPod
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Rik on Nov 25, 2009, 09:38:12
Thanks, Gary.  :thumb:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: lozcart on Dec 03, 2009, 22:11:02
Java update for Snow Leopard and Leopard now available via software update.

Improves reliability, security and compatibility.

Requires computer restart.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Dec 04, 2009, 07:09:51
Quote from: lozcart on Dec 03, 2009, 22:11:02
Java update for Snow Leopard and Leopard now available via software update.

Improves reliability, security and compatibility.

Requires computer restart.
Also leaves a permissions issue "Permissions differ on "usr/share/derby", should be drwxr-xr-x , they are lrwxr-xr-x" you can try repairing it, it says its been repaired but it hasn't. The reason being the permissions database has not been updated correctly.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Jan 08, 2010, 18:49:13
Bonjour Update 2010-001 v1.0
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Rik on Jan 08, 2010, 18:53:58
Shouldn't that be Bon Soir, Gary?  :whistle:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Jan 08, 2010, 19:09:27
Quote from: Rik on Jan 08, 2010, 18:53:58
Shouldn't that be Bon Soir, Gary?  :whistle:
:grn:  ;D
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Jan 09, 2010, 08:40:52
Quote from: Gary on Jan 08, 2010, 18:49:13
Bonjour Update 2010-001 v1.0

Have you considered Apple TV,Gary?
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Jan 09, 2010, 09:46:53
Quote from: Steve on Jan 09, 2010, 08:40:52
Have you considered Apple TV,Gary?
I have its just a matter of saving for that Steve, just had to put four new tyres on the car at a cost of £535 (225 40 R18 Z) but that will be my next purchase.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Jan 09, 2010, 10:16:17
Gary,Do you know the current state of Boxee in the UK?
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Jan 09, 2010, 20:59:10
Quote from: Steve on Jan 09, 2010, 10:16:17
Gary,Do you know the current state of Boxee in the UK?
Hulu still does not work, I hope that comes to the UK, its a good way of streaming media from my Mac without having to pay iTunes fees thats for sure.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Jan 10, 2010, 13:41:35
I think with a bit of modification you can get BBC iplayer?
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Jan 10, 2010, 18:26:18
Quote from: Steve on Jan 10, 2010, 13:41:35
I think with a bit of modification you can get BBC iplayer?
They are actually releasing their own box its dead ugly but it may be a good thing as a few firms are getting into this field now
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Jan 16, 2010, 10:02:14
May be of interest Boxee Beta on ATV http://forum.boxee.tv/showthread.php?t=14664 Early days for this beta I think.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Rik on Jan 16, 2010, 11:10:12
Thanks, Steve. :thumb:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Jan 19, 2010, 21:47:17
Snow Leopard security update 2010 001, available also for client and server Leopard. As seems typical for Apple have no idea which or what issues it corrects.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Jan 20, 2010, 08:32:03
Quote from: Steve on Jan 19, 2010, 21:47:17
Snow Leopard security update 2010 001, available also for client and server Leopard. As seems typical for Apple have no idea which or what issues it corrects.
Heres the list of what it corrects Steve

Included in the update are a number of patches, including a buffer overflow for the CoreAudio system that could let a maliciously crafted MP4 audio file execute arbitrary code, a hole in the CUPS printing system where a remote attacker could cause the system to terminate, flaws in the ImageIO and Image RAW software that could let maliciously crafted image files execute arbitrary code, and a patch for the OpenSSL network encryption system that could allow a third-party to capture encrypted data.

Security Update 2010-001 also contains the most recent version of Adobe's Flash Player plug-in, 10.0.42, which fixes numerous vulnerabilities, among them one that could lead to arbitrary code execution as a result of viewing a maliciously crafted Website.

I would imagine 10.6.3 is a fair ways off yet judging by the release of this update.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Jan 20, 2010, 08:43:58
Thanks Gary ,btw where was the info you obviously looked harder than me. I gave up looking through support when they stated on the lines that its not Apple's policy to discuss security issues with the OS
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Jan 20, 2010, 08:56:47
Quote from: Steve on Jan 20, 2010, 08:43:58
Thanks Gary ,btw where was the info you obviously looked harder than me. I gave up looking through support when they stated on the lines that its not Apple's policy to discuss security issues with the OS
As usual not on the Apple web site Steve, http://www.macworld.com/article/145788/2010/01/security_2010_001.html
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Jan 20, 2010, 13:00:19
Thanks Gary :thumb:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Tacitus on Jan 20, 2010, 13:07:27
Quote from: Gary on Jan 20, 2010, 08:56:47
As usual not on the Apple web site Steve, http://www.macworld.com/article/145788/2010/01/security_2010_001.html

Its here. (http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1222)  Scroll down the page and select the appropriate one for the details. 

Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Feb 01, 2010, 22:08:43
Thanks Tac

New iTunes out v9.03 info here (http://support.apple.com/kb/DL927)
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Mar 10, 2010, 07:47:58
Office for Mac critical update version 12.2.4 has been released
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Mar 10, 2010, 09:59:05
Thanks Gary :thumb:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Mar 12, 2010, 01:21:26
Safari 4.0.5 has been released
The update addresses a number of issues related to the browser, WebKit, ColorSync, ImageIO and more. Apple noted the following changes for the browser in Safari 4.0.5:

Performance improvements for Top Sites
Stability improvements for 3rd-party plug-ins
Stability improvements for websites with online forms and Scalable Vector Graphics
Fixes an issue that prevented Safari from changing settings on some Linksys routers

The browser update offers improved HTML5 video playback, faster JavaScript performance, better performance loading YouTube, and an overall reduced memory footprint. Additionally, the release was also said to include a much improved plugin manager aimed at reducing the number of crashes caused by plugins, including Adobe Flash.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Mar 12, 2010, 18:43:27
Thanks Gary. :thumb: iPad out to day in the US.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Mar 26, 2010, 09:53:17
iMovie update 8.0.6
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Mar 26, 2010, 10:08:13
Yep got that :thumb:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Mar 30, 2010, 22:51:55
Updates for iPhoto,iTunes and Quicktime -something to do with the upcoming release of the iPad I suspect.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Rik on Mar 31, 2010, 08:31:55
iGot it. ;D
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Mar 31, 2010, 23:42:09
Airport basestaion update 2010-001

Apple has posted released AirPort Base Station Update 2010-001, which brings the Airport Utility to version 5.5.1. The update—which requires Mac OS X 10.5.7 or later—addresses two bugs and includes a security fix.

The security patch addresses an issue that would have allowed an unauthorized user to connect to an otherwise restricted network. Make sure to repair disc permissions after this update it needs it.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Apr 01, 2010, 09:03:07
Quote from: Gary on Mar 31, 2010, 23:42:09Make sure to repair disc permissions after this update it needs it.

It does rather! :eek4:

Long while since I've seen a list of repairs that long.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: RogerP on Apr 15, 2010, 10:15:23
HI

Security update 2010-003 out 6.3 mb
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Rik on Apr 15, 2010, 10:51:29
Thanks, Roger.  :thumb:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Apr 15, 2010, 13:30:39
Got that, just after last night  ;) cheers  :thumb:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Apr 28, 2010, 01:33:16
iTunes 9.1.1 released, provides a number of important bug fixes
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Rik on Apr 28, 2010, 10:39:48
I thought I was seeing double for a minute. ;)
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Apr 28, 2010, 10:47:14
Quote from: Rik on Apr 28, 2010, 10:39:48
I thought I was seeing double for a minute. ;)
A few different bug fixes on the Mac version, Rik.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Rik on Apr 28, 2010, 10:51:29
 ;D

Of course.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Apr 28, 2010, 11:01:57
Quote from: Rik on Apr 28, 2010, 10:51:29
;D

Of course.
# Addresses several stability issues with VoiceOver
# Addresses a usability issue with VoiceOver and Genius Mixes
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on May 18, 2010, 23:23:40
Java runtime update 2, Java SE 6 to 1.6.0_20 has been released.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Rik on May 19, 2010, 09:38:43
Thanks, Gary.  :thumb:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Tina on May 19, 2010, 13:42:41
I think my comp did that update this morning - well it was something about Java
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Jun 08, 2010, 07:45:33
Safari 5 Released Whats new below

# Engine upgrade
# Full screen for <video>
# HTML5 <header>
# Closed captions for <video>
# HTML5 <hgroup>
# Geolocation
# HTML5 <nav>
# HTML5 AJAX history
# HTML5 <section>
# EventSource
# HTML5 sandboxed <iframe>
# WebSocket
# HTML5 draggable attribute
# HTML5 forms validation
# HTML5 <ruby>
# HTML5 <article>
# HTML5 <aside>
# HTML5 <footer>
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Jun 08, 2010, 07:50:15
Thanks Gary :thumb:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Jun 08, 2010, 07:52:24
Quote from: Steve on Jun 08, 2010, 07:50:15
Thanks Gary :thumb:
Seems very sooth Steve  :thumb:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Jun 08, 2010, 07:53:43
My date and time background on igoogle's gone black :eek4:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Jun 08, 2010, 07:55:41
Quote from: Steve on Jun 08, 2010, 07:53:43
My date and time background on igoogle's gone black :eek4:
what gadget is that so I can test?
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Jun 08, 2010, 07:56:55
Quote from: Steve on Jun 08, 2010, 07:53:43
My date and time background on igoogle's gone black :eek4:
Just added it, mine is as well, which is odd. Checking in FF
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Jun 08, 2010, 07:59:00
All ok in FF Steve, must be a glitch with version 5 like any new browser there is bound to be oddities
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Jun 08, 2010, 08:05:45
And its still got the smf forum bug i.e when you paste an image url i.e [img][/img] becomes [img]http:url of image/img]  the square bracket at the end of the url gets dropped. You can of course add it manually or prior to pasting create a space i.e [img] [/img] then move the cursor to the left . This only happens with Safari on a mac os x
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Jun 08, 2010, 08:07:53
File a bug report Steve, must admit as my main Browser is FF still I don't see this to much. I have filed one over iGoogle clock, I'm sure with 5.whatever they will mend some stuff they broke, it was a major update.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Jun 08, 2010, 08:12:12
I filed over at SMF some time ago as I assumed it was their bug and not Safari
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Jun 08, 2010, 08:35:20
Quote from: Steve on Jun 08, 2010, 08:12:12
I filed over at SMF some time ago as I assumed it was their bug and not Safari
Its always hard to work out who's errors it is with updates
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Jun 08, 2010, 22:50:19
Microsoft Office 2008 for Mac 12.2.5 released, over 500mb  :eek4:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Jun 08, 2010, 23:01:43
There's a 333mb dmg on Mactopia for 12.2.5. I need to leave that til morning :eek4:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Jun 08, 2010, 23:22:46
Quote from: Steve on Jun 08, 2010, 23:01:43
There's a 333mb dmg on Mactopia for 12.2.5. I need to leave that til morning :eek4:
Took ages to download
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: lozcart on Jun 15, 2010, 21:32:29
You will find System 10.6.4 in software update.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Jun 15, 2010, 21:55:16
Thank you :thumb:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Jun 15, 2010, 22:29:41
Updated couple of permissions to repair thats it so far
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: lozcart on Jun 16, 2010, 22:25:37
iTunes 9.2 out ready for iOS4 and iPhone 4.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Jun 16, 2010, 22:34:21
Quote from: lozcart on Jun 16, 2010, 22:25:37
iTunes 9.2 out ready for iOS4 and iPhone 4.
:thumb:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Jun 16, 2010, 23:11:05
Safari 5, OS X 10.6.4 and iTunes 9.2 all in one day...  :eek4:

Had a bit of fun with 10.6.4, everything else smooth as usual. The iTunes update rebuilds the library when you run it, can take a while.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Jun 17, 2010, 07:33:33
Quote from: Bill on Jun 16, 2010, 23:11:05
Safari 5, OS X 10.6.4 and iTunes 9.2 all in one day...  :eek4:

Had a bit of fun with 10.6.4, everything else smooth as usual. The iTunes update rebuilds the library when you run it, can take a while.
Thankfully mine was staggered by 24 hours  ;D but it has been busy.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Jul 20, 2010, 00:47:01
iTuned 9.2.1 bug fixes and thingamajigs  ::)
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Jul 28, 2010, 16:54:22
Safari 5.0.1 available.

Bug fixes and 3rd-party extensions.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Rik on Jul 28, 2010, 16:56:28
Thanks, Bill.  :thumb:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Aug 18, 2010, 21:36:55
12.2.6 Mac Office 2008 was released recently it's only 333MB
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Aug 18, 2010, 21:38:55
I'll stick with NeoOffice, thanks all the same :P
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Aug 18, 2010, 21:43:13
I note on the Neoffice site that the iPad/Iphone version will open previous documents, does that include documents you've been working on the Mac
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Aug 18, 2010, 21:48:40
No idea I'm afraid, I don't have either of them.

I wouldn't be surprised though, the Mac version seems to open just about everything else! My brother in law uses me as a document conversion service when someone sends him something he can't open in MS Office  ::)
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Aug 18, 2010, 21:54:56
I think possibly google docs may come into it somewhere if you wish to use docs on the mac and the iphone/ipad.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Aug 18, 2010, 22:00:09
Another area of massive ignorance for me- Google and Microsoft are two companies I make a point of avoiding wherever possible ;D
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Aug 26, 2010, 22:09:02
iWork 9.0.4 and recent Macbook Pro EFI update.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Rik on Aug 27, 2010, 10:30:35
 :thumb:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Aug 27, 2010, 10:42:00
Glad I didn't need either of them, EFI updates always make me nervous.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Aug 27, 2010, 11:12:36
For those who don't know what EFI is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extensible_Firmware_Interface
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Rik on Aug 27, 2010, 11:19:17
Effy, wasn't she played by June Whitfield in 'Life with the Glumms'? :evil:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Ray on Aug 27, 2010, 13:16:06
 :grn: ;D

Going back a few years for that one, Rik,  ;)
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Rik on Aug 27, 2010, 16:32:50
Just a few - about 55 isn't it? ;)
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: RogerP on Sep 08, 2010, 09:13:10
Hi All

Safari 5.02 and iWeb 3.02 now available for download mainly performance improvements

RogerP
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Rik on Sep 08, 2010, 09:14:20
Thanks, Roger.  :thumb:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Sep 21, 2010, 07:15:30
Security Update 2010-006 (Snow Leopard) released.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Sep 21, 2010, 07:24:59
Good grief, a whole megabyte of it :eek4:

Thanks.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Sep 21, 2010, 08:28:19
Quote from: Bill on Sep 21, 2010, 07:24:59
Good grief, a whole megabyte of it :eek4:

Thanks.
;D we have 10.6.5 coming down the pipe sometime, that will be a bit bigger  ;)
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Sep 22, 2010, 19:47:35
Photoshop elements 9 and the new to the Mac the premier version has been released http://www.adobe.com/uk/products/photoshopel/?sdid=HTIIQ&
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Simon on Sep 22, 2010, 21:15:42
I'm surprised Apple allow it!  ;D
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Sep 22, 2010, 21:19:19
Quote from: Simon on Sep 22, 2010, 21:15:42
I'm surprised Apple allow it!  ;D

Apple never stopped any program on a Mac though Simon, as far as I am aware. They even let you use a few Lemons Microsoft programs too ;)  ;D
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Rik on Sep 23, 2010, 09:01:50
Apple owed their success to Adobe in the early days.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Sep 23, 2010, 09:40:55
Quote from: Rik on Sep 23, 2010, 09:01:50
Apple owed their success to Adobe in the early days.
Adobe did so well, and these days things like the PDF reader and Flash have become nightmares for security, yet its hard to beat photoshop full stop. Odd how you can have such great and such awful software all in one company
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Rik on Sep 23, 2010, 09:48:43
Adobe were the industry standard for DTP and photography, not to mention fonts. Where they went wrong was in branching out and buying up. The original purpose of PDF files was to make it easier to move data between designer and printer. The more general usage is what caught them out.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Sep 23, 2010, 09:55:49
Quote from: Rik on Sep 23, 2010, 09:48:43
Adobe were the industry standard for DTP and photography, not to mention fonts. Where they went wrong was in branching out and buying up. The original purpose of PDF files was to make it easier to move data between designer and printer. The more general usage is what caught them out.
Makes sense They bought out Macromedia didn't they, and then started bundling download managers and Adobe Air along with that very bloated reader, I am glad I don't use it, but it used to be a work well. Adobe seem incapable of writing reasonably secure software at this time for PDF;s and rich content on the web. I know a few  linux users that wont even use flash.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Rik on Sep 23, 2010, 10:02:28
They bought out quite a few companies, including Macromedia, to broaden their base, but they lost sight of their better qualities along the way.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Sep 23, 2010, 10:05:03
Quote from: Rik on Sep 23, 2010, 10:02:28
They bought out quite a few companies, including Macromedia, to broaden their base, but they lost sight of their better qualities along the way.
Seems a common problem across many industries these days  :(
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Rik on Sep 23, 2010, 10:08:07
It does. Small is beautiful. :)
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Sep 23, 2010, 10:12:58
Quote from: Rik on Sep 23, 2010, 10:08:07
It does. Small is beautiful. :)
I agree I could not be more happy with IDNets phone package, the small provider of our cooker, and Washing machine, all of which are non chain stores and just local shops, the one of a kind ones that have to care or they go out of business fast, its increasingly hard to deal with big organisations with bad internal structures via to many managers and bad internal communication, its so easy to get wrapped up in nightmares with a company that no matter how "in the right you are" just don't care anymore.  :sigh:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Rik on Sep 23, 2010, 10:22:30
Though there are a few small companies which can be just as bad.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Sep 23, 2010, 10:28:17
Quote from: Rik on Sep 23, 2010, 10:22:30
Though there are a few small companies which can be just as bad.
True, its a lottery really, word of mouth seems a good way these days of getting what you need
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Rik on Sep 23, 2010, 10:32:25
Donald Russell. ;D
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Sep 23, 2010, 10:37:36
Quote from: Rik on Sep 23, 2010, 10:32:25
Donald Russell. ;D
;D
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Lance on Sep 23, 2010, 23:30:53
Quote from: Rik on Sep 23, 2010, 10:32:25
Donald Russell. ;D

Hard to understand when you have a mouth full!
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Rik on Sep 24, 2010, 10:19:56
It never lasts long, Lance. ;D
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Tacitus on Sep 25, 2010, 15:43:31
Quote from: Gary on Sep 23, 2010, 10:12:58
I agree I could not be more happy with IDNets phone package, the small provider of our cooker, and Washing machine, all of which are non chain stores and just local shops, the one of a kind ones that have to care or they go out of business fast....

Problem with the large companies is they are focussed on 'Shareholder Value' - aka Profit.  Trim a bit here, cut a corner there, give the customer a worse deal so they can make ever greater profits.  Once profit becomes the sole focus it's all downhill. 

The smaller companies see profit as the reward for doing a good job, not an end in itself.  As a result they focus on the quality of service.  Obviously they need to make a profit or they wouldn't be in business for long, it's just that it isn't the sole focus of all their endeavours.

I'm all for dealing with the small business wherever I can.

Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Rik on Sep 25, 2010, 15:53:38
Hear hear.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Sep 25, 2010, 18:32:32
iTunes 10.0.1 available:

QuoteTunes 10.0.1 makes it easier to share your favorite music with your friends on Ping. You can now Like or Post about music right from your iTunes library. You can also easily see the recent activity of a selected artist in your library, or of all artists and friends you follow on Ping using the new Ping Sidebar.

This release also provides a number of important bug fixes, including:

• Addresses an issue where the picture quality of a video changes depending on whether the on-screen controls are visible.
• Resolves an issue where iTunes may unexpectedly quit while interacting with album artwork viewed in a separate window.
• Fixes a problem that affects the performance of some third-party visualizers.
• Addresses an issue where the iTunes library and playlists appear empty.
• Resolves an issue that created an incompatibility with some third-party shared libraries.

Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Oct 12, 2010, 19:47:02
Microsoft Office for Mac update 12.2.7 Critical security update
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Oct 12, 2010, 19:48:05
 :thumb:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: lozcart on Oct 21, 2010, 15:32:38
Snow Leopard and Leopard Java updates via Software Update:

Java for Mac OS 10.6 Update 3 (74.3mb)

Java for Mac OS 10.5 Update 8 (119.07mb)

Improved compatibility, security and reliability.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Oct 21, 2010, 17:08:56
 :thumb: and an Aperture 3.1 update for iLife11
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Nov 10, 2010, 11:04:33
Office 2011 for Mac patched critical vulnerability, 2004 and 2008 unpatched as of yet, Microsoft quality testing the patch  :eyebrow: so be careful is the order of the day. ( I think MS just want everyone to update)  ::) So far I found 2011 buggy on a friends Mac so sticking to 2008 for now, I will wait for a few more updates I think.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Nov 10, 2010, 11:26:29
I get the feeling Office 2008 will be my last MS product on the Mac OS X platform, I'm fairly happy now that I can break free.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Nov 10, 2010, 11:36:16
Quote from: Steve on Nov 10, 2010, 11:26:29
I get the feeling Office 2008 will be my last MS product on the Mac OS X platform, I'm fairly happy now that I can break free.
I think I'll be using 2008 for a while, the update to 2011 has been on my mind for next year but having seen some of the issues first hand I think now more and more I wont update tbh, Steve. Maybe iWork for my needs will be enough. 2011 throws files into trash on every reboot after using it, the same for Messenger for Mac 8 with av, that even gets the cache cleaned up by OS X after a reboot its all been a let down for many its been a horrid update in my mind, so I am staying as is for now with 2008 which is still far from perfect, it  is good till 2013 anyway in product life cycle. I just wish they would push out the patches for the critical vulnerabilitys, it seems the new Office suite in town got prime time attention over 2008 and 2004  :( saying that a critical hole in IE was missed this update as well.

Seems to have been a month or two of zero day issues  :sigh:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Nov 10, 2010, 12:08:34
I used to get MS software for postage rates under their Home User Program ,since that avenue has closed I find it difficult to justify the expense. iWork is certainly good enough for my needs , a family pack doesn't cost a fortune either. It's just whether we at home can cope with the odd incompatibility as both of us use Office Windows at work.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Nov 10, 2010, 12:44:41
Quote from: Steve on Nov 10, 2010, 12:08:34
I used to get MS software for postage rates under their Home User Program ,since that avenue has closed I find it difficult to justify the expense. iWork is certainly good enough for my needs , a family pack doesn't cost a fortune either. It's just whether we at home can cope with the odd incompatibility as both of us use Office Windows at work.
Thats the only issue really, tbh I think at some point I'll do a clean install of the Mac and not add any of the MS packages back and stick to iWorks, uninstalling 2008 would be a waste right now as I want to get my moneys worth out of it so to speak
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Nov 10, 2010, 23:05:29
Snow Leopard 10.6.5 is reportedly out although no sign of the combo release tonight. Software update is 517MB. Also out is Xcode 3.2.4 at 600Mb.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Nov 10, 2010, 23:11:08
Quote from: Steve on Nov 10, 2010, 23:05:29Software update is 517MB.

680MB here... but size doesn't matter :P
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Nov 11, 2010, 00:51:53
Quote from: Bill on Nov 10, 2010, 23:11:08
680MB here... but size doesn't matter :P
680MB for me as well  :)
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: RogerP on Nov 11, 2010, 06:37:56
Hi

680.1 for me installed and running OK


Rogerp
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Nov 11, 2010, 06:56:19
I 'll try later, just downloading the combo now on cheap rates. :)
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Nov 11, 2010, 09:08:43
Quote from: Steve on Nov 11, 2010, 06:56:19
I 'll try later, just downloading the combo now on cheap rates. :)
I downloaded mine just after midnight, unplugged all peripheral USB devices etc and installed, very smooth indeed so far  :thumb:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Nov 11, 2010, 09:29:31
The combo was near enough a Gb but it will still work out "cheaper" for me.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Nov 11, 2010, 09:31:06
Quote from: Steve on Nov 11, 2010, 09:29:31
The combo was near enough a Gb but it will still work out "cheaper" for me.
:thumb: It was a whopping big update.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Nov 11, 2010, 11:19:47
Quote from: Gary on Nov 11, 2010, 09:08:43unplugged all peripheral USB devices etc

Any particular reason for that?

I've never bothered.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Nov 11, 2010, 11:23:59
Quote from: Bill on Nov 11, 2010, 11:19:47
Any particular reason for that?

I've never bothered.
I do it as sometimes drivers and USB devices are upgraded so then nothing is attached that may affect the update, either during or on reboot, Im sure its just me being overly paranoid, but I can see no harm. I'm sure its not needed, but I have seen a few people and forums recommend it.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Nov 11, 2010, 11:29:05
Fair enough, I wondered if I'd missed something.

Too much of a rat's nest round the back here :eek4:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Rik on Nov 11, 2010, 11:34:10
Garden shears, Bill? ;)
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Nov 11, 2010, 11:44:36
Mines tidy and easy to get to, then again I spent years running cables at gigs so its a habit to be tidy
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Rik on Nov 11, 2010, 11:57:39
Mine starts tidy. Then, at night, while I sleep, the cables indulge in self-weaving. ;D
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Nov 11, 2010, 12:26:44
Just remembered I hadn't done the MacBook... only 517MB for that.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Nov 11, 2010, 12:52:40
Quote from: Rik on Nov 11, 2010, 11:57:39
Mine starts tidy. Then, at night, while I sleep, the cables indulge in self-weaving. ;D
;D
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Nov 11, 2010, 16:36:04
Unfortunately 10.6.5 it seems to have disabled the Widemail and the Letterbox mail add ons :mad:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: RogerP on Nov 11, 2010, 16:50:15
Hi

according to the website an update for 10.6.5 should be available shortly for Widemail, Letterbox website down at present



Rogerp
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Nov 11, 2010, 16:58:49
Thank's Roger I do miss either of those when they are not available, sadly I do recall a similar message for Widemail when SL came out and it took him months then so  :fingers:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: RogerP on Nov 12, 2010, 07:08:50
Hi

Download for Widemail 2.0 pre-release 3 now available on website and is compatible with 10.6.5

Rogerp
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Nov 12, 2010, 07:09:48
 :thumb:


Thanks Roger ,and it works
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Nov 12, 2010, 08:37:36
10.6.5 summary

http://www.macrumors.com/2010/11/11/mac-os-x-10-6-5-notes-exfat-support-airprint-flash-player-vulnerability-fixes/

"Since yesterday's release of Mac OS X 10.6.5, users have been testing out the updated version of Snow Leopard to find out what has changed, and we've collected a few notes on what has been found.

- exFAT Support: Apple began including support for the exFAT file system in builds of Mac OS X 10.6.4 shipping on some of the company's latest iMacs and Mac minis with SDXC card slots, but Mac OS X 10.6.5 extends compatibility to all Macs.

- AirPrint: As had been rumored, Apple at the last minute removed support for printing via AirPrint from iOS 4.2 devices to printers shared on Macs running Mac OS X 10.6.5. The feature had been touted by Apple in its initial AirPrint press release and was present in early developer builds of Mac OS X 10.6.5, but was removed for unspecified reasons. Note that the basic AirPrint functionality, including direct printing to compatible HP printers, is included in Mac OS X 10.6.5.

We've heard claims of technical or legal/patent issues being behind the removal of support for shared printers, but have not received confirmation of any single reason for the change. Notably, those developers who installed earlier developer builds of Mac OS X 10.6.5 have retained access to the shared printing feature even with the public release, and one developer has outlined a process by which users can add the capability.

- Flash Player Vulnerabilities Fixed: Apple's attempts to distance itself from Adobe's Flash technology are well-known, and the list of security issues addressed in Mac OS X 10.6.5 is only adding fuel to that fire. Of a massive 134 security issues addressed in the update, 41% of them are directly attributable to Flash, the largest single source of security holes patched in the update. The second largest source of security flaws patched in Mac OS X 10.6.5 is X11, the optional install that allows Macs to run certain windowed Unix applications, with 12% of the total fixes."
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: RogerP on Nov 12, 2010, 18:49:49
Hi Steve

As regards flash player I have uninstalled Adobe PDF reader along with flash player, only to find my laptop battery now lasts longer as the processor is working less, and my CPU temp has dropped by 10 degrees.

Details provided by iStat Pro which i had installed before and after Adobe removal, laptop now runs around 45 deg C for CPU and heat sink, even when working on photo's it only gets unto about 60 deg C, instead of 85/90.

Laptop was to hot to have on your lap at times and had to be propped up at times to keep cool.

So for me Steve Job's points have been substantiated, software full of holes and vulnerabilities and hogging processor power.

Regards


Rogerp
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Nov 12, 2010, 19:00:56
Thanks Roger,I dont use Adobe reader but the absence of flash may be a nuisance on my laptop , certainly something to consider.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Nov 12, 2010, 19:07:10
I find Preview handles PDFs perfectly well... but I prefer to keep Flash.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Nov 12, 2010, 20:20:29
iTunes 10.1

http://www.apple.com/uk/itunes/download/
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: RogerP on Nov 18, 2010, 20:54:14
Hi

Safari 5.0.3 out installed all seems ok , mainly performance issues


Rogerp
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Nov 18, 2010, 22:38:39
 :thumb: Roger
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Dec 10, 2010, 18:36:46
Office for mac 2008 12.2.8 released yesterday
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Dec 15, 2010, 21:36:30
iTunes 10.1.1 bug released, bug fixes.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Dec 15, 2010, 21:42:09
 :thumb:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Dec 15, 2010, 21:54:05
 :thumb:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Dec 16, 2010, 23:18:02
Airport utility 5.5.2 update (lots of permissions to repair after)
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Dec 16, 2010, 23:29:02
 :thumb:

Bug fixes, none of which affected me, but didn't require a restart so installed anyway... no probs.

Quote from: Gary on Dec 16, 2010, 23:18:02(lots of permissions to repair after)

So what else is new after a software update? ;D
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Dec 16, 2010, 23:54:39
Quote from: Bill on Dec 16, 2010, 23:29:02
:thumb:

Bug fixes, none of which affected me, but didn't require a restart so installed anyway... no probs.

So what else is new after a software update? ;D
There are always way more with an airport utility update it seems.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Rik on Dec 17, 2010, 09:13:12
Well, that involves BAA. ;)
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Dec 17, 2010, 10:35:37
Quote from: Rik on Dec 17, 2010, 09:13:12
Well, that involves BAA. ;)
:grn:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Rik on Dec 17, 2010, 10:50:56
:ithank:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Dec 18, 2010, 17:14:17
Firmware updates available for Airport Extreme and Airport Express.

(Via Airport Utility)
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Dec 18, 2010, 17:46:16
Thanks Bill. :thumb:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Dec 22, 2010, 19:11:03
iPhoto 9.1.1

Adds a preference allowing photos to be emailed using an external email application
Adds "Classic" and "Journal" themes to email.
Photos attached to an email can now be sized to Small, Medium or Large
Improves reliability when upgrading a library from an earlier version of iPhoto
iPhoto now correctly preserves the sort order of Events after upgrading a library
Event titles displayed in headers can now be edited in Photos view
Addresses a problem that could cause duplicate photos to be added to a MobileMe album
Scrolling overlay now correctly displays ratings when photos are sorted by rating
Photos are now sorted correctly when a rating is changed and photos are sorted by rating
Fixes a problem that could cause text formatting controls to become inaccessible when editing a calendar
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Jan 19, 2011, 08:41:52
iDVD 7.1.1 This update improves overall stability and ensures compatibility when sending slideshows from iPhoto '11 to iDVD.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Jan 19, 2011, 08:44:03
 :thumb: Gary.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Mar 02, 2011, 22:43:32
iTunes update available for sync'ing iPad, iPhone etc... 35MB, no re-start required.

Can't give proper info, I screwed up the copy/paste :blush:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Mar 03, 2011, 06:59:29
Thanks Bill,  - the rest of the copy/paste

Improved Home Sharing. Browse and play from your iTunes libraries with Home Sharing on any iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch with iOS 4.3.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Mar 09, 2011, 08:48:21
iTunes 10.2.1 released, also Java for Mac OS X 10.6 Update 4 updating Java SE 6 to 1.6.0_24
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Mar 09, 2011, 09:12:12
Cheers Gary that release of iTunes didn't last long
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Ray on Mar 09, 2011, 10:36:23
Has anyone actually managed to install this update yet? I keep getting an error message at the end of the install about it needs Quicktime even though Quicktime is already installed. ??? :doh:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Mar 09, 2011, 10:43:36
Installed with no problem here.

Quicktime installed here too, but only the basic one not the full paid-for version.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: lozcart on Mar 09, 2011, 18:22:12
iOS 4.3 is ready for downloading for iPads, iPhones and iPod touches.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Mar 09, 2011, 18:22:59
Thanks I thought it was due on the 11th
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: lozcart on Mar 09, 2011, 18:26:41
It was, maybe releasing it early causes less strain on the Apple servers.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Mar 09, 2011, 18:28:19
It's on the way , I wonder if the wireless hot spot feature will be supported by o2 on the iPhone without the the tethering data bundle option.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: lozcart on Mar 09, 2011, 18:31:57
I wondered just that also Steve, I very much doubt it.

Just downloading the iPad version, want to see if it speeds up Safari.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Mar 09, 2011, 18:38:35
It not the quickest download I guess a few people have cottoned on.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: lozcart on Mar 09, 2011, 18:42:59
I've done the iPad updated ok but crashed iTunes when it tried to resync. Perhaps that's why they released the iTunes 10.2.1 update which I forgot to install first.  :blush:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Mar 09, 2011, 18:50:59
I think I'll leave it until tomorrow when the US has gone to bed.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Rik on Mar 09, 2011, 18:53:07
 :sleepy:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: lozcart on Mar 09, 2011, 20:21:27
That crash of iTunes messed up my iPad, I've had to factory reset and restore from back up (thank god for time machine).  After the update when I tried to sync it it would get to the photos and keep throwing up an error and cancelling the sync.

Thankfully it all seems back to normal now.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: lozcart on Mar 09, 2011, 20:49:20
Safari 5.0.4 is out.

"This update contains improvements to stability, compatibility, accessibility and security, including the following:

- Improved stability for webpages with multiple instances of plug-in content
- Improved compatibility with webpages with image reflections and transition effects
- A fix for an issue that could cause some webpages to print with incorrect layouts
- A fix for an issue that could cause content to display incorrectly on webpages with plug-ins
- A fix for an issue that could cause a Screen Saver to appear while video is playing in Safari
- Improved compatibility with VoiceOver on webpages with text input areas and lists with selectable items
- Improved stability when using VoiceOver"
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Mar 09, 2011, 20:53:31
Expensive day for the bandwidth.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: lozcart on Mar 09, 2011, 22:02:03
Quote from: Steve on Mar 09, 2011, 20:53:31
Expensive day for the bandwidth.

It is, I think I'll get up early and do my iPhone on off peak rate. Looking at some Mac forums it's looks like O2 have disabled the wireless hot spot feature, which is a pity.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Mar 09, 2011, 22:09:25
I managed the iphone , I can confirm O2 have disabled the wifi feature unless the tethering bolt on is used £7.50 for 500kb per month.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Lance on Mar 09, 2011, 22:53:57
I expect vodafone will follow suit. I'll find out when I update my iPhone 4.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Mar 09, 2011, 22:57:15
Unless O2 have been caught unawares with the early release of 4.3 as now the hot spot link to O2 is not now available.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Simon on Mar 10, 2011, 00:06:21
One disadvantage of jailbreaking is that I can't upgrade mine, or I'll lose the jailbreak, and it's a lot more tricky to jailbreak anything above 4.1.  I'm happy to leave it as it is, but out of curiosity, what am I missing?
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Mar 10, 2011, 00:17:07
Quote from: lozcart on Mar 09, 2011, 20:49:20
Safari 5.0.4 is out.

Needs a re-start, just thought I'd mention it :P
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Mar 10, 2011, 07:12:03
Quote from: Simon on Mar 10, 2011, 00:06:21
One disadvantage of jailbreaking is that I can't upgrade mine, or I'll lose the jailbreak, and it's a lot more tricky to jailbreak anything above 4.1.  I'm happy to leave it as it is, but out of curiosity, what am I missing?

Here's the changes in 4.3 http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1358
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Simon on Mar 10, 2011, 07:25:37
Thanks!
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Mar 10, 2011, 07:41:07
Not a lot for the 3GS,maybe the safari update as it said to be a bit quicker with the new engine. I think what I've noticed since I'm now back on under apple's control is that the phone for me is much more stable (I kept losing wifi - which required a reboot to restore) however I've lost the flexibility and the wifi hotspot features I had with the jailbreak.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Mar 10, 2011, 07:47:51
Quote from: Simon on Mar 10, 2011, 00:06:21
One disadvantage of jailbreaking is that I can't upgrade mine, or I'll lose the jailbreak, and it's a lot more tricky to jailbreak anything above 4.1.  I'm happy to leave it as it is, but out of curiosity, what am I missing?
Also a bunch of security updates which seem mainly to do with Webkit, its running ok on my iphone 4. MMS handling on O2 is now much better as well, before hand it would have issues sending, now it's fine, a known O2 bug on the 4 at least.

Edit: Just checked, I have set up personal Hotspot on my iPhone 4, but its an unlocked model bought from apple, so maybe that's why...
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Simon on Mar 10, 2011, 09:40:08
My 3GS, with the jailbroken 4.1 is rock solid, and runs with no issues at all. If it ain't broke... 
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Mar 10, 2011, 10:12:49
I've always had intermittent wifi since I jailbroke it and it's jailbreak related as it's rock solid otherwise. I did try 4.2.1 jailbreak but that was even worse for wifi performance.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Simon on Mar 10, 2011, 10:49:34
When I use wifi, it's when at home.  I've never used it while out. 
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Mar 10, 2011, 14:05:51
I use the wifi at home mainly as well and it became a pain to have to reboot the phone to get the bloody thing to work often even once a day.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Simon on Mar 10, 2011, 14:07:34
Can't say I've had that problem, Steve. 
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Mar 10, 2011, 14:14:49
I've not delved to far into it so not sure whether it's related to firmware baseband or hardware version on a jailbroken phone.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Simon on Mar 10, 2011, 14:28:37
I'm on 4.1, Modem Firmware 05.14.02.  Could it be an app, I wonder?
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Mar 10, 2011, 16:00:41
I can't recall the Modem Firmware but it may well be the MiFi app that causes the issue, that particular app is the one that creates the wifi hotspot the main reason for my jailbreak.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Simon on Mar 10, 2011, 16:24:51
Ah...  I don't use that.  Modem Firmware is in Settings > General > About. 
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Mar 10, 2011, 16:31:00
I think in the past I have used 05.14.02 obviously with 4.3 I've moved on to 05.16.01
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Niall on Mar 10, 2011, 17:40:33
Has anyone else noticed a huge power consumption increase with the iphone 3GS since the update? My phone was fully charged this morning, and I've just had to put it on charge as it was on 15%  :o

As I was in work, I barely used it all day, which is normal. Normally I'd have around 56% battery life left by the time I return home. This is over double the usual use, with nothing changing at my end other than yesterdays update!
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Niall on Mar 11, 2011, 13:22:46
Today I left for physio at 9am with 100% battery life. I got to work at 10am and had 56% and now I have 39%

I have not used the phone during this period. What the hell has changed?
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Mar 11, 2011, 13:43:28
You are not alone:

http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=13197037

Some suggestions in there, may or may not help.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Niall on Mar 11, 2011, 13:44:40
Now on 29% and I have wifi off and Bluetooth off. In fact the only thing I have enabled is 3G! All I've done since last posting is browse the net.

AWFUL update!
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Lance on Mar 11, 2011, 14:06:57
I installed the update last night and so far so good. Certainly not noticed any battery life decreases ilke that.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Simon on Mar 11, 2011, 14:08:47
Are you on a 3GS, Lance?
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Niall on Mar 11, 2011, 15:16:59
Quite odd that the link above says it's having an app open when updating that causes files to corrupt. I always have everything turned off when updating, just to be safe. Others are posting the same too, along with others that haven't had any joy with the troubleshooting.

I'll have a go when I get home. Currently on 18%!
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Mar 11, 2011, 17:04:34
Not noticed any issues with IOS 4.3 on my 3GS battery life hasn't changed as far as I can tell.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Lance on Mar 11, 2011, 23:41:14
I've got an iPhone 4. Since lunchtime when it was fully charged it's only dropped to 79% with a few calls and texts but also it's been constantly searching for a signal where I've been as it's a bit of a blackspot.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Niall on Mar 12, 2011, 00:04:28
I've just done a reset and it's currently installing the backup, which according the Apple forums, is what solves this issue. I'll see if it needs the new update again (which I assume it will) and after installing that, I'll unplug it from the PC and see what it's like in the morning.

Looking through their forums, it seems that people have this issue with every update. It seems I've been lucky for the last 3 or 4 patches/upgrades/sidesteps.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Niall on Mar 12, 2011, 08:31:31
Well it seems it hasn't worked. I've just checked the phone and it's used 31% overnight and just used 1% more simply starting to use safari.

Intact it's just used 2% typing the above via wi-fi.

I'll check their forums again ad I think there's something on there about deleting settings. Although I can't see why that would work as the backup would restore the phone to how it was previously!

Grrr.  :mad:

Also the phone doesn't seem to pick up wi-fi as clearly now. I used to get a full signal in the house, even as far as 20ft from the house, but now I'm getting 2 bars 10ft from the router!
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Mar 12, 2011, 08:41:19
Which version have you got currently, a backup does not restore the OS only the apps etc, I'm guessing your still on 4.3 You can go back to 4.2.1 but not via the usual iTunes route you need to use Tiny Umbrella - google
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Niall on Mar 12, 2011, 08:51:58
I've just done a reset which oddly didn't work this time, so I've deleted settings, then all data and settings and am now running restore.

This is exactly what is suggested fixes it, but I'll have to wait a few hours now to find out.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Niall on Mar 12, 2011, 11:20:29
Right, phone now 100%, all settings deleted then readded by restoring again. Now to watch the battery life vanish. Or hopefully not. I'm running out of time now as I have a lot to do before I go out tonight!
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Mar 12, 2011, 11:38:12
 :fingers: I guess it possible for one system process or app to be corrupted during the upgrade and hog the iPhone's cpu and thus drain the battery.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Niall on Mar 12, 2011, 11:57:55
Hmm, it seems to okay now. Still at 100% after 45 mins. Before it would have been at 85-90% by now. Yay. Sort of.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Mar 12, 2011, 19:31:01
iPhone 4 here, no battery issues. Hope things are sorted out Niall. As to that link, every time there is an update to OS X or IOS I always wait and watch for the 'my battery is ruined, it bricked my phone, of my hard drive got destroyed' I know yours is a genuine issue, but its not universal as I see it, but the Apple fascists and fanbois do cry wolf so often on that forum...its quite funny really  :evil:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Niall on Mar 13, 2011, 01:10:00
Yeah, everything seems to be in order. In fact, the phone seems to have a much longer life than before previous updates. I'm wondering if the previous update was where the problem started.

Anyway, I'm immensely drunk, and quite frankly am amazed that taking minutes to type this is even working. I have just found a youtube vid to sing to.


RUN FOR THE HILLS! RUN FOR YOUR LIIIIIIIIIIVES!

I'm quite drunk ;D
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Simon on Mar 13, 2011, 13:25:37
 :laugh:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: zappaDPJ on Mar 14, 2011, 02:28:43
I have a question. I accidentally updated (I thought I was updating the iTunes) my iPhone OS a couple of weeks ago which appeared to wipe everything stored on the phone and then restored it again. Is this to be expected every time I update the OS? Everything appears to be intact but it didn't appear that the phone was synced before the OS was updated.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Mar 14, 2011, 06:32:38
 I always back up the phone before an update, I'm pretty sure my last update did not involve any wipe/restore.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Lance on Mar 14, 2011, 07:35:53
I've never had a wipe an restore on upgrade either. Normally it just installs and that's it.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Simon on Mar 14, 2011, 10:19:22
I was under the impression that iTunes backed everything up, loaded the new OS, then restored.  This is why jailbreaks are wiped when you upgrade the OS. 
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Mar 14, 2011, 11:08:18
Quote from: Simon on Mar 14, 2011, 10:19:22
I was under the impression that iTunes backed everything up, loaded the new OS, then restored.  This is why jailbreaks are wiped when you upgrade the OS. 
It does that when restoring, Simon. When I updated to 4.3 the only thing it reloaded was my photos, everything else was left intact but of course updating firmware and software will wipe your jailbreak.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: zappaDPJ on Mar 14, 2011, 12:44:05
It sounds like what happened shouldn't have happened then. I'd deliberately not upgraded the OS just in case I wanted to jailbreak the phone so I was a least three upgrades behind.

As I'm still one update behind and the damage is done, I'll go get it now and see what happens. Thanks for the replies :thumb:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: zappaDPJ on Mar 14, 2011, 13:26:53
It updated without wiping the data this time so why that happened last time I really don't know. Anyway everything seems to be in order including my reminder that I'm meeting a client for a late lunch at a posh French restaurant. TTFN, I might be gone a while as the client is paying ;D
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Simon on Mar 14, 2011, 13:50:10
Enjoy!  :)
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Lance on Mar 14, 2011, 14:53:05
I wonder if it was because the phone was a few versions out of date? Wouldn't have thought it matters though.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: zappaDPJ on Mar 14, 2011, 16:43:31
Quote from: Simon on Mar 14, 2011, 13:50:10
Enjoy!  :)

Thanks, I did  :eat:

What did make me laugh is my client appears to have the same taste in food as my other half and ordered a galvanised bucket of par-boiled crustaceans floating in bilge water :ack:

Quote from: Lance on Mar 14, 2011, 14:53:05
I wonder if it was because the phone was a few versions out of date? Wouldn't have thought it matters though.

That's all I could think of Lance. It did worry me a little at the time but all my data seems to be intact.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Rik on Mar 14, 2011, 17:05:08
Quote from: zappaDPJ on Mar 14, 2011, 16:43:31
Thanks, I did  :eat:

What did make me laugh is my client appears to have the same taste in food as my other half and ordered a galvanised bucket of par-boiled crustaceans floating in bilge water :ack:

What did you go for, Zap?
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: zappaDPJ on Mar 14, 2011, 17:17:28
I had marinated salmon with grapefruit, cucumber and fennel to start, navarin of lamb with braised red cabbage main course and plum tart with clotted cream to finish. It was all rather nice and ridiculously expensive at £235 for two (no alcohol) :eek4:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Glenn on Mar 14, 2011, 17:23:46
 :eek4: indeed
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Rik on Mar 14, 2011, 17:25:27
Nice but not cheap, let alone reasonable.  :o
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Glenn on Mar 14, 2011, 17:28:39
Who was the chef Michel Roux?
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Rik on Mar 14, 2011, 17:34:26
He's the guy who chopped down a couple of trees without obtaining permission. ;)
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Mar 21, 2011, 22:32:05
OS X 10.6.7 released
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Mar 22, 2011, 11:41:53
Cheers Gary.


Installed without fuss on iMac and MacBook, doesn't seem to have broken anything :P
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Mar 22, 2011, 19:13:33
Quote from: Bill on Mar 22, 2011, 11:41:53
Cheers Gary.


Installed without fuss on iMac and MacBook, doesn't seem to have broken anything :P
Same here, although if you open the app store you get a console spew now about bitmap context  :dunno:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Mar 22, 2011, 22:42:55
Quote from: Gary on Mar 22, 2011, 19:13:33
Same here, although if you open the app store you get a console spew now about bitmap context  :dunno:

Same here... but it still seems to work OK so sod it ;D

I try to avoid looking in the system log, practically everything seems to shove some sort of error message in there without anything actually mattering :dunno:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Mar 23, 2011, 07:29:50
Quote from: Bill on Mar 22, 2011, 22:42:55
Same here... but it still seems to work OK so sod it ;D

I try to avoid looking in the system log, practically everything seems to shove some sort of error message in there without anything actually mattering :dunno:
Have to agree what you don't see does not harm  ;D
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Niall on Mar 27, 2011, 00:02:08
4.3.1 is out for the iphone. I've been checking every day curious to see how long it will take them to fix the wireless problem on the ipad2. No idea what it fixed as it didn't tell me ::)

Ah well. Lets see if my phone battery is dead in the morning.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Mar 27, 2011, 09:50:08
Quote from: Niall on Mar 27, 2011, 00:02:08
4.3.1 is out for the iphone. I've been checking every day curious to see how long it will take them to fix the wireless problem on the ipad2. No idea what it fixed as it didn't tell me ::)

Ah well. Lets see if my phone battery is dead in the morning.
Look on the apple site, as to phone battery draining, I never had your issue, but it seems to be better anyway on 4.3.1 so maybe it should, I get just about two days out of my iphone 4 with wifi on 24/7 browsing app usage etc.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Niall on Mar 29, 2011, 11:58:12
Battery life is MUCH better now. I left the phone on overnight (I'm off work I'll, so I've got nothing better to do!) and it used 11% with wireless enabled. Pre update you'd be lucky if the phone had more than 20% left with that on, overnight.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Mar 30, 2011, 07:55:31
Quote from: Niall on Mar 29, 2011, 11:58:12
Battery life is MUCH better now. I left the phone on overnight (I'm off work I'll, so I've got nothing better to do!) and it used 11% with wireless enabled. Pre update you'd be lucky if the phone had more than 20% left with that on, overnight.
Glad its beeter Niall, 4.3 added ALSR  so maybe there was a bug in that and 4.3.1 cured it.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Niall on Apr 01, 2011, 11:24:03
Well I've been leaving this on now, with wi-fi always on and this update has either vastly improved something, or corrected something that was broken. I actually left it on for 2 days, with occasional use (generally when I was in bed feeling ill!) and it only ran down to 46% which is a huge improvement.

So mini waves and yay :D
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Lance on Apr 03, 2011, 23:21:55
Sounds like it's fixed something, rather than improved it.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Apr 14, 2011, 18:32:51
Safari 5.0.5 security fixes http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1070
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Apr 14, 2011, 18:52:08
 :thumb:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Simon on Apr 14, 2011, 19:23:06
Has it got a password importer yet?
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Apr 14, 2011, 20:09:35
Er No!
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Simon on Apr 14, 2011, 22:25:16
Sod!  If it did, I might seriously have tried it, but I have too many stored passwords in SeaMonkey to be able to switch without the means to transfer them.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Niall on Apr 15, 2011, 17:49:41
4.3.2 is out. Installing now, because my phone is working perfectly, and that won't do :P
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Apr 15, 2011, 18:15:44
It's mentioned under mobile devices Niall http://www.idnetters.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,25455.msg605782.html#msg605782
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Apr 18, 2011, 22:10:13
iTunes 10.2.2 released
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Apr 18, 2011, 22:11:21
 :thumb: Gary
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Apr 18, 2011, 22:27:17
Doesn't do anything I need, but it's only a little one, so done :thumb:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Apr 26, 2011, 21:30:14
Snow leopard Font update. The Snow Leopard Font Update addresses issues displaying and printing certain OpenType fonts and is recommended for all Mac OS X v10.6.7 users.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Apr 26, 2011, 21:46:49
Thanks Gary. :thumb:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Apr 26, 2011, 22:26:21
iPhoto 9.1.2
MobileMe Control Panel for Windows
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Najarak on May 06, 2011, 13:38:07
IOS 4.3.3 is out see here (http://www.apple.com/uk/ios/?cid=mc-uk-g-ios-ios)

Downloaded to my iPod touch and iPad, just over 1GB in total. I should have done it in the off-peak time!

All seems OK :fingers:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Ray on May 06, 2011, 13:42:15
 :thumb:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on May 18, 2011, 02:32:43
ProKit 7.0 (Snow Leopard 10.6.6 and later)
This ProKit Update fixes minor issues and is recommended for users of Final Cut Pro, Motion, Soundtrack Pro, DVD Studio Pro, iPhoto, Aperture, Final Cut Express, Logic Pro, MainStage, Logic Express and iAd Producer.

and Digital Camera RAW Compatibility Update 3.7
This update adds RAW image compatibility to Aperture 3 and iPhoto '11.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on May 18, 2011, 06:44:43
Thanks Gary :thumb:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Jun 01, 2011, 07:13:03
Snow Leopard security update

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4657

Allows daily update of malware definitions ( there is an opt out available via the security tab in system preferences - "automatically update safe downloads list"


Removes MacDefender if present
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: MikeSh on Jun 01, 2011, 07:40:13
Thanks Steve
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Jun 01, 2011, 08:33:17
 :thumb:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Jun 01, 2011, 22:17:01
Oh Dear!

8 hours later - http://www.macrumors.com/2011/06/01/new-variant-of-mac-defender-quickly-evades-apples-security-update-as-cat-and-mouse-game-begins/


At least we should get automatic daily updates now , well we'll see how frequent daily is >:D
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Jun 01, 2011, 22:45:42
Quote from: Steve on Jun 01, 2011, 22:17:01well we'll see how frequent daily is >:D

I wonder if it will tell you in the system log when it does an update?
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Jun 02, 2011, 20:52:46
Quote from: Bill on Jun 01, 2011, 22:45:42
I wonder if it will tell you in the system log when it does an update?
Use terminal and run this. more /System/Library/CoreServices/CoreTypes.bundle/Contents/Resources/XProtect.meta.plist

That shows the date of the latest update, if it says the 26th you have the older update, Apple have updated the lsit since the security update  came out, the latest date is is 1st June at 19:15. GMT To force your Mac to update just uncheck Automatically update safe downloads list in the security preference pane, then re-tick it, and run that terminal command again.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Jun 02, 2011, 21:13:02
Ta for that :thumb:

Someone on tbb pointed me towards xprotect, they'd picked it up with Little Snitch. I found an entry for it at ~9am today in the system log, unfortunately it was an "Unable to connect" error- it had chosen to update whilst I was re-booting the router >:(

Sod's Law strikes again...

So I'm still on the old version, I'll leave it alone and have another look tomorrow.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Jun 03, 2011, 08:55:11
Rebooting also triggers xprotext, its part of the startup in the console logs Blll  :)
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Jun 03, 2011, 21:03:55
It's handy to know how to force it- I've found that if the computer happens to be in sleep mode when update time comes around, it won't re-try when it wakes up.

Could be a pain if you somehow get the update time set to the wee small hours!
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Jun 07, 2011, 09:01:29
Itunes Beta 10.3 available for download, not via software updater for me yet though...probably as its a beta.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Jun 07, 2011, 19:03:01
As I understand it the iTunes 10.3 is not beta but some of the limited features of iCloud available in this release are a beta version if that makes any sense which it probably doesn't.

What's new in iTunes 10.3

Introducing iTunes in the Cloud beta. The music you purchase in iTunes appears automatically on all your devices. You can also download your past iTunes purchases. Where you want, when you want.

• Automatic Downloads. Purchase music from any device or computer and automatically download a copy to your Mac and iOS devices.

• Download Previous Purchases. Download your past music purchases again at no additional cost. Your purchases are available in the iTunes Store on your Mac or in the iTunes app on your iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch. Previous purchases may be unavailable if they are no longer on the iTunes Store.

iTunes 10.3 also adds Books to the iTunes Store, where you can discover and buy your favorite books on your computer and automatically download them to iBooks on your iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch. This version also allows you to use Automatic Downloads with apps and books or download previously purchased apps and books from your computer or iOS device.

For information on the security content of this update, please visit: support.apple.com/kb/HT1222
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Jun 07, 2011, 20:02:20
So they want me to scatter my files all over the internet with beta software... yeah, right  :P
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Stevescat on Jun 07, 2011, 20:21:37
Unfortunately, no music yet for us in the UK, only Apps and Books. Bugger!
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Niall on Jun 07, 2011, 21:20:16
While that seems like a good idea in theory, what if you have bandwidth caps? You'll be downloading the same files across a network. Someone that has a mac, iphone and ipad would download things three times with each purchase.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Jun 08, 2011, 14:42:37
iTunes 10.3.1 released which fixes and a potential issue with syncing iOS devices.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Jun 15, 2011, 18:14:52
Talking about Wifi there's an update to the Airport utility 5.5.3

http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1390
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: pctech on Jun 15, 2011, 19:26:28
Quote from: Steve on Jun 15, 2011, 18:14:52
Talking about Wifi there's an update to the Airport utility 5.5.3

Yeah apparently they've added another runway.


Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Jun 16, 2011, 17:23:07
Quote from: pctech on Jun 15, 2011, 19:26:28
Yeah apparently they've added another runway.



Ever thought of going into stand up comedy Mitch? Don't!  ;)  ;D
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Lance on Jun 16, 2011, 18:16:40
I'm not sure he would be a flying success!   ;D
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Jun 16, 2011, 19:55:35
Quote from: Lance on Jun 16, 2011, 18:16:40
I'm not sure he would be a flying success!   ;D
:slap:  ;D
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: pctech on Jun 22, 2011, 10:30:49
Quote from: Gary on Jun 16, 2011, 17:23:07
Ever thought of going into stand up comedy Mitch? Don't!  ;)  ;D

:nana: Just because its an Apple joke  ;D
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Najarak on Jun 23, 2011, 21:02:37
10.6.8 now available through Software Update

"The 10.6.8 update is recommended for all users running Mac OS X Snow Leopard and includes general operating system fixes that enhance the stability, compatibility, and security of your Mac, including fixes that:
Enhance the Mac App Store to get your Mac ready to upgrade to Mac OS X Lion
Resolve an issue that may cause Preview to unexpectedly quit
Improve support for IPv6
Improve VPN reliability
Identify and remove known variants of Mac Defender
For detailed information on this update, please visit this website: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4561.
For information on the security content of this update, please visit: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1222."


Interesting mention of Mac Defender :)
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Jun 23, 2011, 21:15:31
Ta ;D

I'm more interested in the IPv6 update, it's a pity the "detailed information" link doesn't work :P

Just about to press the Restart button...


edit- no problems :thumb:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Jun 23, 2011, 21:41:52
All ok here, a prior update addressed the Mac Defender already nby updating the definitions every 24 hours in X-protect. All seems fine here. Not sure if there were any more updates to the new three aerial Airport card in my mac but it seems to grab the wireless faster.  :thumb:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Jun 23, 2011, 21:57:13
Quote from: pctech on Jun 22, 2011, 10:30:49
:nana: Just because its an Apple joke  ;D
No, just because I would hate to see you bottled that badly off stage  :muahaha: ;D
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Jun 23, 2011, 22:11:04
Quote from: Gary on Jun 23, 2011, 21:41:52but it seems to grab the wireless faster.  :thumb:

Possible- I get the impression that items start up in a different order to before.

Previously, the wallpaper would come up and then almost immediately dim as Shades loaded in, now Shades starts up pretty much last :dunno:

Maybe something to do with the MacDefender check?
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Jun 23, 2011, 22:17:38
Quote from: Bill on Jun 23, 2011, 21:15:31it's a pity the "detailed information" link doesn't work :P

It works now, but it doesn't really tell you anything >:(
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Jun 23, 2011, 23:52:54
Quote from: Bill on Jun 23, 2011, 22:11:04
Possible- I get the impression that items start up in a different order to before.

Previously, the wallpaper would come up and then almost immediately dim as Shades loaded in, now Shades starts up pretty much last :dunno:

Maybe something to do with the MacDefender check?
My iMac has a light sensor next to the webcam that dims and brightens the backlight automatically so I cant hep you on that one Bill  :dunno:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Jun 24, 2011, 00:00:36
Quote from: Gary on Jun 23, 2011, 23:52:54
My iMac has a light sensor next to the webcam that dims and brightens the backlight automatically so I cant hep you on that one Bill  :dunno:

I've got that on the MacBook, but not the iMac... Shades is handy because it puts a couple of icons on the menu bar that allow me to easily adjust either monitor without diving into sys prefs.

And it was free ;D
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Jun 24, 2011, 07:54:43
Quote from: Bill on Jun 24, 2011, 00:00:36
I've got that on the MacBook, but not the iMac... Shades is handy because it puts a couple of icons on the menu bar that allow me to easily adjust either monitor without diving into sys prefs.

And it was free ;D
I tried shades on my other iMac, it works well but mucks up the colour calibration I found.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: pctech on Jun 24, 2011, 09:50:36
I like shades too but find wearing them a bit troublesome indoors  ;D
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Jun 24, 2011, 10:41:04
Quote from: pctech on Jun 24, 2011, 09:50:36
I like shades too but find wearing them a bit troublesome indoors  ;D
You know that bottling off stage I was talking about, Mitch?  ;D
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: pctech on Jun 24, 2011, 10:42:13
 ;D
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Simon on Jun 24, 2011, 10:52:01
And we know what the bottles are full of, Gary.  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Jun 24, 2011, 11:16:29
Quote from: Simon on Jun 24, 2011, 10:52:01
And we know what the bottles are full of, Gary.  ;) ;D
:rofl:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Jun 24, 2011, 11:17:55
Quote from: Gary on Jun 24, 2011, 07:54:43
I tried shades on my other iMac, it works well but mucks up the colour calibration I found.

That's not normally a great concern to me, but the Mac is sited in a position where ambient light can vary quite a lot over the day. So ease of changing the brightness takes precedence!
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Jun 24, 2011, 11:26:48
Quote from: Bill on Jun 24, 2011, 11:17:55
That's not normally a great concern to me, but the Mac is sited in a position where ambient light can vary quite a lot over the day. So ease of changing the brightness takes precedence!
Thats annoying, like having your TV overwelmed by light in the day, if you game thats really a pain, so you have to keep adjusting the brightness, the sensors on TV's tend to be a pain as they dim to much at night so I always turn them off.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Jun 28, 2011, 08:30:14
Thunderbolt update 1.0  released requires 10.6.8.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Jun 28, 2011, 21:35:39
Java RE update 5 released
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Jun 28, 2011, 21:45:37
Cheers Gary :thumb:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Niall on Jun 29, 2011, 20:16:27
Quote from: pctech on Jun 24, 2011, 09:50:36
I like shades too but find wearing them a bit troublesome indoors  ;D

But you have to when the future is so bright.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: pctech on Jun 29, 2011, 20:39:11
 ;D

Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Jun 29, 2011, 21:11:46
Quote from: Niall on Jun 29, 2011, 20:16:27
But you have to when the future is so bright.
wasn't that Orange?  ;D
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Simon on Jun 30, 2011, 00:02:43
Not for long.  ;D
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Jun 30, 2011, 10:49:25
Quote from: Simon on Jun 30, 2011, 00:02:43
Not for long.  ;D
;D
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Jun 30, 2011, 20:24:02
Flash player 10.3.181.34 released.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Ardua on Jun 30, 2011, 20:49:38
Parallels 6 for Desktop v 6.0.12092 just released. Essential if you have upgraded to Mac OS X v 10.6.8. I spent this morning trying to resolve issues with 100% constant CPU, no menu bar and Safari 5 crashes. The problem appears to be Parallels 6 incompatibility with the precursor OS upgrade to Mac OS lion. Other programmes also have issues with 10.6.8 as reported in Apple Discussions. Not a good week for Apple coming after the Final Cut Pro X PR debacle.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Jun 30, 2011, 21:02:49
Some peoples 10.6.8 issues seem machine related as well, I guess Apple concentrate like any manufacture on their own ends, how many times has MS service packs broken programs... As to Final Cut pro...never be the first to update a new program, that goes without saying for all manufacturers, I wont be in a hurry to update to Lion...

http://www.thinq.co.uk/2011/6/29/apple-attempts-quell-final-cut-pro-x-anger/
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Jul 11, 2011, 18:22:51
iMovie,iPhoto and Garageband updates available,which incidentally appeared on the App Store first.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Jul 12, 2011, 07:23:39
iWeb and iDVD out as well , expensive month potentially for downloads. I was thinking that these releases were a prelude to OS X Lion release later this week,however Apple has only just asked for submissions to App Store for OS X Lion compatible software.There are two hardware updates this week I'd be surprised if they didn't come with Lion though.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Jul 12, 2011, 10:44:11
Quote from: Steve on Jul 12, 2011, 07:23:39There are two hardware updates this week I'd be surprised if they didn't come with Lion though.

I think they're more likely to come with SL and the free upgrade (http://www.macworld.co.uk/mac/news/index.cfm?newsid=3285206).
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Jul 12, 2011, 11:09:17
I'm holding off Lion for a while to see what happens to others, by all accounts its very stable but a few point updates never hurt. Also servers are going to groan under the weight on release day. Bleeding edge just is to painful these days.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Jul 12, 2011, 12:48:45
Firefox 5.0.1 update for OS X Lion to stop severe crash bug just popped up and for a bug with ff and os x java update.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Jul 12, 2011, 13:11:02
I seem to be running FF version 6  :eek4:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Jul 12, 2011, 17:42:45
Quote from: Steve on Jul 12, 2011, 13:11:02
I seem to be running FF version 6  :eek4:
Just 5.0.1 here. 3.6 being phased out in August possibly for the people sticking with it thus far.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Jul 12, 2011, 17:46:39
I sneaked the wife up to FF 5.0.1 yesterday >:D I'd forgotten I was on the beta FF  :blush:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Jul 12, 2011, 22:29:57
Quote from: Steve on Jul 12, 2011, 17:46:39
I sneaked the wife up to FF 5.0.1 yesterday >:D I'd forgotten I was on the beta FF  :blush:
;D
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Jul 20, 2011, 21:29:49
There's a whole raft of updates Safari 5.1, iWork 9.1,iTunes 10.4 (64bit),Java for OS X Lion, Remote Desktop Admin and client and a couple of migration assistants
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Jul 20, 2011, 21:38:53
Thanks, but I think I'll leave them until this slowdown speeds up again, they won't be going anywhere :P
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Simon on Jul 20, 2011, 21:52:39
I've just tried the iTunes 10.4 update for Windows, and got 'invalid signature - cannot install'.  :dunno:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Jul 20, 2011, 21:57:45
I think it may be a good week or two to ignore the Apple update sites...
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Jul 20, 2011, 22:46:11
Quote from: Simon on Jul 20, 2011, 21:52:39
I've just tried the iTunes 10.4 update for Windows, and got 'invalid signature - cannot install'.  :dunno:

All I can see is a 10.4 iTunes 64 bit  Windows  version Simon, I guess your still running a 32 bit OS so it won't install.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Simon on Jul 20, 2011, 22:49:44
It was an auto update via iTunes, Steve.  As it happens, I've just tried it again, and it's installed now.  :dunno:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Jul 20, 2011, 22:52:40
Sorry I've found it now, couldn't see the 32 bit version amongst all the other updates.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Jul 30, 2011, 16:53:13
Supplemental update available for Snow Leopard:

QuoteThe Mac OS X 10.6.8 Supplemental Update is recommended for all users running Mac OS X Snow Leopard 10.6.8 and resolves issues with:
Transferring personal data, settings, and compatible applications from a Mac running Mac OS X Snow Leopard to a new Mac running Mac OS X Lion
Certain network printers that pause print jobs immediately and fail to complete
System audio that stops working when using HDMI or optical audio out
For detailed information on this update, please visit this website: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4561.

Only a tiddler (10.5MB), restart needed.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Jul 30, 2011, 17:04:15
Thanks Bill , I left that one as all my Macs are now running Lion, I've just been looking at the Lion server but not sure whether I've any use for it.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Jul 30, 2011, 17:09:06
I always use Software Update, and rely on it not to tell me about updates I don't need/can't use.

It seems to work, I've noticed differences between notifications for the iMac and the MacBook on occasion.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Jul 30, 2011, 17:12:51
I use it for all the minor updates but stick to the combo for the larger ones it saves on the download allowance.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Jul 30, 2011, 17:25:21
I know a lot of people do that, and it can make sense, but I don't normally crowd my limit that closely.

I think I've only once delayed an update until after midnight!
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Jul 30, 2011, 17:33:08
I can't believe I've not gone over with the numerous Lion downloads.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Jul 31, 2011, 17:46:13
Quote from: Steve on Jul 30, 2011, 17:33:08
I can't believe I've not gone over with the numerous Lion downloads.
Because my new iMac has Lion on it, Steve you get no discs not even for iLife, so after an hour and half to download Lion (tried resinstalling for what turns out to be a lion/itunes bug it seems) you then have to download the entire iLife collection if you use it, then Pages etc. that must be 7Gb  :( I was up at 4:30am doing it before peak time started.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Aug 10, 2011, 09:36:48
10.3.183.5 released which is compatible with OS X Lion...so far  ;)
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: lozcart on Aug 16, 2011, 21:24:53
Mac OS X 10.7.1 update released.

The 10.7.1 update is recommended for all users running OS X Lion and includes general operating system fixes that enhance the stability and compatibility of your Mac, including fixes that:

- Address an issue that may cause the system to become unresponsive when playing a video in Safari
- Resolve an issue that may cause system audio to stop working when using HDMI or optical audio out
- Improve the reliability of Wi-Fi connections
- Resolve an issue that prevents transfer of your data, settings, and compatible applications to a new Mac running OS X Lion

For detailed information on this update, please visit this website: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4764.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Aug 16, 2011, 21:52:42
Thanks  :thumb: I'm hoping his sorts a wifi issue on the MBP when Time Machine is in use following wake from sleep.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Aug 16, 2011, 23:24:11
All installed here, it ended up being a 17MB download for me.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Aug 16, 2011, 23:35:17
Quote from: lozcart on Aug 16, 2011, 21:24:53
For detailed information on this update, please visit this website: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4764.

QuoteResolve an issue in which an admin user account could be missing after upgrading to OS X Lion.

Think I'll wait until 10.7.2...

At least >:(
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Aug 16, 2011, 23:38:01
Quote from: Bill on Aug 16, 2011, 23:35:17
Think I'll wait until 10.7.2...

At least >:(
My iMac came with it installed Bill, on the whole I like it, the extra security is a good and its as fast on this iMac as my old one with SL on it as well. If I had an iMac with 10.6.8 I would wait maybe till 10.6.2 which brings iCloud, but this update should have helped a lot. I got SL when it was at 10.6.1 and I had no major issues.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Aug 16, 2011, 23:46:08
Quote from: Gary on Aug 16, 2011, 23:38:01
My iMac came with it installed Bill, on the whole I like it, the extra security is a good and its as fast on this iMac as my old one with SL on it as well. If I had an iMac with 10.6.8 I would wait maybe till 10.6.2 which brings iCloud, but this update should have helped a lot. I got SL when it was at 10.6.1 and I had no major issues.


I'm sure I'll update in due course- in the past I've always updated as soon as anything became available.

I'm just wary of Lion... I never expect a major OS upgrade to be perfect from the off, but this one seems to have more than its fair share of niggles.

And frankly, I would describe an admin account going missing as a LOT more than a niggle, especially if it had happened to me :mad:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Aug 17, 2011, 00:05:22
Quote from: Bill on Aug 16, 2011, 23:46:08
I'm sure I'll update in due course- in the past I've always updated as soon as anything became available.

I'm just wary of Lion... I never expect a major OS upgrade to be perfect from the off, but this one seems to have more than its fair share of niggles.

And frankly, I would describe an admin account going missing as a LOT more than a niggle, especially if it had happened to me :mad:
Thats not happened to everyone though and tbh once you install Lion I would probably clean install it anyway at some point, you have to remember the forums are like hospitals, you never get people saying how well its working, also updating an OS can corrupt stuff, some peoples complaints are because thier hardware/software was not in order. No need to be angry about an OS you have not got really either. Wait your time, or update, you can go back to SL if you have that anyway already.

I had no choice as the replacement imac came with Lion installed. SL had some issues that were fixed in 10.6.1 one I remember was quite a biggy fixed in 10.6.2 that could meant if you had logged into your guest account you may lose all your data in your main account when you tried to log back into it..
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Aug 22, 2011, 21:51:28
iTunes 1.4.1 - 12.4MB via software update
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: lozcart on Aug 22, 2011, 21:56:31
 :thumb: 

Another very small update, my monthly download allowance can cope with these  ;)
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Aug 22, 2011, 21:58:57
It's 90 odd MB full download.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Simon on Aug 22, 2011, 22:12:38
Another one?  ::)
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Aug 23, 2011, 10:47:08
Quote from: Simon on Aug 22, 2011, 22:12:38
Another one?  ::)
iTunes 10.4.1 hope its less buggy than 10.4  :eyebrow:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: zappaDPJ on Aug 25, 2011, 07:18:55
Not on my PC it isn't! It bails out with an error halfway through the install. I'll give this one a miss and wait for the next one I think.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: zappaDPJ on Aug 26, 2011, 12:29:15
Or maybe not. It seems I've been left with a half-baked installation or should that be apple strudel ;D

iTunes runs but with very little functionality and error message telling me I have very little functionality. It appears to think it's still running on the previous version though so perhaps I should try a manual installation :dunno:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Ray on Aug 26, 2011, 12:34:05
That's happened to me on the last 2 updates, just trying the latest one to see what happens this time. :fingers: :eyebrow:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Rik on Aug 26, 2011, 12:35:37
I hate iTunes updates. >:(
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Glenn on Aug 26, 2011, 12:36:37
I don't use it with my iPod  ;D
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Ray on Aug 26, 2011, 12:38:19
Crashed and burned again.  :shake: don't think I'll bother again.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Rik on Aug 26, 2011, 12:39:07
Quote from: Glenn on Aug 26, 2011, 12:36:37
I don't use it with my iPod  ;D

;D
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Rik on Aug 26, 2011, 12:39:32
Quote from: Ray on Aug 26, 2011, 12:38:19
Crashed and burned again.  :shake: don't think I'll bother again.

It's all Steve Jobs' fault... ;)
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Lance on Aug 26, 2011, 12:44:40
Worked fine for me. Many versions ago I went through a patch were I always had to download and run it manually.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: zappaDPJ on Aug 26, 2011, 12:51:23
Well at least I know it's not just me then. It's the first time I've had an issue with it though.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: zappaDPJ on Aug 27, 2011, 11:45:21
I nailed it, I couldn't leave it alone. I managed to get it installed by disabling a load of services temporarily.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Aug 27, 2011, 11:47:02
Probably because the installer couldn't. ;)
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: zappaDPJ on Aug 27, 2011, 11:50:58
Yeah ;D
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Sep 09, 2011, 20:47:07
Security update 2011-005 for Lion and Snow Leopard. This relates to DigiNotar Certificate hack.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Sep 10, 2011, 09:41:30
Quote from: Steve on Sep 09, 2011, 20:47:07
Security update 2011-005 for Lion and Snow Leopard. This relates to DigiNotar Certificate hack.
Only 9 days late, Apple didnt even warn its users like MS  :shake: Microsoft, Firefox and Google Chrome got patched much faster  although for now Android and iOS devices are still vulnerable.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Oct 12, 2011, 01:23:11
Itunes 10.5 released
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Oct 12, 2011, 18:24:42
OS X Lion 10.7.2 is out in the wild (iCloud release), servers currently very slow I  guess they're very busy.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Niall on Oct 12, 2011, 18:49:00
Time to see if the new iphone OS kills my phone *tinkers* ;D
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Stevescat on Oct 12, 2011, 20:46:48
Best of luck Niall, because I'm getting an internal error for the sixth time of trying to update my iPad2! :mad: By the quantity of posts saying the same thing on Macrumours, it appears to be an overload of Apple servers.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Stevescat on Oct 12, 2011, 21:03:49
Would you believe it, seventh time of trying we have success! ;D
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Oct 13, 2011, 08:42:24
I lost my entire camera roll  :mad: not happy  >:( icloud syncing also takes way to long on ADSL Max lines, three bladdy hours! Its easier to sync via iTunes.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Oct 13, 2011, 19:15:47
Lion 10.7.2 detail

http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1459

iCloud stores your email, calendars, contacts, Safari bookmarks, and Safari Reading List and automatically pushes them to all your devices.
Back to My Mac provides remote access to your Mac from another Mac anywhere on the Internet.
Find My Mac helps find a missing Mac by locating it on a map and allows you to remotely lock the Mac or wipe all its data.
The 10.7.2 update also includes Safari 5.1.1 as well as fixes that:
Allow reordering of desktop spaces and full screen apps in Mission Control.
Enable dragging files between desktop spaces and full screen apps.
Address an issue that causes the menu bar to not appear in full screen apps.
Improve the compatibility of Google contact syncing in Address Book.
Address an issue that causes Keynote to become temporarily unresponsive.
Improve VoiceOver compatibility with Launchpad.
Address an issue that causes a delay in accessing the network after waking from sleep.
Enable booting in to Lion Recovery from a locally attached Time Machine backup drive.
Resolve an issue that causes screen zoom to stop working.
Improve Active Directory integration.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Nov 09, 2011, 06:55:28
Java update 1 for OS X Lion and java update 6 for OS X SL is available.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Nov 09, 2011, 09:54:02
Thanks Steve :thumb:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Nov 10, 2011, 11:39:01
Just a heads up: it would seem the update breaks the tbb speedtest with Snow Leopard, but not with Lion... thread here:

http://forums.thinkbroadband.com/newsite/t/4062264-mac-java-problems.html
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Nov 10, 2011, 11:49:15
It seems to have broken the BT speedtester too, which might be more of a nuisance :mad:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Glenn on Nov 10, 2011, 12:14:33
BT Speedtester has been down for 2 or 3 days now.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Nov 10, 2011, 12:37:34
Works fine on my Windows laptop.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Nov 10, 2011, 13:43:27
Thanks Bill , perhaps it's time for a change of pet. ;)
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Nov 10, 2011, 14:21:40
Think I'll stick with SL- Lion doesn't seem to provide anything I want or need, and I can manage without speed tests for a while ;)
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Nov 11, 2011, 08:22:46
Quote from: Bill on Nov 10, 2011, 14:21:40
Think I'll stick with SL- Lion doesn't seem to provide anything I want or need, and I can manage without speed tests for a while ;)
Must admit I wouldn't go back to snow leopard now, Lion has better security for a start, full ASLR and sandboxing beats SL hands down in security these days, and puts Lion up there with Windows 7 Security wise.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Nov 11, 2011, 09:34:51
I'll think about it :P

Re the Java / tbb speedtester issue- it started working properly this morning, without me doing anything :dunno:

It popped and banged a bit, like a car that doesn't want to start, then it was fine. BT speedtester is OK too.

(That's with Safari, they still won't play using Opera)
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Nov 11, 2011, 10:05:03
10.7.2 seems pretty stable for me, initial issues with the MBP 2010 15in have been resolved for me. I use iCloud features so going back is not really an option for me.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Nov 14, 2011, 22:04:45
iTunes 10.5.1 is out, this is the iTunes match release for US iTunes store customers,no sign of UK availability yet.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Nov 15, 2011, 08:46:53
Quote from: Steve on Nov 11, 2011, 10:05:03
10.7.2 seems pretty stable for me, initial issues with the MBP 2010 15in have been resolved for me. I use iCloud features so going back is not really an option for me.
I am seeing 10.7.2 as the best build so far, still a few bugs as always but its stable enough now, what I like is if you do want to reinstall, you get the latest version, none of that updating to the latest, version rubbish now. Same with iLife as mine is from the app store as my iMac came with Lion installed.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Dec 02, 2011, 19:14:30
Keynote 5.1.1 update for large presentations and OS X Lion.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Dec 12, 2011, 22:43:46
iTunes 10.5.2 - including windows version iMatch fixes plus a playback distortion fix for certain imported CDs.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Rik on Dec 13, 2011, 09:47:12
That's interesting, Steve, I've been noticing lately that iTunes has taken a dislike to some CDs, even though they convert just fine with other software.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Dec 13, 2011, 10:20:19
If you use error correction in iTunes for CD import and playback try turning it off or vice versa.  I leave it on for CD import usually.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Rik on Dec 13, 2011, 10:21:27
Thanks.  :thumb: Curiously, all the problems occurred with one, esoteric, CD label.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Jan 19, 2012, 20:27:06
iTunes 10.5.3 released, bug fixes and...erm...oh yeah stuff for iTunes U  ;)
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Simon on Jan 19, 2012, 21:54:33
 :thumb:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Feb 01, 2012, 07:44:19
There are updates to Airport Utility v6 IOS like and airport hardware 7.6.1 the later corrects a wifi issue and enables iCloud support for Time Capsule or an attached disk via back to my mac
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Feb 02, 2012, 06:34:07
OS X Lion 10.7.3

http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1485
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Feb 02, 2012, 10:52:36
Be careful:

http://forums.thinkbroadband.com/mac/t/4088367-1073-bjorked-my-server.html

I have still seen no good reason to upgrade from Snow Leopard...
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Feb 02, 2012, 11:02:57
Some would argue OS X Lion server was borked on conception. Certainly you don't need OS X Lion if you've no interest in integration with IOS devices ie photostream and other iCloud features. Full screen apps are pleasing but not essential.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Feb 02, 2012, 14:02:23
Quote from: Steve on Feb 02, 2012, 11:02:57
Some would argue OS X Lion server was borked on conception. Certainly you don't need OS X Lion if you've no interest in integration with IOS devices ie photostream and other iCloud features. Full screen apps are pleasing but not essential.
I would not entirely agree, Steve. Snow leopard hardly did anything for security over Leopard, in fact it was criticised for that very reason by not implementing full ASLR, Lion has full ASLR has been augmented, so that even if hackers clear that hurdle, they'll still have to bypass other new protections, among them is a sandbox design that shields the most vulnerable and vital parts of the computer from attack. Safari, for example, has now been divided into two processes that separate the browser's user interface and other functions from the part that parses JavaScript, images, and other web content.

  As time moves on malware moves on also even for OS X. Its a bit like people sticking to XP, that OS is truly old now and cannot hold its own against modern malware, even with a good security suite. The improvements in Lion do help a lot, much work was done on Lions security and that alone is I believe reason these days, and as for full screen apps, iPhoto for one is much better now, Mail is certainly improved as is Calendar in full screen.
  I think some people try to convince themselves change is bad because familiarity brings comfort, that's fine if its your favourite chair, but not a computer operating system.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Feb 02, 2012, 14:21:13
Yes I did omit the security changes.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Feb 02, 2012, 18:47:49
Good job I used the combo but then I tend to for large updates to save on bandwidth.

http://www.macrumors.com/2012/02/02/os-x-10-7-3-update-issues-fixable-in-many-cases-with-combo-version/
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Mar 08, 2012, 00:28:55
iTunes has been updated to 10.6 along with iPhoto 9.22 and Garageband 6.05
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Mar 08, 2012, 10:25:39
Thanks Gary , no hiccups there :fingers:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Mar 08, 2012, 10:30:59
 :thumb:

Doesn't take very long at >50Mbps either :P
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Mar 12, 2012, 19:10:16
Safari 5.1.4 released, security and compatibility.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Mar 12, 2012, 19:21:50
Thanks Gary. :thumb:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Mar 26, 2012, 22:57:09
Safari 5.1.5 released, bugs and security.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Rik on Mar 27, 2012, 08:42:06
Why would they issue bugs?  :whistle:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Simon on Mar 27, 2012, 11:19:36
They do with iTunes!  :mad:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Rik on Mar 27, 2012, 17:40:04
 :laugh:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Mar 28, 2012, 01:56:27
Quote from: Simon on Mar 27, 2012, 11:19:36
They do with iTunes!  :mad:
I have had no issues with 10.6 but using it on Windows is a different I guess.  :dunno:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Mar 28, 2012, 01:58:49
Quote from: Rik on Mar 27, 2012, 08:42:06
Why would they issue bugs?  :whistle:
Because with each new update comes new bugs.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Simon on Mar 28, 2012, 10:40:35
Just for the record, my iTunes is now working again, after reinstalling F-Secure Internet Security.  It seems that several security apps have had issues with the latest version of iTunes.   I found a list on the Apple forums, but F-Secure wasn't actually one of them.  Of course, it's not Apple's fault.  Their solution is for users to wait until all the other affected software has been updated to be compatible with theirs.  And Apple wonder why they are accused of arrogance.  ::)
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: pctech on Mar 28, 2012, 11:01:45
That is my problem with them and to some extent a section of their users.

While we have Mac versions of some of the software I support it is not uniform at the moment and when you deliver yhe bad news they'll have to use Bootcampm Parallels or the like to run Windows you'd think I'd insulted them personally and they often launch into a tirade about how we are discriminating against them etc.

I just let them get it off their chest and explain I'm not involved in deciding support policy and my role exists to help where possible.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Simon on Mar 28, 2012, 11:05:04
It's a bit like a fuel company offering a new type of fuel, but when you find your car won't run on it, they won't let you go back to the old fuel, but tell you you've got to buy a new car. 
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: pctech on Mar 28, 2012, 11:08:50
Indeed Simon.

How are you fairing with the Diesel price by the way?

Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Simon on Mar 28, 2012, 11:16:14
Can't do much about it, Mitch.  :(
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Lance on Mar 28, 2012, 17:48:26
Quote from: pctech on Mar 28, 2012, 11:08:50
How are you fairing with the Diesel price by the way?

Probably about double ;)

I had a €79 taxi ride earlier  :eek4:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Rik on Mar 29, 2012, 07:35:23
There goes the council tax.  :evil:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Mar 29, 2012, 23:15:25
iTunes 10.6.1 Yesterday and iPhoto 9.2.3 today.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Rik on Mar 30, 2012, 09:03:20
I'll be seeing you tomorrow? ;)
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Simon on Mar 30, 2012, 09:25:18
Whilst I though reinstalling F-Secure had fixed my iTunes, unfortunately, it was only a temporary respite, and the problems started up again last night.  Hopefully this new version will address them. 
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Rik on Mar 30, 2012, 09:26:58
Or break something else. :evil:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Mar 30, 2012, 09:45:21
Quote from: pctech on Mar 28, 2012, 11:01:45
That is my problem with them and to some extent a section of their users.

While we have Mac versions of some of the software I support it is not uniform at the moment and when you deliver yhe bad news they'll have to use Bootcampm Parallels or the like to run Windows you'd think I'd insulted them personally and they often launch into a tirade about how we are discriminating against them etc.

I just let them get it off their chest and explain I'm not involved in deciding support policy and my role exists to help where possible.
Just the one problem, Mitch.  ;)
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Mar 30, 2012, 09:48:30
Quote from: Simon on Mar 28, 2012, 10:40:35
Just for the record, my iTunes is now working again, after reinstalling F-Secure Internet Security.  It seems that several security apps have had issues with the latest version of iTunes.   I found a list on the Apple forums, but F-Secure wasn't actually one of them.  Of course, it's not Apple's fault.  Their solution is for users to wait until all the other affected software has been updated to be compatible with theirs.  And Apple wonder why they are accused of arrogance.  ::)
No different from Windows and many other pieces of software, Simon. Kaspersky broke loads of applications in its time, AV hooks go so deep they basically stuff any computer as soon as you install them it seems, and as they monitor in real time many apps get affected by them, or an update comes along and deletes part of the program you are using as it thinks its malware...
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Rik on Mar 30, 2012, 10:49:38
Abandon AV all who enter here!  ;D
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Simon on Mar 30, 2012, 12:51:08
Can't live with them, can't live without them... 
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Apr 04, 2012, 23:18:42
Java update for 10.6 available.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Apr 04, 2012, 23:30:04
Thanks Bill, there's one for Lion as well. :thumb:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Apr 13, 2012, 09:14:04
New Java update released for those that use it, on Lion Java is now hardened so after 35 days if not used the plugin is turned off (this can be turned on again in safari settings, also the new update searches for and removes known variants of the flashback Trojan, infection is now down to about 270,000 machines.

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/bott/apple-releases-flashback-removal-tool-infections-drop-to-270000/4775
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Apr 13, 2012, 09:23:13
Also new version of Flash player released, 11.2.202.233
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Apr 13, 2012, 10:03:50
Thanks Gary.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Apr 13, 2012, 11:05:10
Quote from: Gary on Apr 13, 2012, 09:14:04on Lion Java is now hardened so after 35 days if not used the plugin is turned off

I'm still on Snow Leopard so this is more of a theoretical objection- I think I might well class that as a nuisance, I hate software that "looks after my best interests" :mad:

Unless it can be turned off, of course.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Apr 13, 2012, 11:36:48
Quote from: Bill on Apr 13, 2012, 11:05:10
I'm still on Snow Leopard so this is more of a theoretical objection- I think I might well class that as a nuisance, I hate software that "looks after my best interests" :mad:

Unless it can be turned off, of course.
Considering in general how much of a security risk Java is, and that many people turn it off in their browsers unless they need it, I think its a great idea for those that need Java, I have yet to need to run a java applet in my browser, unless its BT and I wont install Java just for that. Software that may help stop you getting a Trojan I think is a good thing.  ::) I also believe Snow Leopard will not be supported after 10.8 is released in the summer, so to stay current you will probably have to update at some point to either Lion 10.7 or 10.8
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Apr 13, 2012, 11:43:00
Quote from: Gary on Apr 13, 2012, 11:36:48Software that may help stop you getting a Trojan I think is a good thing.  ::)

I wouldn't argue with that, but turning something off just because I haven't used it for a while is, for me, going too far!
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Apr 14, 2012, 10:55:49
Flashback Malware Removal Tool

http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1517
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on May 07, 2012, 20:23:53
iOS 5.1.1 released, bug fixes for iPad and iPhone.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Simon on May 07, 2012, 21:37:07
Just got it.  It downloaded and installed so quickly, I wasn't sure if it had worked, but iTunes reports the phone as being on 5.1.1, so guess it has.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on May 07, 2012, 22:32:33
Quote from: Simon on May 07, 2012, 21:37:07
Just got it.  It downloaded and installed so quickly, I wasn't sure if it had worked, but iTunes reports the phone as being on 5.1.1, so guess it has.
I did another OTA update. It was fast but they are delta updates not full ones, Itunes downloads the full OS. It was only a small fix anyway from the reports about it. Nothing special for iPhones really. I hope iOS 6 is a big improvement or phones like the Samsung SGIII will look more tempting even if it its Android.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on May 08, 2012, 09:49:18
OTA update was about 46mb, iTunes version over 700mb.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on May 10, 2012, 00:24:40
Updates for SL and Lion, and Safari now at 5.1.7 with a check for old Flash players and direct route to update, Lion now at 10.7.4 bug fixes gfx updates and probably the last update before 10.8
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on May 10, 2012, 00:40:03
Thanks a big security update for SL... 250-odd MB :o

All installed OK, thanks.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on May 15, 2012, 09:57:31
Seems older 24" iMacs are having issues with 10.7.4 as it modifies what screen resolution is available to tiny or huge. Looks like the new Mac range this year will sport retina screens  (maybe not iMacs but its possible) but 10.7.4 as added more High DPI elements as did 10.7.3 and its pretty much in the bag that 2012 iMacs will have USB 3 support with Ivy Bridge and the new chipset that now supports it without the need for third party controllers.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on May 15, 2012, 10:02:09
Thanks Gary I've not updated yet as it came out whilst I was away but I will bear it in mind before I update the iMac.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on May 15, 2012, 10:05:36
Quote from: Steve on May 15, 2012, 10:02:09
Thanks Gary I've not updated yet as it came out whilst I was away but I will bear it in mind before I update the iMac.
Many with some earlier iMacs ended up with a choice of 1920 x 1200 and 960 x 600 only, Steve. Its also caused problems with some Macbooks as well. Apple updates seem to be getting more and more buggy it seems  :( Saying that with Mountain Lion it all comes via the App Store as software update is being combined with that for 10.8
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Jun 12, 2012, 19:41:56
Lots of updates, iMovie, 1.01Gb, iPhoto 9.3, 599.65MB  (I believe for Lion 10.7.4 only as SL has been left out on this release) iTunes 10.6.3 at 170MB, Thunderbolt update software 1.2 so you can use it with a converter as a gigabit Ethernet  connector, Airport utility 6.1. So thats a nice slice of bandwidth  :P Beware the Thunderbolt update its causing some Macs to kernal panic and act a bit fruity in general.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Jun 12, 2012, 20:41:51
Thanks Gary . I guess I won't need the thunderbolt update though.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Jun 12, 2012, 21:08:25
Quote from: Steve on Jun 12, 2012, 20:41:51
Thanks Gary . I guess I won't need the thunderbolt update though.
Just thought I would mention it, Bill has two on his 27" doesn't he? I have one on my 21.5". I was looking at the price of a top spec Mac book Pro, £3000 + saying that a fully decked out Mac Pro with 4 512mb SSD's is £11k and it still has USB 2.0 :laugh:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Jun 13, 2012, 09:32:51
Quote from: Gary on Jun 12, 2012, 21:08:25
Just thought I would mention it, Bill has two on his 27" doesn't he?

Not that he's aware of :P

According to Wiki, Thunderbolt was introduced in Feb 2011 on the MacBook Pro, and my machines pre-date that.

It didn't show in the available (Snow Leopard) updates either.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Jun 13, 2012, 09:58:00
Quote from: Bill on Jun 13, 2012, 09:32:51
Not that he's aware of :P

According to Wiki, Thunderbolt was introduced in Feb 2011 on the MacBook Pro, and my machines pre-date that.

It didn't show in the available (Snow Leopard) updates either.
Sorry bill, I though you bought a new iMac 27" last year. Well you missed a whole bunch of trouble as the update was only meant for macbooks and the new silly priced retina jobby which have no ethernet ports, so iMacs etc crashed got stuck in loops etc, it cause merry hell. Apple really are not on the ball with updates lately. Seems 'i' devices are more important than desktops  :eyebrow: My imac was August 2011 so has a thunderbolt port.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Jun 13, 2012, 10:06:59
I bought the 27" iMac the previous year (2010), time flies... we're both a year older than you thought we were :P

Re the updates etc, I must admit that I've yet to see anything to persuade me that moving from SL to Lion would have been a good idea...
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Technical Ben on Jun 13, 2012, 16:33:26
"512mb SSDs". Wow, that's optimistic. ;)  :laugh:
I remember when  my biggest memory car was around 64mb. :P
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Simon on Jun 13, 2012, 16:35:00
Quote from: Technical Ben on Jun 13, 2012, 16:33:26I remember when  my biggest memory car was around 64mb. :P

How many miles to the gallon did it do?  :)x
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Rik on Jun 13, 2012, 16:37:14
About the same as your phone. :evil: :out:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Simon on Jun 13, 2012, 16:40:35
I don't throw them any more.  :nana:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Jun 13, 2012, 16:57:23
Quote from: Technical Ben on Jun 13, 2012, 16:33:26
"512mb SSDs". Wow, that's optimistic. ;)  :laugh:
I remember when  my biggest memory car was around 64mb. :P
I know I know its 512GB ones, I only had an hours sleep and that's my excuse and I'm sticking to it  ;D
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Jun 13, 2012, 16:59:43
Quote from: Simon on Jun 13, 2012, 16:40:35
I don't throw them any more.  :nana:
My 4S gets three days standby with 6-7 hours or various usage and thats with wifi on 24/7
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Jun 13, 2012, 17:26:09
Java update (for Snow Leopard only afaik):

QuoteJava for Mac OS X 10.6 Update 9 delivers improved security, reliability, and compatibility by updating Java SE 6 to 1.6.0_33.

This update configures web browsers to not automatically run Java applets. Java applets may be re-enabled by clicking the region labeled "Inactive plug-in" on a web page. If no applets have been run for an extended period of time, the Java web plug-in will deactivate.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Jun 13, 2012, 17:29:43
Same for Lion, not that I have java installed. Saying that next month its going to be Mountain Lion. Update looks like it will be very cheap, for both SL and Lion
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: lozcart on Jun 13, 2012, 20:18:02
Quote from: Gary on Jun 13, 2012, 17:29:43
Update looks like it will be very cheap

£13.99 and I think that includes updating any Macs you own, sounds like a good deal to me
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Jun 14, 2012, 00:11:36
Quote from: lozcart on Jun 13, 2012, 20:18:02
£13.99 and I think that includes updating any Macs you own, sounds like a good deal to me
I do wonder about the future of the desktop Mac though. The Mac pro is said to be getting updates in 2013, the small bump it got this week is old tech, in fact you are paying full price for what two-three year old hardware really, and still with USB 2. The iMac has not been updated in 400 days now, so Apples profit margin must be huge off each sale as that tech is old, forget about Apple tax. It does come to mind that they want people to use laptops, iPads and iPhones and leave the desktop behind maybe  :-\  Even the new Retina Mac has a relatively small Flash drive really not suitable for professional usage and at a huge price and many people still dont trust the reliance on the iCloud world that Apple want us to use. Apple have a way of pushing people where they want them and I'm still unsure of the direction, and future now with Cook in charge.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Jun 14, 2012, 00:34:59
Quote from: Gary on Jun 14, 2012, 00:11:36Apple have a way of pushing people where they want them and I'm still unsure of the direction, and future now with Cook in charge.

Agreed... I'm having some thoughts about looking for a version of Linux that will run on iMac hardware.

But tbh I can't see the desktop disappearing completely, though it might well go to a niche market. Some applications (especially video processing of any serious sort) demand big screens, fast processors. huge HDDs and vast amounts of RAM... rather defeats the object to put that lot into a laptop :dunno:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Jun 14, 2012, 08:12:38
Quote from: Bill on Jun 14, 2012, 00:34:59
Agreed... I'm having some thoughts about looking for a version of Linux that will run on iMac hardware.

But tbh I can't see the desktop disappearing completely, though it might well go to a niche market. Some applications (especially video processing of any serious sort) demand big screens, fast processors. huge HDDs and vast amounts of RAM... rather defeats the object to put that lot into a laptop :dunno:
I agree bill, I guess thats why it was said the Mac Pro would get a proper update in 2013, right now though if I needed a new machine with that much power, well it woulkd not be a Mac Pro sadly. To much money for very old tech, which will only drive professionals away I would imagine who want the latest Ivy Bridge Zeons with USB3 and thunderbolt.  :-\
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Technical Ben on Jun 14, 2012, 09:43:09
Quote from: Gary on Jun 13, 2012, 16:57:23
I know I know its 512GB ones, I only had an hours sleep and that's my excuse and I'm sticking to it  ;D

That's ok. Looks like everyone got me on the dropping of a letter too. :P
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Rik on Jun 14, 2012, 09:49:47
Always a dangerous thing to do around here, Ben.  ;D
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Jun 16, 2012, 08:32:43
Firefox 13.0.1 released to sort out a Flash 11.3 crash bug (I think)
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Jun 16, 2012, 10:12:37
Thanks Gary. :thumb:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Jul 12, 2012, 22:44:11
iPhoto 9.3.1 fixes bugs and possible hangs.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Jul 13, 2012, 06:26:27
All 630MB of it.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Jul 13, 2012, 08:51:06
Quote from: Steve on Jul 13, 2012, 06:26:27
All 630MB of it.
Only 43mb for me as I had 9.3 already  :)
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Jul 13, 2012, 10:02:42
So did I,how strange.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Jul 13, 2012, 10:22:34
Quote from: Steve on Jul 13, 2012, 10:02:42
So did I,how strange.
Thats odd  :-\ weird. Was yours via the app store?
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Jul 13, 2012, 11:43:30
No vía software update, just checked the install log and 9.3 was installed in June.  :dunno:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Jul 13, 2012, 12:46:40
Quote from: Steve on Jul 13, 2012, 11:43:30
No vía software update, just checked the install log and 9.3 was installed in June.  :dunno:
Mine came via the app store as an update, maybe that's the difference as they offer more incremental updates  :dunno: odd.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Jul 25, 2012, 17:16:08
Safari 6 released (ugly huge tab if you use tabs also cannot see how to empty cache now) updates to iMovie, iPhoto and pages (Pages is now much faster at loading) all for Mountain Lion compatibility and bug fixes etc.

Edit: Safari 6 seems at this time to be for lion and Mountain Lion (has more features in the latter) its not available for SL at this time and may well not be.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Jul 25, 2012, 17:56:41
Thanks Gary
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Jul 25, 2012, 18:03:55
Quote from: Steve on Jul 25, 2012, 17:56:41
Thanks Gary
There was one more but it eludes me now, nothing huge though. Core services change type update  :P
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Jul 25, 2012, 18:24:59
I think I'll leave those until off peak.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Jul 25, 2012, 18:34:45
Quote from: Steve on Jul 25, 2012, 18:24:59
I think I'll leave those until off peak.
The biggest update I had was 130mb (iPhoto) Steve. The rest were small updates like last time from the app store. Safari was not very big either.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Jul 25, 2012, 18:41:07
Perhaps I'll have a peep once the mountain's been climbed . I'm going to the pub this is an unattended install of an OS. ;D Try that with ....... :whistle:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Glenn on Jul 25, 2012, 19:33:09
I do it everyday at work, just press F12 select the version, then wait.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Jul 26, 2012, 19:18:20
Flash player 11.3.300.268 released
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Jul 26, 2012, 19:29:34
 :thumb:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Stevescat on Jul 27, 2012, 08:41:47
On a Mountain Lion negative, what a truly dumbfounding decision to NOT show the file size in software updates until you've clicked the update button - priceless! How on earth would anyone make a change like that?!? :dunno:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Jul 27, 2012, 09:04:05
Quote from: Stevescat on Jul 27, 2012, 08:41:47
On a Mountain Lion negative, what a truly dumbfounding decision to NOT show the file size in software updates until you've clicked the update button - priceless! How on earth would anyone make a change like that?!? :dunno:
Not had to do any updates yet, did them all before installing, one for the Apple suggestion box.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Aug 23, 2012, 16:35:48
Mountain Lion 10.8.1 released, bug fixes weighing in at  24.2mb, for me it came in at 7.2mb, could do with more like that.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Aug 23, 2012, 17:12:57
Thanks Gary, the MBP seems to have upgraded ok.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Aug 23, 2012, 20:01:41
So far so good on my iMac, Steve.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Sep 05, 2012, 22:06:34
iMove 9.0.8 released Sorts a bug with quicktime components that could prevent iMovie opening, a breeze at 1.35Gb.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Sep 06, 2012, 08:42:46
Oh and some java stuff  ;D
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Sep 14, 2012, 15:51:42
iTunes 10.7 including windows version - support for iOS 6 new ipod and nano
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Simon on Sep 14, 2012, 17:38:05
Yup, just got that.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Ray on Sep 16, 2012, 15:35:34
Quote from: Steve on Sep 14, 2012, 15:51:42
iTunes 10.7 including windows version - support for iOS 6 new ipod and nano

Anyone having problems accessing the Itunes store with this version? I've got it installed on my WHS2011 and a Windows 7 mc, on the server it starts accessing Itunes store and then the program just shuts down, on the Win 7 mc it gets about 90% of the way to access then comes up with error saying Itunes has stopped working and shuts down. :dunno:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: zappaDPJ on Sep 16, 2012, 15:43:01
I seem to be able to access the store OK Ray but this version of iTunes seems to stop responding after boot up although it does eventually start working again.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Ray on Sep 16, 2012, 15:46:49
Strange I still can't, Zap, but I can from my Ipod Touch. ???
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Rik on Sep 16, 2012, 16:41:54
Maybe I'll wait to update. :)
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: pctech on Sep 16, 2012, 17:27:56
Itunes stable on Win 7 64 Pro

Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Sep 17, 2012, 11:42:03
Working fine on my Mac.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Sep 19, 2012, 19:05:39
10.8.2 out , 356mb for me!

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5460
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Sep 19, 2012, 19:23:47
Not long to  download but it took it seemed an age to install, but all appears well.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Sep 19, 2012, 21:51:20
Update for iPhoto as well to 9.4
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Sep 19, 2012, 22:10:42
Yep just got that.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Sep 19, 2012, 22:32:19
Quote from: Steve on Sep 19, 2012, 22:10:42
Yep just got that.
After I rebooted from the update to 10.8.2 I had a password keychain permission for software update as well.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Ardua on Sep 20, 2012, 08:54:20
Deleted:  Missed earlier post about this.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Sep 20, 2012, 09:00:19
I didn't see much of an iOS effect last night on LINX or LONAP stats compared to the 5 release. I've done 3 machines this morning without any issues.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Oct 27, 2012, 09:46:22
Firefox 16.0.2 released, security update.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Oct 27, 2012, 12:43:22
Thanks Gary.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Nov 02, 2012, 08:12:49
iPhoto 9.4.2 released and also Safari 6.0.2 There is a problem with downloading the Safari security update at this time for some using Mountain Lion. The Safari 6.0.2 direct download can be found here on the Apple help forums here https://discussions.apple.com/message/20188714#20188714
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Nov 02, 2012, 08:15:52
Thanks Gary :thumb:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Nov 10, 2012, 17:19:29
Flash player 11.5.502.110 is out and about, bug and security fixes as usual.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Nov 10, 2012, 17:26:16
Thanks Gary, I think I picked that up a couple of days ago.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Nov 10, 2012, 17:31:27
Quote from: Steve on Nov 10, 2012, 17:26:16
Thanks Gary, I think I picked that up a couple of days ago.
It came out a few days back, Steve. Since Flash I think checks weekly on OS X I thought I should post it just in case.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Nov 10, 2012, 17:33:00
After some recent fun and games (memory and CPU utilisation issues) I'm beginning to think that a more useful download might be the Flash uninstaller...
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Nov 10, 2012, 17:37:09
I've not had trouble with flash lately, I wonder whether it depends on the browser used.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Nov 10, 2012, 17:44:18
Nor have I Steve, I think going from say 11.4 to 11.5 using the uninstaller before updating is a good idea hough after all the previous patches.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Nov 21, 2012, 08:52:52
Firefox 17 released, security updates bug fixes and a new Social API for Facebook (disabled its opt in only)
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Nov 21, 2012, 09:10:39
Thanks Gary  :thumb:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Simon on Nov 21, 2012, 11:50:03
Makes a change for something to be opt in.  ::)
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Nov 21, 2012, 20:30:08
Quote from: Simon on Nov 21, 2012, 11:50:03
Makes a change for something to be opt in.  ::)
Its disabled by default Simon, Mozilla seem pretty good about that. I Wish the junk that came though my door today was opt in, tried opting out and it still comes  >:(
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Dec 01, 2012, 08:16:31
Well I never, its Firefox 17.0.1 (bug fix for blurry font on Windows, an issue with cleartype, and some thing that bugs skype, but what doesn't)
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Dec 04, 2012, 22:01:50
iWorks 9.3 released.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Dec 04, 2012, 22:10:50
 :thumb:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Dec 13, 2012, 11:36:43
Flash player 11.5.502.136 is out for OS X  (came out a few days back but though I would post it)
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Dec 13, 2012, 23:37:36
iTunes 11.0.1 and Raw compatibility update 4.0.3 released.

Bug fixes in iTunes 11.0.1 : This update to the new iTunes addresses an issue where new purchases in iCloud may not appear in your library if iTunes Match is turned on, makes iTunes more responsive when searching a large library, fixes a problem where the AirPlay button may not appear as expected, and adds the ability to display duplicate items within your library.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Niall on Dec 13, 2012, 23:48:25
Does it stop it sucking, and having to restart it to get back to the main page NOT the main store page?

Sweet, it does! Clicking the library button now returns me to the main menu. Before you clicked it and nothing happened. The preview panel works now too, whereas before it just opened an empty bubble.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Dec 14, 2012, 00:34:42
Quote from: Niall on Dec 13, 2012, 23:48:25
Does it stop it sucking, and having to restart it to get back to the main page NOT the main store page?

Sweet, it does! Clicking the library button now returns me to the main menu. Before you clicked it and nothing happened. The preview panel works now too, whereas before it just opened an empty bubble.
Never had those problems on my OS X version those issues you had never occurred for me, maybe it was a bad install?   :dunno:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Simon on Dec 14, 2012, 10:14:42
It will open on the last 'page' it closed at, so if you want it to open on your Albums page, make sure it's on that page when you close it or shut down the PC.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Niall on Dec 14, 2012, 14:08:21
That's not how it works for me. It opens on the app page, no matter what I'm doing when I close it :)
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Feb 07, 2013, 20:51:45
AirPort Base Station and Time Capsule Firmware Update 7.6.3 and Airport Utility 6.2 for Mac released.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Feb 07, 2013, 21:03:47
Thanks Gary  :thumb:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Feb 07, 2013, 21:15:57
Also Digital Camera RAW Compatibility Update 4.04  :)
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Mar 12, 2013, 10:06:11
Flash Player 11.6.602.180 released, more of the same  ::)
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Mar 12, 2013, 10:16:15
May be OS-version specific, it's saying my Snow Leopard is up to date with 11.6.602.171 installed.

Or maybe Adobe's "Check for Updates" in SysPrefs hasn't caught up yet :P
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Mar 12, 2013, 10:20:13
Quote from: Bill on Mar 12, 2013, 10:16:15
May be OS-version specific, it's saying my Snow Leopard is up to date with 11.6.602.171 installed.

Or maybe Adobe's "Check for Updates" in SysPrefs hasn't caught up yet :P
Its only just come out, the auto update can take a few days sometimes to get the new version, I just downloaded and installed from Adobes site if I see its been updated, 11.6.602.800 is the latest for OS X as of this morning. Better to play safe with Flash.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Mar 12, 2013, 10:27:52
Quote from: Gary on Mar 12, 2013, 10:20:13Better to play safe with Flash.

I wouldn't argue with that in general, but I cba'd.

I run an adblocker in Safari and only use Flash for ClassicFM's internet radio player.

If it wasn't for that I'd ditch it.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Mar 12, 2013, 10:32:20
Quote from: Bill on Mar 12, 2013, 10:27:52
I wouldn't argue with that in general, but I cba'd.

I run an adblocker in Safari and only use Flash for ClassicFM's internet radio player.

If it wasn't for that I'd ditch it.
I run an adblocker too but since the last flash player exploit was cross platform and could get OS X as easily as windows with no use interaction I always update in a timely manner, it only takes a couple of minutes to update but could take seconds to get hit by a nasty security hole  :( I hate flash.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Mar 12, 2013, 19:52:14
Installed it (via the update) about half an hour ago, it seems to have broken the ClassicFM player for that stream and dented it a bit for the other streams I listen to (very slow to start and exit).

Good old Adobe :slap:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Mar 12, 2013, 20:17:37
Quote from: Bill on Mar 12, 2013, 19:52:14
Installed it (via the update) about half an hour ago, it seems to have broken the ClassicFM player for that stream and dented it a bit for the other streams I listen to (very slow to start and exit).

Good old Adobe :slap:
ClasscFM playing ok here, Bill. Did you reboot after? It shouldn't need it but it helps.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Mar 12, 2013, 20:24:18
No, I didn't try a reboot... not convenient at the moment (iTunes and Folding@home running), but I'll give it a try later, cheers.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Mar 12, 2013, 21:42:04
Well a reboot didn't fix it... so I cleared history, caches, cookies etc, that didn't work either.

So I've uninstalled it. I'll see how I get on without it, it may or may not get re-installed in due course :P
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Mar 12, 2013, 21:48:17
Quote from: Bill on Mar 12, 2013, 21:42:04
Well a reboot didn't fix it... so I cleared history, caches, cookies etc, that didn't work either.

So I've uninstalled it. I'll see how I get on without it, it may or may not get re-installed in due course :P
Did you use the uninstaller from Adobe? That gets most of it. A reinstall may help, tbh come 10.9 I'm not using Flash anymore, sick of ll the updates and vulnerabilities.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Mar 12, 2013, 21:56:20
Yes, I used the one from Adobe, manually deleted the other folders as indicated and re-booted again just for luck.

I can use iPlayer for the BBC stations I listen to, and a DAB radio that's got just about acceptable reception for ClassicFM.

tbh I'm getting a bit bored with them, their playlist is a bit conservative compared to BBC3... not unreasonably for a commercial station I suppose.

Most speedtests won't run of course, but that's no great loss ;D
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Mar 12, 2013, 22:06:30
Considering how baly my lines flapping I hate speedtests  ;D At least the BBC are not using Real Player anymore  :eek4: On the flash front no issues with iPlayer or youtube Adobe have changed their installer yet again as well, its slower than the old one.  ::)
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Mar 13, 2013, 10:41:04
I've just updated Flash on the MacBook- exactly the same symptoms. Clearly there's something I use (and that you don't) that doesn't like ClassicFM :dunno:

Whatever it is, I'll have more reason for keeping it than keeping Flash so it can stay uninstalled (on the iMac). I'll leave it on the MacBook, then I can still run speedtests if I really need to.

I've re-jigged the audio side of things so the DAB radio goes into the iMac's "Line in", from there I can use Airfoil to stream it around the various Airplay speakers I've got. Slightly less convenient (I have to use the iMac, can't do it from the MacBook), but well outweighed by having a Flash-free computer ;D
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Mar 13, 2013, 11:47:09
It may be Safari, I tend to use Firefox more, Safari  is long over due for an update, last time was November for me with 10.8.2 and I have seen threads about issues with Flash on the Apple forums. Only other ting is have you disabled the adblocker for Classic FM? Stranger things have been known.  I have mine turned off for BBC website and associated iPlayer in case of conflicts. 
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Mar 13, 2013, 12:00:33
Quote from: Gary on Mar 13, 2013, 11:47:09Only other ting is have you disabled the adblocker for Classic FM?

No I haven't, but it's a very good idea! I'll try it next time I fire up the MacBook.

It was OK before the update, but I'd noticed that musicradio now detect when you connect to the ClassicFM stream and immediately play an ad for some bloody car insurance company... which guarantees they won't get my custom :mad:

It tells you to click the banner for more info (fat chance), but of course I don't get the banner. Have you had that?
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Mar 13, 2013, 12:51:37
Well that didn't work either... but you could be right, Safari may be at least part of the problem. I'm still on OS X10.6.8 (Safari 5.1.7), which may not help.

I noticed that when it decides to be very slow on disconnecting it sometimes wipes all the other tabs and the associated contents of the address bar, and you have to reload them from bookmarks or whatever.

No matter, I've decided that I can live without Flash.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Mar 13, 2013, 14:31:37
Quote from: Bill on Mar 13, 2013, 12:00:33
N
It tells you to click the banner for more info (fat chance), but of course I don't get the banner. Have you had that?
No banner here, Bill. Firefox 19.0.2 with adblockplus enabled and no issues. Also no issues with Safari 6.0.2  :dunno: Dont blame you about flash but I use youtube and there are still to many videos that wont run using HTML5 and when they do its actually more clunky that flash  :rant2:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Mar 14, 2013, 21:50:24
Not sure why Gary is complaining about a 249MB update to 10.8 (http://www.idnetters.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,30585.msg708819.html#msg708819), there's a security update for Snow Leopard out that weighs in at 330-oddMB :eek4:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Apr 16, 2013, 22:02:58
Safari 6.0.4 released and iPhoto updated as well.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Apr 16, 2013, 22:48:58
Thanks Gary :thumb:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Apr 17, 2013, 07:59:54
Not tried the Safari update yet but some control over the java plugin seems a better idea than permanently off or on.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Apr 17, 2013, 10:11:13
I dont have Java installed as I dont need it, but it seems a good idea for those that do. tbh the JRE should be ploughed into the ground forever as its such a hive of evil zero days. Oh and its iPhoto 9.4.4 I forgot that last night.

Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Apr 17, 2013, 10:13:36
Quote from: Bill on Mar 14, 2013, 21:50:24
Not sure why Gary is complaining about a 249MB update to 10.8 (http://www.idnetters.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,30585.msg708819.html#msg708819), there's a security update for Snow Leopard out that weighs in at 330-oddMB :eek4:
I was not moaning at all, Bill.  I was happy it was small, It just seemed odd for nearly 6 mths of betas that it was so tiny an update.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Apr 17, 2013, 15:43:55
Get the impression the next OS update could be late as don't they often bundle Safari in with it.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Apr 18, 2013, 11:22:27
Raw update 4.0.5 and it was iPhoto 9.4.3. To many numbers all at once. Apple tend to push out loads of updates at once then none for ages... their shared dropped below $400 today too.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Apr 18, 2013, 13:55:46
The Apple share price is looking like Apples in Autumn, but they have had a good run in more ways than one, innovation is not something any company can continue to repeat ie look at MS
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Glenn on Apr 18, 2013, 14:51:08
The share price has dropped by around $300 since it's peak, Exxon has become the No.1 company
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Apr 18, 2013, 16:39:23
Quote from: Steve on Apr 18, 2013, 13:55:46
The Apple share price is looking like Apples in Autumn, but they have had a good run in more ways than one, innovation is not something any company can continue to repeat ie look at MS
I would agree Steve, I don't see innovation this year with Samsung either, its small steps till the next bug thing in tech development, and the number of cores in your phones CPU is not that innovation. The G4 is a G3s really. Anyway competition is good for all, if they only stopped the dumb lawsuits for a while.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on May 11, 2013, 06:35:05
Thunderbolt firmware update available for (at least some) Macs.

Not sure if it's a cumulative update or whether the first run didn't "take", but I had to do it twice.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on May 11, 2013, 06:48:55
I've no Thunderbolt interfaces yet!
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on May 11, 2013, 07:45:10
Quote from: Bill on May 11, 2013, 06:35:05
Thunderbolt firmware update available for (at least some) Macs.

Not sure if it's a cumulative update or whether the first run didn't "take", but I had to do it twice.
Mine went first time, grey screen then a white screen and a grey line going along the bottom, bit odd its only for 10.8.3 or upwards though.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on May 11, 2013, 07:57:17
Quote from: Gary on May 11, 2013, 07:45:10bit odd its only for 10.8.3 or upwards though.

I assume it depends when you bought the Mac (ie which hardware you've got) rather than the OS in use. I don't get it for the MacBook, that's running 10.8.3 as well but doesn't have a Thunderbolt port.

@Steve- I might have a Thunderbolt port on the iMac, but that doesn't mean I've got anything to plug into it :P

(Not 100% true- it doubles as the DVI port for my second monitor)
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on May 11, 2013, 08:22:57
Well it is essentially a PCI Express and Display Port combined. ;D
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on May 11, 2013, 08:24:15
Quote from: Bill on May 11, 2013, 07:57:17
I assume it depends when you bought the Mac (ie which hardware you've got) rather than the OS in use. I don't get it for the MacBook, that's running 10.8.3 as well but doesn't have a Thunderbolt port.


I have a Thunderbolt port, you wont get the update unless you do, its just odd that a firmware update seems to be for 10.8.3 only when iMacs came with Thunderbolt ports before Mountain Lion was released which would mean someone on say Lion would not get the latest firmware update  :dunno:.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on May 11, 2013, 08:34:19
I think there were previous issues with Thunderbolt 1.2 last year on Lion, ie it broke, perhaps they've not fixed it therefore they're not getting it.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on May 11, 2013, 08:45:49
Quote from: Steve on May 11, 2013, 08:34:19
I think there were previous issues with Thunderbolt 1.2 last year on Lion, ie it broke, perhaps they've not fixed it therefore they're not getting it.
Makes sense, Steve. Not like Apple will tell anyone there is a problem of course  ;)
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on May 15, 2013, 07:22:10
iMovie 9.0.9 available.

Reducing the description to real-life language- bug fixes.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on May 16, 2013, 19:02:56
iTunes 11.0.3 released. improved Songs View and the ability to view multi-disc albums as a single album. The update also brings enhancements to the MiniPlayer, such as a new album artwork view and a progress bar. Also bug fixes
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on May 16, 2013, 19:28:48
Thanks Gary :thumb:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Simon on May 16, 2013, 19:42:49
The Songs view certainly needed improvement. 
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on May 16, 2013, 20:08:34
Not sure I like the new album artwork view on the mini-player... the ability to move and resize it independently on the old one was very useful, I found.

(edit- even if it didn't always stay where you put it!)

But the progress bar is a welcome return.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Simon on May 16, 2013, 21:31:08
As is the artwork in Song View.  :)
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on May 16, 2013, 23:05:17
I've only just discovered that the new artwork display seems to work in all list-type views, including smart playlists (which I use a lot)... so I'll agree- it's a definite "welcome back" ;D
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Simon on May 16, 2013, 23:13:33
I've found a silly thing, though.  When you go into the View > Column Browser menu, it falls off the bottom of my screen!  ::)
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on May 16, 2013, 23:17:41
Odd... it doesn't happen on my 27" monitor :evil:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Simon on May 16, 2013, 23:50:22
:nana:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on May 31, 2013, 08:40:48
Digital Camera RAW Compatibility Update 4.06
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on May 31, 2013, 09:02:39
 :thumb:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Jun 04, 2013, 23:42:03
OS X 10.8.4 released
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Jun 05, 2013, 05:52:50
Not tried it yet but  :thumb:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Jun 05, 2013, 07:09:36
Thanks Gary :thumb:

Details here about what it does:

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5730?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US

Only one (minor) issue that affects me (saving files over SMB) so I'll leave it for a bit.

No indication that they've put IPv4/IPv6 priorities back to where they should be, but then I don't think it was mentioned when they changed them the first time :mad:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Jun 05, 2013, 07:18:57
I imagine there are security updates with it, Safari goes to version 6.0.5 with the update so its probably worth downloading if you want to keep up to date. Working here ok. Considering even snow leopard got security updates as well as Lion I'm sure Mountain Lion did.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Jun 05, 2013, 09:22:17
I thought the IPv6 priorities just depended on which method was historically the quickest.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Jun 05, 2013, 09:37:12
They do now, but it's not what is supposed to happen- the recommended procedure if the OS detects a dual-stack site is to use IPv6.

To be fair, it's not just OS X- last time I ran a "health check" on my IPv6 connection I got this page:

http://test-ipv6.com/faq_avoids_ipv6.html

I don't mind it being the default behaviour, but lack of an option to force IPv6 priority makes it practically impossible to do some things with any certainty, such as an IPv6 speedtest on a dual-stack site such as tbb, the reason being that IPv4 is usually faster.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Jun 05, 2013, 21:19:41
iTunes 11.0.4, bug fixes.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Jun 10, 2013, 22:57:23
Airport utility 6.3
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Jun 19, 2013, 07:56:58
Java for Mac OS X 10.6 Update 16, if you use java.  A huge number of security fixes, according to the reg about 40 in all  :shake:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Jun 19, 2013, 09:01:53
 :thumb:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Jun 28, 2013, 16:42:10
Raw update 4.0.7 Canon inkjet printer drivers 2.1.2
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Jun 28, 2013, 16:52:04
 :thumb:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Jul 02, 2013, 21:38:41
Security update 2013-003 for mountain Lion, and Lion Details here http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1222
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Jul 02, 2013, 21:48:53
 :thumb:

The SL machine will have to wait, I've just started about 18 hours worth of video processing, typical :dunno:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Jul 02, 2013, 22:02:17
Quote from: Bill on Jul 02, 2013, 21:48:53
:thumb:

The SL machine will have to wait, I've just started about 18 hours worth of video processing, typical :dunno:
Seems to be for Mountain Lion and Lion now, bit of confusion earlier on download page, but its on software update. http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1222
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Jul 02, 2013, 22:13:35
Quote from: Gary on Jul 02, 2013, 22:02:17
Seems to be for Mountain Lion and Lion now, bit of confusion earlier on download page, but its on software update. http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1222

Ta for that, I'll see what it says tomorrow night- they should have got their knickers untwisted by then :P
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Jul 02, 2013, 23:47:41
Quote from: Bill on Jul 02, 2013, 22:13:35
Ta for that, I'll see what it says tomorrow night- they should have got their knickers untwisted by then :P
It is for Snow leopard too, its on the download page again now.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Jul 09, 2013, 12:27:03
Flash player 11.8.800.94 released security and bug fixes, possibly improvements.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Simon on Jul 09, 2013, 12:50:37
Why can't they just call it 12 and be done with it!  ;D
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Jul 09, 2013, 13:52:34
Interesting... I've got 11.7.700.225 installed and an update check from sysprefs says it's the latest version :dunno:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Jul 09, 2013, 15:13:44
Quote from: Bill on Jul 09, 2013, 13:52:34
Interesting... I've got 11.7.700.225 installed and an update check from sysprefs says it's the latest version :dunno:
New versions take longer to propagate, Bill also these are not in the background ones, they ask you from what I can remember. I just installed it as I was nosing around the adobe site and saw it. . http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/?promoid=DAFYL
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Jul 09, 2013, 16:29:01
Ah right, cheers. I'll leave it until it shows on a sysprefs check, being bone idle I find it less hassle that way :P
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Jul 09, 2013, 17:58:18
Quote from: Bill on Jul 09, 2013, 16:29:01
Ah right, cheers. I'll leave it until it shows on a sysprefs check, being bone idle I find it less hassle that way :P
I never use that, I prefer to update manually but I know what you mean.  ;)
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Jul 11, 2013, 21:46:33
Airport utility 6.3.1 released
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Jul 11, 2013, 22:13:42
 :thumb:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Aug 17, 2013, 08:02:27
iTunes 11.0.5 released, fixes issues with iCloud. Also Firmware update 7.6.4 for Airport base stations.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Aug 17, 2013, 08:10:37
 :thumb:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Aug 17, 2013, 08:13:38
 :thumb:

After the update, my AEX spent so long at the amber light stage I thought the update had bricked it, but it got there eventually :eek4:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Aug 17, 2013, 08:21:39
My first generation Time capsule complained similarly but got there in the end with the help of a reset.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Aug 17, 2013, 08:28:22
Mine didn't need the reset, but it took long enough for me to find where I'd put the manual and read the troubleshooting part!

Firmware updates always make me nervous...
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Aug 17, 2013, 14:01:17
Firefox 23.0.1 released, not sure whats been fixed yet  ::)
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Aug 17, 2013, 14:32:05
I wonder when they'll start using exponential notation for the version number... :P
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Aug 22, 2013, 22:02:40
Raw compatibility update 4.0.8 released
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Sep 10, 2013, 12:57:22
Flash player 11.8.800.168 is available on the download page as of now if anyone updates via just installing over the old version (no need to remove it on OS X anymore) Later today via auto update I imagine
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Simon on Sep 10, 2013, 13:14:32
I've had nothing but trouble with that version on Windows.  Keeps crashing.   :(
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Sep 12, 2013, 22:42:06
OSX 10.8.5 released along with Raw update 4.0.9
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Sep 12, 2013, 22:43:11
Just beat me to it  ;D - http://www.macrumors.com/2013/09/12/apple-releases-os-x-10-8-5-with-mail-fix-improvements-to-afp-file-transfer-performance/
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Sep 12, 2013, 22:45:41
 ;D
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Sep 13, 2013, 09:57:03
As Steve's link indicates, there's a couple of updates for Snow Leopard and Lion for those still using them (eg me, SL on one machine).

It wasn't until I was updating the last machine that I realised it was Friday 13th ( :eek4: ), but all went smoothly.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Sep 13, 2013, 11:19:58
I had started listing the updates then Gary beat me to it, so I thought sod it have the link to the rest. ;D
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Sep 13, 2013, 13:14:13
Looks like the updates well at least on 10.8.5 have sorted out the 'unicode of death on the Macs' still out there for iOS6 though, although iOS7 will cure that. I imagine they will have to patch iOS6 as not everyone will update straight away.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Sep 13, 2013, 13:16:47
Quote from: Simon on Sep 10, 2013, 13:14:32
I've had nothing but trouble with that version on Windows.  Keeps crashing.   :(
This one, Simon 11.8.800.168? thats only just come out, or was it 11.8.800.94? It could be your drivers as Flash uses hardware acceleration from your graphics card maybe?  ??? Flash causes people so many issues.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Sep 17, 2013, 16:09:47
Firefox 24 released, now supports Lion and Mountain Lion type scroll bars...better late than never.  ::) Bug Fixes Security updates and a few new things.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Sep 17, 2013, 16:14:00
I'm awaiting a totally different from Apple, tomorrow I think.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Sep 17, 2013, 16:23:34
Maybe the day after as I imagine servers could be overloaded, also sit back and watch the updates and see what happens first ;)
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Sep 17, 2013, 16:28:48
It's not long since the Europe's internet ground to a crawl with an iOS update although that was iOS 5 I think.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Sep 17, 2013, 16:33:28
I think so many people will try to update it could be a bit of a nightmare tbh, I remember that, not something I want to be part way though when it stops
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Simon on Sep 17, 2013, 16:40:15
I wonder if iOS7 can be made to look like iOS6, like I've made Windows 7 look like XP?  ;D
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Sep 17, 2013, 16:41:21
Philistine. ;D
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Simon on Sep 17, 2013, 16:45:03
;D
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Sep 17, 2013, 17:10:49
 :slap:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Sep 18, 2013, 10:07:43
So who's going to be brave and update to iOS 7 tonight? I am interested to see how the parallax effect will look etc, but the world and its dog will be trying to update I imagine and I can see things going wrong when servers stall.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Sep 18, 2013, 11:48:18
I may depending how quick it downloads.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Sep 18, 2013, 11:50:42
Quote from: Steve on Sep 18, 2013, 11:48:18
I may depending how quick it downloads.
I may update the iPad see how that goes. I have had so many app updates the last few days its ridiculous, but needed.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Simon on Sep 18, 2013, 11:59:11
For iOS6, I waited till about 10pm and all went without a hitch. 
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Sep 18, 2013, 12:06:35
May leave it till the morning, I'll do a over the air download anyway, see how it goes later.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: lozcart on Sep 18, 2013, 12:13:27
Quote from: Gary on Sep 18, 2013, 10:07:43
So who's going to be brave and update to iOS 7 tonight? I am interested to see how the parallax effect will look etc, but the world and its dog will be trying to update I imagine and I can see things going wrong when servers stall.

I will try the iPad first before my phone. I need my phone for work the following day so don't want to mess it up  :fingers:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Sep 18, 2013, 12:45:18
Quote from: lozcart on Sep 18, 2013, 12:13:27
I will try the iPad first before my phone. I need my phone for work the following day so don't want to mess it up  :fingers:
My phone is the important bit, like you may try iPad first.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: lozcart on Sep 18, 2013, 12:54:24
I should leave updating my phone until friday incase it goes wrong, in reality I will end up updating it tonight  :evil:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Sep 18, 2013, 14:10:09
My feelings precisely  ;D
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Sep 18, 2013, 14:14:30
My phone will wait till tomorrow, iPad tonight but later, even though I have backed up I want to be cautious.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: zappaDPJ on Sep 18, 2013, 15:27:14
Quote from: Gary on Sep 18, 2013, 10:07:43
So who's going to be brave and update to iOS 7 tonight? I am interested to see how the parallax effect will look etc, but the world and its dog will be trying to update I imagine and I can see things going wrong when servers stall.

Going by what I've read some of these effects are very processor intensive and may not be implemented on older phones such as the 4.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Sep 18, 2013, 19:43:34
iTunes 11.1 released leaves  a mess of permissions behind even after a clean up.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Sep 18, 2013, 22:01:05
Quote from: Gary on Sep 18, 2013, 19:43:34
iTunes 11.1 released leaves  a mess of permissions behind even after a clean up.

OS X's permissions are often a mess anyway, does it affect its running?

I'll leave it for a while anyway, all those IOS 7 downloads meant it took about 5 minutes just for the "Checking for updates" to complete- the iTunes update could take hours!
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Sep 18, 2013, 22:09:43
I thought permissions were supposed to left as is unless you had an issue?

Posted from iPad using iOS7
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Sep 18, 2013, 22:18:45
I assumed Gary was referring to the "Repair Permissions" in Disk Utility- any update usually results in loads of errors, most of which (allegedly) get corrected, but they soon come back again.

Not that it seems to make any difference either way :dunno:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Sep 18, 2013, 22:26:16
That's my impression,it's a waste of time unless you have an issue. If permissions are an issue you lose functionality at which point it's worth repairing.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Sep 18, 2013, 22:33:09
IIRC it's always been recommended to run "Repair Permissions" before (and after!) doing any sort of update and I always used to... but like you I found it didn't make any difference and I haven't bothered for a long while.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Sep 18, 2013, 23:21:04
Up to this update I had none of the pesky permissions that are supposed to be ok it was blank, clean slate since Lion. One update and I have dozens ahh well.  ::) I always run a permissions check after an update as some times you do get a few that are fixed, but not this time. Messy update.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Sep 18, 2013, 23:44:36
Quote from: Gary on Sep 18, 2013, 23:21:04
Up to this update I had none of the pesky permissions that are supposed to be ok it was blank, clean slate since Lion. One update and I have dozens ahh well.  ::) I always run a permissions check after an update as some times you do get a few that are fixed, but not this time. Messy update.

I skipped Lion and, I must confess, I've never checked on Mountain Lion... I've just tried a run and you're right- only 2 errors instead of dozens, both properly corrected. One lives and learns ;D

Apple clearly have a hankering for the old days :P


edit- one repair didn't take, Java plug-in file.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Sep 18, 2013, 23:52:19
Quote from: Bill on Sep 18, 2013, 23:44:36
I skipped Lion and, I must confess, I've never checked on Mountain Lion... I've just tried a run and you're right- only 2 errors instead of dozens, both properly corrected. One lives and learns ;D

Apple clearly have a hankering for the old days :P


edit- one repair didn't take, Java plug-in file.
have you updated to iTunes 11.1 yet bill. That leaves dozens. Lion came on my Mac so I suffered it till Mountain Lion
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Sep 18, 2013, 23:58:20
Quote from: Gary on Sep 18, 2013, 23:52:19
have you updated to iTunes 11.1 yet bill. That leaves dozens. Lion came on my Mac so I suffered it till Mountain Lion

Not yet- I'll wait until tomorrow when (hopefully) the IOS 7 rush has died down and I can get a decent d/l speed.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Sep 19, 2013, 10:22:22
Looks like the App Store is still busy... d/l should have taken less than 20 seconds, it actually took nearly 10 minutes :(

(edit- Showing on my BQMs too, bad timing on my part)

Installed smoothly enough, though I haven't explored it yet. I see what you mean about the mess of permissions, very shoddy work somewhere :shake:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Oct 03, 2013, 23:23:41
Mountain Lion 10.8.5 supplemental update, and iTunes 11.1.1 released.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Oct 04, 2013, 05:16:54
 :thumb:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Oct 04, 2013, 06:13:47
 :thumb:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Oct 04, 2013, 08:06:03
Quote from: Bill on Sep 19, 2013, 10:22:22
Looks like the App Store is still busy... d/l should have taken less than 20 seconds, it actually took nearly 10 minutes :(

(edit- Showing on my BQMs too, bad timing on my part)

Installed smoothly enough, though I haven't explored it yet. I see what you mean about the mess of permissions, very shoddy work somewhere :shake:
11.1.1 does not make permissions any better, nor did the supplemental update. Guess that wont get fixed to OS X Maverick. (cant stand the name)
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Oct 08, 2013, 11:10:38
For manual downloader types, Flash player 11.9.900.117 is up on the Adobe site. Just install over the old version.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Oct 16, 2013, 09:10:19
Java OS X update 2013-005 for Mountain lion and Lion and update 17 for 10.6 has been released.

Java for OS X 2013-005 delivers improved security, reliability, and compatibility by updating Java SE 6 to 1.6.0_65.

On systems that have not already installed Java for OS X 2012-006, this update disables the Java SE 6 applet plug-in. To use applets on a web page, click on the region labeled "Missing plug-in" to download the latest version of the Java applet plug-in from Oracle.

Please quit any Java applications before installing this update.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Oct 16, 2013, 09:58:35
 :thumb:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Oct 16, 2013, 12:13:43
 :thumb:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Oct 22, 2013, 18:25:23
OS X Mavericks is free and available today.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Oct 22, 2013, 18:51:37
New versions of iLife and iWorks available today, I'm assuming free to new Macs and iOS devices but at a cost as an upgrade.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Oct 22, 2013, 19:00:27
20 new app updates today, collaboration with iWorks and cloud based iWorks beta.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Oct 22, 2013, 19:23:48
The iPad Air looks quite an update.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Simon on Oct 22, 2013, 19:50:58
So, is that the 5 or is there a 5 as well?
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Oct 22, 2013, 19:56:27
No iPad 5 - new models are the iPad Air and the iPad mini with retina display, interestingly the iPad 2 will still be available as a cheaper full size iPad.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Simon on Oct 22, 2013, 20:09:50
Yes, just been reading. The Air certainly looks a nice bit of kit.  Might even get one myself.  I thought that I read though, that they were discontinuing the iPad 2.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Oct 22, 2013, 20:12:28
That bezel edge will be damaged very easily, the iPhone 5 and 5s both were very easy to damage also anodising will wear off same as the iPhones. I like its thinner and lighter though. My iPad 4 will be ok for another year I think somehow.  ;) As for Mavericks I'll watch and wait. ML works fine as is for now.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: zappaDPJ on Oct 22, 2013, 20:15:28
I'm a bit disappointed at the cost of the iPad Air. It won't stop me buying one (32/64 GB + cellular £579/£659) but I was hoping for something a little less pricey. That said the move towards including some rather good free apps is a bonus.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Oct 22, 2013, 20:25:40
Mavericks download is 5.29Gb we'll see what it looks like.  The iPad 2 and the iPad mini I  believe are still current models with the iPad Air and the iPad mini with retina display.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Oct 22, 2013, 20:27:18
Safari 6.1 for ML
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Simon on Oct 22, 2013, 22:02:05
Quote from: Gary on Oct 22, 2013, 20:12:28
That bezel edge will be damaged very easily, the iPhone 5 and 5s both were very easy to damage also anodising will wear off same as the iPhones. I like its thinner and lighter though. My iPad 4 will be ok for another year I think somehow.  ;) As for Mavericks I'll watch and wait. ML works fine as is for now.

It's 'thinner and lighter' that bothers me - will that equate to being delicate and flimsy?
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Oct 23, 2013, 06:30:33
I wonder whether this Mavericks install is the longest ever, left the MBP working overnight but did part close the lid, woke up with it stating 4 minutes left I guess it must have gone to sleep as well. Although I was worried that it might have stalled but it's still plodding along. It's managed to reboot and states completing the installation so it's  :fingers:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Oct 23, 2013, 07:13:03
Blood hell, 30 mins later with the scroll bar saying 1 minute left to complete it's finally finished. Perhaps I should have done a clean install,now I've got another 5Gb of download to update the apps which seem to be free ie iWork and iLife. I did think I might have to pay but seems that's not the case but possibly as a previous owner their free as well.

If I learned anything it's don't give up on it, the temptation to turn it off was great.

looks like Garageband is free as well and I've never purchased that before.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: zappaDPJ on Oct 23, 2013, 09:21:54
GarageBand's new feature, Drummer, is really quite impressive. It was announced yesterday that Apple are no longer charging for a lot of software including updated operating systems and some of their more major apps.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Oct 23, 2013, 10:39:23
Whilst as an existing user it wasn't clear to me whether the App upgrades would be free, but good news nevertheless. An updated OS with new memory,video and power saving features plus the whole desktop suite of iWorks and iLife updated for nothing unless of course the 10Gb download on my other machines takes me over my monthly allowance. One disadvantage of the App Store is the absence of the original install file to copy across to my other machines , I did however save the OS install file before installation so at least that can be copied across.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Oct 23, 2013, 10:51:45
Quote from: Steve on Oct 23, 2013, 10:39:23One disadvantage of the App Store is the absence of the original install file to copy across to my other machines , I did however save the OS install file before installation so at least that can be copied across.

Not sure that will help, but this might (http://9to5mac.com/2013/06/13/how-to-create-a-bootable-os-x-mavericks-usb-flash-drive-from-original-app-store-package/).
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Oct 23, 2013, 10:58:48
I think as long as I'm not doing a clean install I'm hoping the the 5.2Gb file DL file will work when copied across,I'll find out later. Otherwise as you indicated Bill it's  via USB flash but I seem to recall it worked with ML. I've three more machines to do and it would be nice not to waste 15Gb of download bandwidth.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Simon on Oct 23, 2013, 11:35:48
Working on the old adage that nothing in life is free, I wonder how they'll make their money back for the software?
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Oct 23, 2013, 11:44:47
I think looking at hardware sales for both PCs and Macs, I look at as a gimmick in some ways however in reality if you do buy a Mac provided you don't need any of the professional software there is nothing else required in software terms.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Oct 23, 2013, 11:46:04
Quote from: Steve on Oct 22, 2013, 20:27:18
Safari 6.1 for ML

Both 6.1 for ML and 7.0 for Mavericks seem much quicker than the previous version
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Oct 23, 2013, 11:55:53
Quote from: Steve on Oct 22, 2013, 20:27:18
Safari 6.1 for ML

Also iTunes 11.1.2 and Remote Desktop Client 3.7.0, presumably both for ML.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Oct 23, 2013, 12:05:24
Not sure what versions I've got but 11.1.2 is Mavericks compatible and I updated RDP this am

What I did miss last night was iOS 7.0.3 another 68mb to download
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Oct 23, 2013, 12:28:38
When I looked last night the store just showed the Safari update, today it's a semi-combined one with all three. About 150MB.

There's also a bit at the bottom which I've never noticed before- "Show incompatible app updates". Lists iPhoto 9.5 and iMovie 10.0 with the comment "Requires OS X 10.9", no doubt a hint to upgrade the OS :P
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Oct 23, 2013, 13:11:50
I suppose the latter maybe useful if it saves me visiting the App Store for every device.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Oct 23, 2013, 19:05:23
Well I went for it, Mavericks what a load of rubbish, its buggy as hell, slow, and stalls on shutdown. Time machine animation is gone, in fact time machine external drives on my iMac stay yellow like a standard drive till there is a backup then it turns green with time machine icon and that can take an hour. Apps take longer to open, lots of pin wheels doing relatively small tasks (clean install) and now Apple have taken away the ability not to use iCloud to sync calendars contacts for iPhone/iPad. Its icloud or nothing!  :mad: Looks like its back to ML via clean install when the internet is fast enough to use since the great slowdown today  >:(
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Simon on Oct 23, 2013, 19:29:55
Core!  The Apples are going rotten!  :D
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Oct 23, 2013, 19:32:25
Anyone using Gmail (http://www.tuaw.com/2013/10/23/how-mavericks-ruined-apple-mail-for-gmail-users/)?
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Oct 23, 2013, 20:40:04
I could do with a copy of Mountain Lion I wonder where I'll find one, my Chord USB DAC will not run on Mavericks  .  Unless I can use time machine.

@Gary you broke your habits you should have waited for a couple of updates
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Oct 23, 2013, 21:22:55
Quote from: Steve on Oct 23, 2013, 20:40:04

@Gary you broke your habits you should have waited for a couple of updates
I was bored, and tbh Mountain Lion was less buggy  ::) Apple QC is really going down hill, I can see why Mavericks is free!
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Oct 23, 2013, 21:23:31
Quote from: Simon on Oct 23, 2013, 19:29:55
Core!  The Apples are going rotten!  :D
:groan:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Oct 23, 2013, 21:32:25
My Mac Mini music server is going back to ML right now, at least Command + R and a Time Machine restore from this morning should work or I hope so. ;D
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Oct 23, 2013, 21:33:29
Quote from: Steve on Oct 23, 2013, 21:32:25
My Mac Mini music server is going back to ML right now, at least Command + R and a Time Machine restore from this morning should work or I hope so. ;D
Mines going back tomorrow well hopefully if we have any throughput ;D
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Oct 23, 2013, 21:44:07
I don't need an Internet connection to go back to ML, I should be as I was at 06:30 in 10 minutes time, my music server is just an OS install with the music on a separate Firewire drive
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Oct 23, 2013, 21:51:42
Quote from: Steve on Oct 23, 2013, 21:44:07
I don't need an Internet connection to go back to ML, I should be as I was at 06:30 in 10 minutes time, my music server is just an OS install with the music on a separate Firewire drive
After all this mucking about I'm going for a clean install back. I find time machine backups are never great, ML also had a bad bug where they didnt all work  ::) Pondini (rip) was working on what was the cause. Also it occupies a few hours  ;D
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Oct 23, 2013, 23:03:54
Well perhaps I was lucky but the Mac Mini is now back to ML and my DAC is working again, only 17Gb restore so didn't take long at all. It looks and works just like it did this morning.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Oct 24, 2013, 07:14:58
What I tried to do last night was download ML from Apple App Store> previous purchases. I was unsuccessful I guess it can be found elsewhere if required but the restore is looking good.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Oct 24, 2013, 07:52:07
Quote from: Steve on Oct 24, 2013, 07:14:58
What I tried to do last night was download ML from Apple App Store> previous purchases. I was unsuccessful I guess it can be found elsewhere if required but the restore is looking good.
Glad it worked, Steve.  :thumb: I might ride Mavericks out, after a day it seems to have bedded in a bit. Hopefully a 10.9.1 will make things better. Still angry I'm forced to use iCloud when I really don't want to though.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Oct 24, 2013, 14:01:35
Mavericks on the MBP seems fine so far touch wood. Just waiting for Chord Electronics to decide why their DAC won't play with Mavericks. There's a few DACs that needs specific drivers both in Windows and OS X , it will be a generic driver somewhere  in the component list that needs an update.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Oct 25, 2013, 09:19:21
Well my iMac no longer sleeps under OS X  10.9   :mad: I'm not the only one either, seems the human interface process stops it. How did these get past testers, even latest iMacs are doing it with fusion drives  :shake:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Oct 25, 2013, 09:51:37
I think when you intend to bring out all those updates on the same day, it does not surprise me that all is not well. My iMac does sleep but it's 2009 vintage. The MBP has been fine,I did have to log out and log in to iCloud to get the new iCloud features to work correctly.

The Mac mini is staying on ML for the foreseeable future, the 2008 MacBook is loading Mavericks today and possibly tomorrow >:D
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: RogerP on Oct 25, 2013, 12:28:10
Hi all

Just been in a conversation with Apple re Maverick, my download speed is so poor it cannot cope with Mavericks, Quote Apple.!!!

Does anyone have a copy of Mavericks file on a bootable USB key that I could borrow to do the update to my laptop which I will obviously return asap.

Any help would be appreciated

Thanks

Rogerp
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Oct 25, 2013, 13:19:45
I'll have a look this weekend I may be able to upload it somewhere, it's 5.2Gb
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Lance on Oct 25, 2013, 23:09:45
Steve, I can put it on my server if you want? Have you got a link to it from Apple which I can download rather than you needing to upload?
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Oct 25, 2013, 23:13:51
It's only available by the Apple Apps store, it's just that I saved a copied before I installed it.


Edit: I wonder why Mediafire,Google Drive and Box don't want to know, I wonder if Apple's done something to prevent distribution
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Oct 26, 2013, 17:03:02
Whats more annoying is my external drive wont sleep now when it did before even if I force my mac into sleep it by clicking on the setting, and then it takes ages to do it, as it does not obey the energy saving settings. More and more disheartened with Apple as time goes on I have to admit. If the Xperia Z1 I bought had not been so buggy (and huge) I would have kept it. I'm starting to feel that updates to hardware make sod all difference as I never notice the speed bumps, QC is getting worse and Apples deny all attitude just stinks. Samsung and the rest are no better, its all about getting the card out of you wallet every year or two it seems for a bunch of features no one needs, but in Apples case force you to use. like no syncing between iTunes and the iPhone any more with contacts and calendars, its iCloud or nothing.  >:(
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Oct 26, 2013, 17:23:06
Perhaps it's time you moved to Windows 8 Gary. I'll stay where are am for the time being until someone brings out a family of products that work seamlessly with each other but then again I've never been worried about iCloud either. ITunes is a good music player I use it every day but I don't let my phone or iPad anywhere near it.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Oct 26, 2013, 18:03:51
Quote from: Steve on Oct 26, 2013, 17:23:06
I'll stay where are am for the time being until someone brings out a family of products that work seamlessly with each
Thing is that isn't the case in mavericks at this time as you mentioned though, Steve. Also I don't need devices to do that anyway. I wont go back to windows, I may go back to real life, the way it was before I ever bought a damn computer...I miss those days. ;)
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Oct 26, 2013, 18:20:56
Oh I agree it's no fun spending hours in front of any OS unless it's a Kindle.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Oct 26, 2013, 19:06:36
Quote from: Gary on Oct 26, 2013, 17:03:02More and more disheartened with Apple as time goes on I have to admit.

Ditto :(

I don't feel as strongly about it as Gary seems to, but then I haven't installed Mavericks yet :P

I'll give it until 10.9.1 (or maybe .2, depending) but I've been looking at Linux recently... I think about the only program I use that isn't available on that platform is iTunes, and I gather the Windows version runs happily enough under WINE.

I'm running Ubuntu on an old Vista laptop at the moment, but it's only got 1GB of RAM so it struggles a bit, and quite a few people have said there are better flavours around. I really need another machine to try it out properly, but that will have to wait until the credit card has recovered a bit from the last couple of months :eek4:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Oct 26, 2013, 20:09:26
Although I'm still happy this will be the first year for awhile that they've not had a major purchase from me, as things stand it could well be this time next year before they receive another donation.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Oct 28, 2013, 07:19:52
ARDagent 3.7 doesn't play with firewalls on! i.e. no remote desktop or screen sharing.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Oct 28, 2013, 08:18:40
This year mavericks feels rushed and very unfinished even for a point release, iOS7 needed 3 patches in quick succession, iPhone 5s issues with build quality in the million with loose power buttons that rattle and can be heard in calls and videos. Apple really are not doing as well. I'm sure Mavericks will get plugged soon enough but Apples quality is down hill, the latest iMacs I would not touch with barge poll with glued in screens and bad image retention. Macbooks costing thousands that if the headphone socket gets loose its because it snapped off the soldiered board and that's that, ram soldiered down along with batteries glued in now. Expensive and non fixable, god help you if you don't have Apple care. I know more manufacturers are going over to this model, but in this price range? OS X was a great OS and it feels Apple left it behind while trying to get iOS7 out so both suffered from not being baked long enough.  :( I guess I'm fed up of being the beta tester for so many companies these days.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Oct 28, 2013, 09:02:42
I've often wondered at the desire to bring out a new release of OS X and iOS  on a yearly basis, there were few updates to both after the initial release , SL which was a fine OS IMO was regularly updated before Lion.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Oct 28, 2013, 09:11:43
Quote from: Steve on Oct 28, 2013, 09:02:42
I've often wondered at the desire to bring out a new release of OS X and iOS  on a yearly basis, there were few updates to both after the initial release , SL which was a fine OS IMO was regularly updated before Lion.
I think the two year cycle gave a better and more stable release, this one year cycle especially for desktops just leaves to much room for error, and Apples secrecy and silence on problems does not help. SL was a damn fine OS, Lion was horrible, ML was ok for me, apart from some bugs in 10.8.5 which got fixed, and now 10.9 is a mess tbh. I can use it but it really needs work. If you leave it till 10.9.2 or later it will be nearly time for the next release. You only seem to get a few months of good stability out of each OS. Also 10.9 was a big security update and ML is now left with major holes in its firewall amongst a few other things  :shake:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Oct 28, 2013, 11:24:39
Another "improvement" in Mavericks:

http://www.tuaw.com/2013/10/27/did-mavericks-kill-your-network-drive-access-heres-a-fix/ (http://www.tuaw.com/2013/10/27/did-mavericks-kill-your-network-drive-access-heres-a-fix/)
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Oct 28, 2013, 12:41:24
Marvellous , at least I've no holes in my ML firewall as I've turned it off! ;)  I do have one on the router so all is not lost.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Oct 28, 2013, 23:06:07
Quote from: Steve on Oct 28, 2013, 12:41:24
Marvellous , at least I've no holes in my ML firewall as I've turned it off! ;)  I do have one on the router so all is not lost.
Unless its any one of the routers that have been found to have backdoors, Steve  ;D its like painting the seven bridge.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Nov 05, 2013, 23:02:16
iTunes 11.1.3 released. Bug fixes.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Simon on Nov 05, 2013, 23:54:01
Thanks Gary.  :)
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Nov 07, 2013, 23:27:40
Mail update and iBooks update for OS X fail Mavericks  ;)
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Nov 12, 2013, 23:51:12
Digital Raw update 5.0.1 released
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Nov 24, 2013, 12:16:23
iMovie 10.0.1 and Pages 5.0.1 updated, they are not listed on the Apple website I only released when my Mac wanted to update them today ::)
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: zappaDPJ on Nov 27, 2013, 17:50:37
Well that's annoying. I'd convinced myself that there was something wrong with my iPhone 4 because I wasn't receiving calls or getting any audio indication of incoming texts and notifications. Today I decided I'd fiddle about one last time to be sure and then head off to Apple for a replacement. Only it turned out not to be broken. The last update toggled a load of settings I didn't even know existed which basically put the phone in silent mode and/or reject calls amongst other things (some of which I still can't find a setting for).

I've had it happen before where a setting toggled after an update which wiped out my entire calender and then synced the emptiness to Outlook. This time the consequences were dire. I had to eat humble pie for telling her in doors that she categorically had not phoned me and left two messages because if she had I would have known about it. Bugger! She'll dine out on that one until xmas... 2020. Just as bad, I don't need a shiny new phone :'(

So why does this happen, it seems so random. And can someone tell me what the padlock icon next to the battery life indicator means please :)
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Simon on Nov 27, 2013, 18:51:33
Can't say it's ever happened to my 4S, Zap. Would the padlock mean the phone is locked?
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: zappaDPJ on Nov 27, 2013, 19:06:42
I don't lock my phone :o and the padlock is always there :dunno:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Simon on Nov 27, 2013, 19:10:44
The padlock isn't there on mine, even when the phone is locked. :dunno:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: zappaDPJ on Nov 27, 2013, 19:12:41
I've never seen it before either, it appeared after the last update.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Simon on Nov 27, 2013, 19:13:19
Ah, I think it might mean the phone is locked in portrait mode, so you can't use landscape mode. On iOS 7, swipe up from the bottom of the screen to get the Control Centre, then click the top right button.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Nov 27, 2013, 19:55:54
That's my feeling Simon it's a screen rotation lock.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: zappaDPJ on Nov 27, 2013, 21:14:39
Sorted, thanks guys :)

I guess that one could have been down to a miss-click aka sausage fingers ;D
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Simon on Nov 27, 2013, 21:28:57
Yes, I hate that Control Centre - it's too easy to click one of the top buttons when closing it, and I'm always turning off Bluetooth by mistake.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Nov 28, 2013, 08:53:52
Quote from: Simon on Nov 27, 2013, 21:28:57
Yes, I hate that Control Centre - it's too easy to click one of the top buttons when closing it, and I'm always turning off Bluetooth by mistake.
I rarely do that on my iPhine 5S but do in the iPad, I think its how big the control centre is. If its an issue tell Apple via feedback, they do listen and have implemented some things people wanted.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Dec 03, 2013, 20:59:51
Apple remote desktop client update 3.7.1 released. Bug fixes and probably security fixes.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Dec 03, 2013, 21:37:22
Thanks Gary, finally got my DAC to work with Mavericks tonight after Chord Electronics updated their driver.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Dec 03, 2013, 22:01:37
Quote from: Steve on Dec 03, 2013, 21:37:22
Thanks Gary, finally got my DAC to work with Mavericks tonight after Chord Electronics updated their driver.
:thumb: I'm hoping 10.9.1 comes along soon and fixes the FireWire, thunderbolt and sleep and graphics issues.  ::)
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Dec 16, 2013, 07:33:00
iPhoto 9.5.1 (Mavericks) fixes issues with print preview, stability and bug fixes too. (Came out last week but my Mac only just updated, I cant find it on the Apple website anywhere I had to search the web for a whats it about then matey  >:( )
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Dec 16, 2013, 08:16:21
True mine updated this AM as well.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Dec 16, 2013, 08:38:52
Quote from: Steve on Dec 16, 2013, 08:16:21
True mine updated this AM as well.
It was released last Wednesday, Steve. The Apple website seems to no longer keep up with updates sometimes  :dunno:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Dec 16, 2013, 09:11:25
I didn't see anything on rumours either.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Dec 16, 2013, 09:54:01
Quote from: Steve on Dec 16, 2013, 09:11:25
I didn't see anything on rumours either.
Apple are now doing stealth updates in line with their company policy of silence on everything else fruity it seems  ;D
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Dec 16, 2013, 10:08:32
I wondered why the laptop was crawling this AM didn't realise it was an iPhoto update until it finished, perhaps time to turn auto update off.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Dec 16, 2013, 11:34:38
Quote from: Steve on Dec 16, 2013, 10:08:32
I wondered why the laptop was crawling this AM didn't realise it was an iPhoto update until it finished, perhaps time to turn auto update off.
Think is its going to be hard to tell when updates are released if Apple dont post that they have  :eyebrow:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: lozcart on Dec 16, 2013, 13:10:19
Quote from: Gary on Dec 16, 2013, 09:54:01
Apple are now doing stealth updates in line with their company policy of silence on everything else fruity it seems  ;D

It's to stop idnet having congestion issues when a large update is released.  :evil:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Dec 16, 2013, 22:19:50
Quote from: lozcart on Dec 16, 2013, 13:10:19
It's to stop idnet having congestion issues when a large update is released.  :evil:
;D
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Dec 16, 2013, 22:23:24
10.9.1 released which concentrates on Mail issues, so I still have pin wheels randomly, I still have glitches in the animation for Disc Utility which still does not verify drives properly unless you boot into safe mode and my iMac wont sleep with a firewire drive plugged in. All of which worked fine in Mountain Lion. Thanks for Nothing, Apple  :mad:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Dec 16, 2013, 22:50:24
I can verify the disk but I can't repair it obviously. I think a job for the morning.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Dec 16, 2013, 22:59:44
Quote from: Steve on Dec 16, 2013, 22:50:24
I can verify the disk but I can't repair it obviously. I think a job for the morning.
Mine verifies but its buggy, it wont always verify all the way and sometimes I get the green ok sometimes I don't its a known issue for some Macs thats not fixed in this update.  :shake: Its only a 246Mb download, and of course no combo as its a first patch for the OS. It does feel faster though and some glitches are fixed, just a shame my Mac cant sleep. I may try a clean install of 10.9.1 tomorrow, as long as IDNets network can cope with it  >:D
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Dec 17, 2013, 10:00:36
How strange I'm glad I didn't do the update last night, the Music Server (Mac Mini) was fine, however the MBP stalled on 5 secs to go. I turned it off, then rebooted , disk utility failed to verify and to be honest I've not seen this issue before. Then booted into safe mode with an additional disk verification so I could see the check and then re installed 10.9.1 update which this time went fine, thank goodness.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Simon on Dec 17, 2013, 11:09:10
Who'd have a Mac, eh?  :evil:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: zappaDPJ on Dec 17, 2013, 13:43:40
I'm seriously considering buy a new Mac Pro :eek4: I know most people think they are outrageously expensive but for graphics and video work, there's nothing on the market that comes close.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Dec 17, 2013, 13:54:17
It's a lovely looking machine and compared to what I spent 15 years ago on a PC, you could say it's a bargain.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Tacitus on Dec 17, 2013, 17:02:18
Quote from: Steve on Dec 17, 2013, 13:54:17
It's a lovely looking machine and compared to what I spent 15 years ago on a PC, you could say it's a bargain.

I took a look at one and even with higher education discount they are expensive.  You then need to factor in something like a Drobo or one of the hideously expensive Promise RAID boxes and you can easily hit £4K even with the discount - and that's not for the high end version.

All fine of course if you're doing video production, but not for me I'm afraid much as I lust after one  ;D

It's interesting how much some of the older MacPros are fetching on eBay.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: zappaDPJ on Dec 17, 2013, 17:48:40
My first PC, a 33MHz 486 Compaq with 640k RAM and a 20MB hard drive cost me well over £4000 in the 80s and that was by no means the most outrageous amount of money I've paid out on computer equipment :-\
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Simon on Dec 17, 2013, 17:55:06
I could only dream of having £4000 in the 80s!
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Dec 17, 2013, 17:55:43
It depends what you want to do Zap but the iMac is a very capable machine although you don't get the choice of monitors!
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: zappaDPJ on Dec 17, 2013, 18:47:25
I'm starting to take on video editing and rendering work. The problem is my best PC struggles to run the software. To be honest the cost of the Mac Pro is not as much as a hurdle as replacing all my software with Mac versions.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Dec 17, 2013, 20:18:02
Quote from: Steve on Dec 17, 2013, 10:00:36
How strange I'm glad I didn't do the update last night, the Music Server (Mac Mini) was fine, however the MBP stalled on 5 secs to go. I turned it off, then rebooted , disk utility failed to verify and to be honest I've not seen this issue before. Then booted into safe mode with an additional disk verification so I could see the check and then re installed 10.9.1 update which this time went fine, thank goodness.
A few people had that, I did a clean install of 10.9.1 (without icloud nonsense) and its running smoother, still wont put my Firewire/Thunderbolt ports to sleep but it is a step forward, still a few glitches with app nap and memory compression but I imagine things will get better in 10.9.2  ::) I installed 10.9 when IDNet was having really bad packet loss, I do wonder if that effected the install in October.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Technical Ben on Dec 17, 2013, 22:06:51
Quote from: zappaDPJ on Dec 17, 2013, 13:43:40
I'm seriously considering buy a new Mac Pro :eek4: I know most people think they are outrageously expensive but for graphics and video work, there's nothing on the market that comes close.
For that price I'm sure I could get some NVidia cards with CUDA support and a couple of i7s. It would be setup in a cardboard box though... but it'd be fast! :whistle:

PS, just looked, I am honestly shocked that this is at least 1 Mac priced correctly. Priced it up on scan with slightly faster GPUs (Apples are custom) and non-ecc memory (no professional server boards available to measly peasant consumers like me :P ) and it came out a couple of pence over £2500, the same as the Mac Pro.
:)

Though I'd assume they have slightly less clocked and less ram for the GPU. Things like ECC memory etc do pull it back in it's favor for a small server/simulation box. Not sure if a single pixel color out of place would matter on encoding though, but may save from a program crash.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Dec 17, 2013, 23:20:03
Raw update 5.0.2 released
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: zappaDPJ on Dec 17, 2013, 23:36:35
Quote from: Technical Ben on Dec 17, 2013, 22:06:51
For that price I'm sure I could get some NVidia cards with CUDA support and a couple of i7s. It would be setup in a cardboard box though... but it'd be fast! :whistle:

The Mac Pro's cardboard box is a little bit more than a cardboard box ;D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbWOQWw1wkM

I'd imagine it adds somewhat to the final price tag as well.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Technical Ben on Dec 18, 2013, 18:31:07
As said, that was my first impression, on checking, I saw Apple did a first, and charged the right price for the product. Though the looks are still put ahead of most other things (a round PC, that's CRAZY! :D ).
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Glenn on Dec 18, 2013, 21:15:11
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJA9CEhnsIE may be handy to look at before buying.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Dec 21, 2013, 11:48:57
I stuck my iMac up for sale today, I dont use it enough any more. Get a celluar iPad air 64Gb for all the music and photos (iPhoto on the iPad is great) Makes life simpler for me all round, Justina is selling her laptop too as she only really needs a tablet, That way I can not worry so much about iPhones as I don't need to double up on the tech so a simple phone will do when my iPhone dies(break out my Nokia 8210). My TV already has  iPlayer as does Sky but it has Youtube etc as well and its better watching all that on the bigger screen. If I get the iPad from John Lewis it comes with a 2 year warranty so no need for Apple care.  :) Above all no more OS X which really is abysmal these days.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Dec 24, 2013, 12:53:18
Safari 6.1.1 (Mountain Lion) and Digital camera RAW update 5.02.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: pctech on Dec 24, 2013, 14:01:39
Quote from: Technical Ben on Dec 18, 2013, 18:31:07
As said, that was my first impression, on checking, I saw Apple did a first, and charged the right price for the product. Though the looks are still put ahead of most other things (a round PC, that's CRAZY! :D ).

Nice looking machine certainly but there's a good reason they have designed it in this way, so that you have to go back to Apple for any upgrades you may want.

Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Dec 25, 2013, 09:06:27
Quote from: pctech on Dec 24, 2013, 14:01:39
Nice looking machine certainly but there's a good reason they have designed it in this way, so that you have to go back to Apple for any upgrades you may want.


Most people dont upgrade computers much these days, they buy one and that's it, the day of the hobbyist computer geek is fading. As for upgrading a computer myself, 10 years ago maybe, now id let the retailer, I could not be bothered tbh, hence I'm selling mine so I never have to. I have reached that age when I know a tablet is all I need, I cant be bothered with keeping up with it all, the money I have waisted on phones and tech...damn I could have had some great memories with that cash, Mitch.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: pctech on Dec 25, 2013, 15:05:42
For the mainstream I would agree yes but I think there'll be a few of us (myself included) that will still want more power and flexibility than a tab or phone can provide so will end up buying CPUs, server motherboards and other components and cobbling together our own systems.

I wouldn't be without my smartphone now (never thought I'd say that!) but still want the power of a desktop for my main computing needs but at work am definitely getting lots more folks ringing up for help with sites running on smartphones and tablets.

Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Glenn on Dec 25, 2013, 16:35:27
I just bought a new graphics card, Sapphire HD7970 vapor X, it should allow me to run iRacing on full settings.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: zappaDPJ on Dec 25, 2013, 16:37:13
For maximum efficiency, keeping in mind that I work from a computer at home, I use an iPhone, iPad and a workstation. What I certainly don't need any more and I'm glad to see the back of, is an expensive but slow laptop. My iPhone is pretty much essential for push notification as it allows me to provide support 24/7 and while I hesitated buying an iPad for a long time it's getting at least double the use of any laptop I've ever owned. Sure they are expensive but it's still only a third of the price of the majority of laptops I've bought. I love the fact that it's ready to use the instant I open the cover, it's fast and it does everything I need to do far better than a laptop. It'll more than pay for itself within a few months.

I am going to have trouble justifying the price of a Mac Pro though. I've looked very carefully at all the available options and it's going to cost me just under £5,916 inc for the model I want which is more than double the cost of my current workstation. I think I'm going to have to go and play around with one for a day before I even consider buying one at that price plus I need to factor in the cost of all the software I'll need.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Dec 25, 2013, 16:51:09
I agree the iPad does make a laptop largely redundant, would a high performing iMac not be up to the task? Not the specs of the pro but maxing out the ram and video memory with a fusion drive should give impressive performance at half the price.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: pctech on Dec 25, 2013, 17:22:38
Quote from: Glenn on Dec 25, 2013, 16:35:27
I just bought a new graphics card, Sapphire HD7970 vapor X, it should allow me to run iRacing on full settings.

I keep meaning to get iRacing up and running as I do love racing sims, might do it over the holiday.

Nice card btw
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: zappaDPJ on Dec 25, 2013, 21:18:33
Quote from: Steve on Dec 25, 2013, 16:51:09
I agree the iPad does make a laptop largely redundant, would a high performing iMac not be up to the task? Not the specs of the pro but maxing out the ram and video memory with a fusion drive should give impressive performance at half the price.

I recently borrowed a 27" i5 iMac from someone I know with a view to buying it but in the end I decided against it mainly because it didn't really perform any better than my 2-3 year old PC/workstation. I think the right spec Pro will but I can't really gauge by how much.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Dec 26, 2013, 08:50:08
Quote from: Steve on Dec 25, 2013, 16:51:09
I agree the iPad does make a laptop largely redundant, would a high performing iMac not be up to the task? Not the specs of the pro but maxing out the ram and video memory with a fusion drive should give impressive performance at half the price.
Lots of people don't like the fusion drives, they have issues and boot slowly or crash, seen more of them go bad than normal drives since release on forums, they are not up to the hype Apple placed on them, lots of complaints of them being dog slow too oddly enough. With a machine that's mostly glued together (screen to body even on 27 inch which has image retention problems as well) I think its a bad buy. Apple have showed that iPads and iPhones are their bread and butter, OS X is being left to fall behind. I have a late 2011, with a sandybridge i7 and 16Gig of ram and even with a 7200rpm hard drive it should perform fine, (base new iMacs now have 5400rpm) You have to pay £200 for a fusion drive and £100 more than the late 2011 models just for fun. The 21.5" units are totally glued shut unlike my model so you cant even add more ram, and they have no disc drive, and yes many people still use disc drives.

I'm fed up with wrestling with this OS too and hopefully in the new year this iMac will get sold. I don't need its power, I don't need the headaches of firewire 800 and thunderbolt not working as stated, having to delete and re-run spotlight on the external drive because Mavericks corrupts it. I just pick up and use my tablet, its simple. I would pick up an older Mac Pro if I wanted a serious desktop that you can actually upgrade, the new ones is another sealed shut Mac, but at a price point thats crazy. Yes I said most people wont go inside and fiddle, but on the old Mac Pros you could slot a new hard drive in or Graphics card, and not have to have a bunch of wires for thunderbolt trailing everywhere, and at £5k I would expect more. Its form over function yet again with a messy OS, and I cant see OS X getting better when Apple only care about $$$ especially now they have the Chinese market to sell iPhones in.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: zappaDPJ on Dec 26, 2013, 11:04:16
I'm not too concerned about the expandability of the Pro because rightly or wrongly I take it as read with Apple products that I need to get it right first time. It does tend to focus your mind prior to purchase though, I spent a few hours thinking about my recent iPad purchase before I took the plunge. What does concern me far more is whether of not the software I want to use will be rewritten to take account of the dual GPUs. That is by far the most important factor which makes the price tag and expandability largely secondary issues.

I've read enough to know that rendering and video editing software running across both cores puts the Pro firmly in a league of its own. However software that utilises a single core only runs marginally faster than it would do on the best iMac. That said I do get the impression that the Pro is not yet shipping so reliable benchmarking figures are hard to find. I suspect if I do buy one it won't be for many months.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Jan 22, 2014, 22:25:18
iTunes 11.1.4 released. The usual whatever they are updates I imagine, as the apple site does not list changes yet
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Jan 23, 2014, 06:12:26
 :thumb:

Nothing obviously new, but I haven't run it seriously yet.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Tacitus on Jan 23, 2014, 18:23:00
Bit of a deviation from the topic, but does anyone know if the current 13" Retina MBk Pro uses the Haswell chip?  I know the MBk Air does but I'm not sure of the Pro.

Reason I ask is that I'm looking at replacing my existing MBk Pro which is now around 5/6 years old.  Still runs fine, if a tad slow.  It's probably worth replacing now whilst it has some residual value. 
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Jan 23, 2014, 18:35:25
If this is correct yes it does.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacBook_Pro#Technical_specifications_3
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Tacitus on Jan 23, 2014, 19:05:18
Quote from: Steve on Jan 23, 2014, 18:35:25
If this is correct yes it does.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacBook_Pro#Technical_specifications_3

Good find thanks Steve.  I Googled for it but could only find references to Core i5, with no reference to Haswell.  Looks like it's only the Retina version that has Haswell - the others are still on Ivy Bridge.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Jan 23, 2014, 19:44:00
Isn't there only one Ivy bridge machine though of the current model range.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Jan 23, 2014, 23:45:34
Quote from: Steve on Jan 23, 2014, 19:44:00
Isn't there only one Ivy bridge machine though of the current model range.
I think you are right, Steve. Haswell is great for power consumption but in normal use the difference between Sandy Bridge and Ivy Bridge and Haswell is not that pronounced. Haswell didn't do a lot for raw pricessing power compared with Ivy or Sandy Bridge. From memory I'm pretty sure there has been a few suspension bridges too...
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Tacitus on Jan 24, 2014, 07:17:37
Quote from: Steve on Jan 23, 2014, 19:44:00
Isn't there only one Ivy bridge machine though of the current model range.

I've had another look and yes Steve you're right, it's only the base model that's still on Ivy Bridge.  For me it's the power consumption and extra battery life that are the attraction with Haswell, although I think you need to have upgraded to Mavericks to get the full benefit.  I'm told that amazingly a lot of Mac stuff still ships with Mountain Lion. 

Whilst the Air has great battery life it feels rather flimsy compared to the Pro. 
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Jan 24, 2014, 07:43:16
Quote from: Tacitus on Jan 24, 2014, 07:17:37
I've had another look and yes Steve you're right, it's only the base model that's still on Ivy Bridge.  For me it's the power consumption and extra battery life that are the attraction with Haswell, although I think you need to have upgraded to Mavericks to get the full benefit.  I'm told that amazingly a lot of Mac stuff still ships with Mountain Lion. 

Whilst the Air has great battery life it feels rather flimsy compared to the Pro. 
New iMacs etc are shipping with Mavericks now (it like a beta not a release product, its very buggy), so I imagine the the air and pro will soon. Tragically I'm sure both have soldiered in ram, which is just unforgivable.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Tacitus on Jan 24, 2014, 12:05:11
Quote from: Gary on Jan 24, 2014, 07:43:16
Tragically I'm sure both have soldiered in ram, which is just unforgivable.

They do.  In effect you need to order with the maximum ram you can get.  And we haven't even mentioned the glued in battery.....  :(

I'm told by my local Apple dealer they are moving towards setting up a limited number of dedicated service centres.  These will be the ones with the resources to purchase the (expensive) specialist kit that will be needed to service this new generation of machines. 

I believe the luxury watch brands have done something similar.  I'm told it is very expensive if you want to set up to service Rolex - or probably Omega, Breitling - watches.  Some of the tools might get used once or twice in a lifetime, but you won't get official certification unless you have them.  Needless to say few of the official agents are doing it.

Apple service centres will go the same way, with perhaps one or two in a region.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Jan 24, 2014, 12:29:59
I had a buyer for my old 2011 iMac, I turned them down, I became unsure of what to do. I can change the ram myself, and it does not have a glued in screen thankfully, its held on by magnets. Its not running right though and my Applecare runs out in August so maybe time to send it in for a look over. I'll be taking pictures as I have seen iMacs that have come back dented and scratched to bits. I was going to just use an iPad, but I need a proper OS so I can download updated for my Camera GPS assist data amongst other things. Also my iMac has a built in disc drive unlike the new ones so maybe its worth holding on to. Its not USB 3 but tbh I don't have any usb 3 devices, and its still fast (i7 Sandy Bridge) and 8Gb ram with a bog standard 1TB 7200rpm hard drive, which seems less problematic than the new fusion drives.

The thing is I'll never buy another Mac for the reasons you point out, but I really like OS X (not Mavericks its hateful) Firewire 800 is not working with Mavericks and it seems Apple may have decided to forget to support it properly in the new OS, Apples strangle hold is really bugging me. I wont move to Android/Windows for Phones or an OS so I may have to keep this machine going. The 5s is a great phone for my meeds and not stupidly large, but Apple wont be getting any more money out of me in the foreseeable future at all. 
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Tacitus on Jan 24, 2014, 18:39:13
Quote from: Gary on Jan 24, 2014, 12:29:59
The thing is I'll never buy another Mac for the reasons you point out.....[SNIP]..........Apple wont be getting any more money out of me in the foreseeable future at all. 

For me it's pretty finely balanced.  My attitude to Win8 is pretty much akin to your view of Mavericks; quite what MS were thinking escapes me.  Even if I built my own machine - something I've done in the past - the cost of moving software and other stuff against simply buying another Mac is pretty much even.  OK so the software hurdle is more or less a one off, but even so things don't quite work the same so there's also a learning curve to overcome.

I use Win7 at work so I'm not completely out of touch with the Windows world even though I've been a Unix user from back when I was designing motorways.  Once you add in the hassle of dealing with another OS - particularly the under the hood stuff - I conclude it's not really worth the effort.

Perhaps in a few years that will change as the computer landscape goes through even more convulsions.   :)
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Feb 25, 2014, 18:47:21
10.9.2 now in the App Store, and Safari 6.1.2.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Feb 25, 2014, 19:29:32
More info here:

http://www.tuaw.com/2014/02/25/os-x-update-10-9-2-now-available
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Feb 25, 2014, 19:32:34
Thanks Bill :thumb:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Feb 25, 2014, 20:36:36
installed and so dar much smoother than 10.9.1. Waiting to see if my Mac will sleep with a firewire drive now  ::) if not back to usb  :bawl:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Feb 25, 2014, 22:36:05
Fairly meaty update at 460 MB.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Feb 25, 2014, 22:38:19
I just report it, I don't have to download it  :P


(Still on Mountain Lion)
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Feb 26, 2014, 10:28:02
10.9.2 much smoother and faster now than Mountain Lion, the update did not sort out the FW 800 issue at all  :mad: Apple I think are depreciating it as new Macs dont have it anymore. I would so never buy a Mac again. All in all a good update. Mine was 789Mb ish.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Feb 26, 2014, 19:39:52
iTunes 11.1.5

"This update fixes a problem that may cause iTunes to quit unexpectedly when a device is connected and improves compatibility with iBooks for Mac on OS X Mavericks."
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Feb 26, 2014, 19:40:12
 :thumb:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Feb 26, 2014, 20:22:25
Because they could not have released that yesterday  ::) 
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Glenn on Feb 26, 2014, 22:01:27
They didn't find it until yesterday.  :evil:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Feb 26, 2014, 22:07:07
I think they left it another day to give the ISPs a breather! >:D
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Feb 26, 2014, 22:52:42
Quote from: Steve on Feb 26, 2014, 22:07:07
I think they left it another day to give the ISPs a breather! >:D
It could have just been packaged with the update though...good old rotten Apple, do it their way or not at all.  :evil:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Feb 26, 2014, 22:59:41
Quote from: Gary on Feb 26, 2014, 22:52:42
It could have just been packaged with the update though...

To be fair to Apple (Ooh, that hurt ;) ), yesterday's Mavericks update was of sod all interest to me as I'm still on Mountain Lion, as are a lot of others.

But the iTunes update applied to me too (otherwise I wouldn't have seen it). It may even apply to the Snow Leopard machines, I haven't checked them yet.

Yesterday's Safari update was "separate", but presumably included on the same update as it also required a restart.

The iTunes update doesn't, so it doesn't really matter when it's released.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Feb 27, 2014, 07:19:49
Quote from: Gary on Feb 26, 2014, 22:52:42
It could have just been packaged with the update though...good old rotten Apple, do it their way or not at all.  :evil:

:sleepy:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Feb 27, 2014, 07:44:35
Quote from: Steve on Feb 27, 2014, 07:19:49
:sleepy:
ahh bless, he fell asleep...
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Mar 21, 2014, 09:16:54
Digital Camera RAW Compatibility Update 5.04 released and Garageband 10.0.2 (if you upgraded from 6.0.5. The upgrade is free if you have Mavericks)
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Apr 02, 2014, 07:49:55
Safari 7.0.3 and 6.1.3 released (security fixes and a stop notifications from websites option in 7.0.3.  As well as an update for the latest versions of iLife details below.

Numbers, and Pages for Mac are all available for download, with each update adding a slew of new features to the apps, including a new "view only" setting that allows users to share documents that can be viewed but not edited. The updated versions of all three apps contain a slew of new features.

Keynote, for example, has gained improved Presenter Display layouts and labels along with new transitions and builds, among other features, while Numbers has new printing options, custom data formats, and custom table styles. Pages has copy-paste style improvements, improved AppleScript support, and better placement of inserted and pasted objects. All of the updates can be found in the Mac App Store.

Updated versions of Pages, Numbers, and Keynote for iOS are also available for download from the App Store, adding the same "view only" setting that lets users share documents that can be viewed but not edited, along with many other new features.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Apr 09, 2014, 09:53:37
Flash player Flash Player 13.0.0.182  released yesterday in case no one has had an auto update yet.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Apr 09, 2014, 10:15:14
 :thumb:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Apr 11, 2014, 12:03:22
iMovie 10.0.3 released.

• Option to sort events in the sidebar by date
• Change the font, size, and color of new titles introduced in iMovie version 10
• Double-click a transition in the timeline to adjust its duration
• Crop and rotate clips in events
• Add speed effects using the Adjustments Bar
• Option to smoothly transition in and out of speed effects
• Fixes issues that could cause iMovie to quit unexpectedly
• Resolves issues that could cause sharing to fail
• Improves reliability of search when using partial or multiple search terms
• General usability improvements on computers using certain languages
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: goldberg on Apr 12, 2014, 22:46:19
Microsoft Office for Mac 2011 14.4.1 Update available for download
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Simon on Apr 12, 2014, 22:47:36
 :thumb:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Apr 16, 2014, 10:42:05
Yet another Flash update came out today version 13.0.0.201  ::) So thats two this month.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Simon on Apr 16, 2014, 16:02:50
:sigh:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Apr 17, 2014, 09:33:26
Quote from: Simon on Apr 16, 2014, 16:02:50
:sigh:
This version is just for OS X Simon  :)
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Apr 23, 2014, 08:11:02
Safari update and related security fixes 7.0.3
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Apr 23, 2014, 08:45:45
Quote from: Steve on Apr 23, 2014, 08:11:02
Safari update and related security fixes 7.0.3
Safari 7.0.3 has been out for weeks, Steve. There was some security update and a heartbleed patch for 802.11.ac time capsules too. Oh and iOS 7.1.1 Also security patch for Lion and Mountain Lion. SL is no longer supported.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Apr 23, 2014, 09:06:03
Sorry Gary I named it incorrectly I saw it included 7.0.3 and didn't check my current version which of course was 7.0.3 :slap:

http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1740
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Apr 23, 2014, 09:16:09
Quote from: Steve on Apr 23, 2014, 09:06:03
Sorry Gary I named it incorrectly I saw it included 7.0.3 and didn't check my current version which of course was 7.0.3 :slap:

http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1740
;D There is a bunch of permission repairs if you get a chance. Also the beta programe for OS X has now been opened up to the general public. It may get some bugs fixed thats Apple seem to miss, who knows  ;) https://appleseed.apple.com/sp/betaprogram
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Apr 23, 2014, 09:24:08
Somehow I don't think I'll bother :)
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Apr 23, 2014, 09:29:27
Quote from: Steve on Apr 23, 2014, 09:24:08
Somehow I don't think I'll bother :)
You took the words right out of my mouth, Steve.  :)
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Apr 28, 2014, 16:05:10
Flash player 13.0.0.206 released  ::)
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Apr 28, 2014, 19:19:01
 :thumb:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Apr 29, 2014, 10:49:18
Firefox 29 released with new Australis interface (yuk)
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Simon on Apr 29, 2014, 11:50:41
Upside down?  :)x
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Apr 29, 2014, 12:06:50
Quote from: Simon on Apr 29, 2014, 11:50:41
Upside down?  :)x
:slap:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on May 15, 2014, 18:14:10
OS X Mavericks 10.9.3 is out!


iTunes 11.2

No details as it's too fresh off the press! ;D
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on May 17, 2014, 08:48:45
iTunes 11.2.1 released it fixes a bug that hid /Users folder which is a top-level folder that contains the home folder and personal files for each user on a Mac. Also Digital Camera RAW Compatibility Update 5.05 was released at some point in Apples update fest.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on May 17, 2014, 09:32:09
Bloody hell why release 11.2 then , a tad premature I fear , public beta testing!
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Simon on May 17, 2014, 10:11:20
Which is what every Windows release seems to be!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on May 17, 2014, 11:27:18
Quote from: Steve on May 17, 2014, 09:32:09
Bloody hell why release 11.2 then , a tad premature I fear , public beta testing!
Looks like it effected peeps with find my mac enabled. So yep Public beta testing, and 10.9.3 still didnt cure the external firewire 800 drives not spinning down when the Mac sleeps. Mavericks has to be the buggiest OS Apple have released. I think its all hands on deck for iOS 8 and iPhone 6 hype now. Wow a 4.7" screen, marvel at the wonders of technology <cough>  ::)
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on May 17, 2014, 11:27:51
Quote from: Simon on May 17, 2014, 10:11:20
Which is what every Windows release seems to be!  :laugh:
That's because its on Windows  >:D
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Den on May 17, 2014, 16:22:36
One rule for one and another one for others. I'm not allowed to mention Windows on this thread.  ;D >:D
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on May 17, 2014, 17:54:27
Quote from: Den on May 17, 2014, 16:22:36
One rule for one and another one for others. I'm not allowed to mention Windows on this thread.  ;D >:D

True but I've never had a sound card problem re installing OS X either.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: zappaDPJ on May 17, 2014, 19:46:18
 :)x
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Den on May 17, 2014, 21:07:41
You have to reinstall a Apple System ? Well I never.  :slap: :swoon: :)x
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on May 17, 2014, 22:07:07
I've done it to go back to a previous version when a third party device manufacturer  had not updated their drivers. It was all very easy no software to find it just appeared over the my LAN and self installed with no interaction from me apart from the initial command.

I have an iMac which arrived with OS X Leopard and it's gone through several OS X upgrades without any reinstall and indeed only restarts itself when an OS upgrade is required , so in 5 years it's probably only turned itself off and restarted 20-30 times, otherwise it's on or asleep.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Simon on May 17, 2014, 23:16:18
Quotein 5 years it's probably only turned itself off and restarted 20-30 times, otherwise it's on or asleep.

I know how it feels.   ;D
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on May 17, 2014, 23:54:25
Quote from: Den on May 17, 2014, 21:07:41
You have to reinstall a Apple System ? Well I never.  :slap: :swoon: :)x
Why so serious?  :)x :swoon: :slap: :eyebrow: :whistle: :laugh:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Glenn on May 18, 2014, 06:42:22
It's a benefit of a closed verses open architecture model, Apple know the specs of the machines they support, where as a Windows PC can have 1000's of permutations. 
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on May 18, 2014, 09:06:49
Quote from: Glenn on May 18, 2014, 06:42:22
It's a benefit of a closed verses open architecture model, Apple know the specs of the machines they support, where as a Windows PC can have 1000's of permutations. 
These days thats meaning less than it used to, Glenn. They seem happy to spend billions on Beats Audio for instance but don't have enough architects to work on iOS and OS X at the same time so one suffers (OS X) its almost time for OS X 10.10 and they never fixed Firewire drives not sleeping with the computer as they should which works fine in 10.8. I would still says OS X is more stable than Windows and thats not being a fan boy its my personal observation, but lets just say I liked Apple more when it had 'computer' in its name  :eyebrow:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on May 18, 2014, 09:27:51
I agree it seems that OS X has taken a back seat to iOS but I guess that's where the profit is, in tablets and phones.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on May 18, 2014, 11:12:24
Quote from: Steve on May 18, 2014, 09:27:51
I agree it seems that OS X has taken a back seat to iOS but I guess that's where the profit is, in tablets and phones.
The thing is some people still would want a Mac book rather than an iPad. I really hope 10.10 is better, and also that my ageing 2011 iMac can run it because Apple are not getting any more money out of me for phones or computers. I have had my fill. 
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on May 18, 2014, 11:19:07
I agree . I use my iPad a lot but in reality any similar functioning Tablet would be acceptable. When if my hardware becomes obsolete I'm not sure which path to take , there are few tasks I perform these days  that need real computer power but I wouldn't wish to be not able to do them.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on May 18, 2014, 11:43:07
Quote from: Steve on May 18, 2014, 11:19:07
there are few tasks I perform these days  that need real computer power but I wouldn't wish to be not able to do them.
I know what you mean, Steve. I cant justify Apple tax anymore but I would hate to be without the computer for those tasks as you say  :-\
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Simon on May 18, 2014, 11:53:55
I really am seriously thinking of an alternative to the iPhone.  I'm itching to upgrade, so as to get more storage space, as much as anything else, and a device with upgradable storage, against paying Apple well over the odds for the additional space, almost seems a no brainer.  I'm sorely tempted by the HTC One M8, but it's just that it's Android, plus, I'll be sick if I upgrade now, then the iPhone 6 really does turn out to be something special. 
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on May 18, 2014, 12:02:05
I think the iPhone is something special but personally this time round I couldn't justify the cost, hence the reason I went for a much cheaper Android.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on May 18, 2014, 12:18:47
Quote from: Simon on May 18, 2014, 11:53:55
I really am seriously thinking of an alternative to the iPhone.  I'm itching to upgrade, so as to get more storage space, as much as anything else, and a device with upgradable storage, against paying Apple well over the odds for the additional space, almost seems a no brainer.  I'm sorely tempted by the HTC One M8, but it's just that it's Android, plus, I'll be sick if I upgrade now, then the iPhone 6 really does turn out to be something special. 
You will have to fork out more for a 32GB version and apart from having a few more bells and whistles and a maybe a 4.7" big deal... my 5s is fine at 4" till it dies I wont buy another iPhone ever again. I would be more interested in the Android silver thing when google get that together, more frequent updates etc. Nothing wrong with Android, it works well, its just that HTC an Samsung have added so much clutter a basic 16BG model is filled with bloat that you end up with 8GB phone sometimes.

They are Android based phones not Android phones. Also no phone is worth £600 + its a mugs game. What more can you possibly squeeze out of a phone you will actually use?  Wearable tech will break the rut phones are in, I suppose the Galaxy S5 is dust and waterproof but even that is having poor sales. As to the HTC M8 it's pretty but not at that price, and the camera has odd reviews, also I just don't trust HTC to keep that phone relevant for more than a year and I'm not playing the upgrade game anymore. Vanilla Android handsets have so much more going for them, and they don't have to cost the earth.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on May 18, 2014, 12:28:48
It's a shame we have such poor Mobile infrastructure outside the big cities in the UK , there should be no need to use your phone as a mass storage device, music should be streamed to it IMO.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on May 18, 2014, 12:35:20
Quote from: Steve on May 18, 2014, 12:28:48
It's a shame we have such poor Mobile infrastructure outside the big cities in the UK , there should be no need to use your phone as a mass storage device, music should be streamed to it IMO.
I agree, but even with 4G speeds mobile BB costs way to much per GB. People are locked into hardware. As to the specs war its all marketing hype, I still have yet to see a friend use a 2Ghz quad core phone with 3GB ram for more than a bit of web browsing watching a youtube vid or hoping on facebook and maybe playing some tunes, but having the numbers gives them bragging rights, thats all.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Glenn on May 18, 2014, 12:46:42
I'm looking at getting a Nexus 6 when it's released later in the year, if rumours are correct it will be based on the forth coming LG G3.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on May 18, 2014, 12:48:40
Quote from: Glenn on May 18, 2014, 12:46:42
I'm looking at getting a Nexus 6 when it's released later in the year, if rumours are correct it will be based on the forth coming LG G3.
The google play M8 looks nice but one again silly price for what it is which is a nexus in a flashy body.  LG seem to do well and dont cost the earth.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: zappaDPJ on May 18, 2014, 13:30:11
I'm pretty sure I'll be buying a 32/64GB iPhone 5/6 this year to replace my ageing iPhone 4. They are ridiculously expensive but it's something I use in one way or another 24/7.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on May 18, 2014, 15:00:35
Quote from: zappaDPJ on May 18, 2014, 13:30:11
I'm pretty sure I'll be buying a 32/64GB iPhone 5/6 this year to replace my ageing iPhone 4. They are ridiculously expensive but it's something I use in one way or another 24/7.

But they last well usually and of course run the latest OS. Will my Nexus 5 last 2 years to earn the cost saving, I think it will but I don't think at that age it will run the latest OS which is always a temptation to swap out.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Simon on May 18, 2014, 16:05:03
I've had my 4S for three years now, and I can't see it running iOS8 very well.  There are features in iOS7 that it doesn't even run, so they are definitely pushing for hardware upgrades with each major iOS release. If I bought an iPhone 6, I'd have to get a 32 or 64Gb, but hopefully they will start at 32Gb this time. 

I think you're right, Gary, £600+ is a ridiculous amount to spend on a phone, but like Zap said, it's something I use each and every day, so I want something decent.  The top end Androids now seem to be catching up with Apple's prices, so soon there won't be much to choose between them.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on May 18, 2014, 17:13:47
Quote from: Simon on May 18, 2014, 16:05:03
I've had my 4S for three years now, and I can't see it running iOS8 very well.  There are features in iOS7 that it doesn't even run, so they are definitely pushing for hardware upgrades with each major iOS release. If I bought an iPhone 6, I'd have to get a 32 or 64Gb, but hopefully they will start at 32Gb this time. 

I think you're right, Gary, £600+ is a ridiculous amount to spend on a phone, but like Zap said, it's something I use each and every day, so I want something decent.  The top end Androids now seem to be catching up with Apple's prices, so soon there won't be much to choose between them.
Ill go back to a dumbphone when mine dies, for myself texting and calling is all I need. I dont even go out enough to warrant music on one anymore. I refuse to spend almost the price of a a ticket to Australia every time I want a new phone. I have  a few friends who have gone back to old Nokia 6310i and I honestly dont blame them, for my needs it good enough. I use the so called 'smart' features less and less  so what's the point. If you use one as its meant to be then fair enough but I dont anymore, I just need a basic phone and the 8210 I picked up is immaculate and tbh is small and lasts about 6 days on one charge, thats all I need for emergency's if im out in my wheelchair.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Simon on May 18, 2014, 20:15:10
I was even looking at a Blackberry Z30 this afternoon.  Reviews are pretty good for the phone, and it's not a bad price, but of course, there's a high risk of jumping aboard a sinking ship with regards the future of the company.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Den on May 18, 2014, 21:24:04
In the end a phone is a phone. I bought a 1year old iPhone 4S on ebay for about £160 and love it but I really don't use all its functions and when push comes to shove it's no better than my Sony for my needs. There is no way I would pay £600 for a phone and as I always buy ex-display PCs usually for under £400 there is no way I would pay £1500 for a desktop be it Windows or Apple.  :)
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on May 19, 2014, 08:42:06
Quote from: Simon on May 18, 2014, 20:15:10
I was even looking at a Blackberry Z30 this afternoon.  Reviews are pretty good for the phone, and it's not a bad price, but of course, there's a high risk of jumping aboard a sinking ship with regards the future of the company.
I would avoid Blackberry, wait and see what Apple brings out, if not the google play version of the M8 may be the best bet, personally id prefer to go to Australia  ;)
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Simon on May 19, 2014, 11:58:07
You'd only get one way for £600.  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on May 19, 2014, 12:46:36
Quote from: Simon on May 19, 2014, 11:58:07
You'd only get one way for £600.  ;) ;D
£640 return to Sydney, I know which id rather have...  ;)
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Simon on May 19, 2014, 13:49:34
It's syncs with iTunes.  :evil:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on May 28, 2014, 20:42:42
iTunes 11.2.2 released. I couldn't give a sh*t whats new anymore but there ya go  ;)
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Jun 10, 2014, 11:46:29
Flash player 14.0.0.125 released
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Jun 30, 2014, 19:30:35
10.9.4 released and iOS 7.1.2 Also security patches for ML and Lion
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: zappaDPJ on Jun 30, 2014, 20:09:09
Installing iOS 7.1.2 bricked my iPhone 4. I got this error http://support.apple.com/kb/TS5314 and so far I haven't been able to restore the phone to any sort of working order :eek4:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Jun 30, 2014, 20:12:39
Quote from: zappaDPJ on Jun 30, 2014, 20:09:09
Installing iOS 7.1.2 bricked my iPhone 4. I got this error http://support.apple.com/kb/TS5314 and so far I haven't been able to restore the phone to any sort of working order :eek4:
Went ok on my iPhone 5s and iPad 4 have you tried a DFU restore?  https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5269891
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: zappaDPJ on Jun 30, 2014, 20:31:58
I have with the same result I'm afraid but thanks for the suggestion.

[EDIT] After a lot of messing around I've finally managed to get the phone to restart by plugging it into a new installation of iTunes. Even that was problematical. I then tried to restore the phone using the old installation but it wasn't having any of it. So, I've now got a brand new phone :sigh:

Coincidentally, I was just about to back up the phone prior to reinstalling iTunes and thought I'd install the update as it was offered to me ::) Oh well, hopefully it'll at least sync with my new installation of Outlook...
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Jul 01, 2014, 07:59:42
Quote from: zappaDPJ on Jun 30, 2014, 20:31:58
I have with the same result I'm afraid but thanks for the suggestion.

[EDIT] After a lot of messing around I've finally managed to get the phone to restart by plugging it into a new installation of iTunes. Even that was problematical. I then tried to restore the phone using the old installation but it wasn't having any of it. So, I've now got a brand new phone :sigh:

Coincidentally, I was just about to back up the phone prior to reinstalling iTunes and thought I'd install the update as it was offered to me ::) Oh well, hopefully it'll at least sync with my new installation of Outlook...
Glad you got it working or sorts Zap  :thumb: seem a few others had your issues too  :dunno:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Jul 01, 2014, 10:31:00
7.1.2 is a little more than they said it fixes a whole host of vulnerabilities, including 30 issues in the mobile version of WebKit. Mail, Safari, Siri, and the OS kernel also gets the patched.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Bill on Jul 11, 2014, 08:57:09
iTunes 11.3- more bells and whistles.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Jul 11, 2014, 09:00:25
Quote from: Bill on Jul 11, 2014, 08:57:09
iTunes 11.3- more bells and whistles.
w00t  :eyebrow:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: zappaDPJ on Jul 11, 2014, 11:12:32
Quote from: Gary on Jul 11, 2014, 09:00:25
w00t  :eyebrow:

Was that a bell or a whistle? ;D
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Jul 12, 2014, 09:29:51
Quote from: zappaDPJ on Jul 11, 2014, 11:12:32
Was that a bell or a whistle? ;D
A duck call  ;D
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: zappaDPJ on Jul 12, 2014, 13:48:37
 ;D
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Aug 18, 2014, 18:11:52
Just shows how often I use OS X Safari 7.0.6 has been out for 5 days before I noticed.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Simon on Aug 18, 2014, 18:58:03
There was an iTunes update the other night too.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Aug 18, 2014, 20:14:13
I just cant be bothered to post updates any more, this site is so inactive these days.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Simon on Aug 18, 2014, 21:23:00
That's because people aren't posting any more.  ;)
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Aug 24, 2014, 08:16:04
Quote from: Simon on Aug 18, 2014, 21:23:00
That's because people aren't posting any more.  ;)
I know, its also because te forum has changed, it has no 'spark' I guess any more. With all thats going on in my life I wish it was like the old days, Simon.

Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Aug 24, 2014, 08:17:25
iMovie and iWorks updates.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Den on Aug 24, 2014, 18:52:12
As good as everyone is on here, the spark was Rik and sadly his kind are hard to replace.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Sep 09, 2014, 12:44:23
Flash Player 15.0.0.152
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Simon on Sep 09, 2014, 13:40:04
iOS 8 today?  :dunno:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Sep 09, 2014, 14:16:15
Quote from: Simon on Sep 09, 2014, 13:40:04
iOS 8 today?  :dunno:
Nope it will come out when the new iPhone comes out probably a week from todays iPhone 6 etc announcement when that happens. Looks like the iPhone 6 will have the same amount of ram as my iPhone 5s so far, no incentive to update at all till next year tbh. iOS 8... ill wait a few days to see what goes wrong  ;)
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Sep 10, 2014, 08:16:36
iTunes 11.4 (iOS 8 compatibility)
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Sep 18, 2014, 09:32:01
OS X 10.9.5 is out few bug fixes and Safari 7.0.6
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Sep 24, 2014, 18:30:59
iOS 8.0.1 released. Bug fixes.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: lozcart on Sep 24, 2014, 18:39:20
Quote from: Gary on Sep 24, 2014, 18:30:59
iOS 8.0.1 released. Bug fixes.

Don't update your iPhone 6 with this, you will lose Touch ID and your phone won't connect to your mobile carrier. I along with many others have this problem.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Sep 24, 2014, 18:43:00
Quote from: lozcart on Sep 24, 2014, 18:39:20
Don't update your iPhone 6 with this, you will lose Touch ID and your phone won't connect to your mobile carrier. I along with many others have this problem.
Have you tried a hard reset? No issue on the 5S or iPad 4
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Simon on Sep 24, 2014, 19:18:19
Can't find any confirmation that the update will address issues with the 4S. 
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Sep 24, 2014, 19:20:46
Quote from: Simon on Sep 24, 2014, 19:18:19
Can't find any confirmation that the update will address issues with the 4S. 
iOS 8 had a ton of security fixes overr iOS 7 too.  :-\ I think some people are using it, you probably wnt find a fix till 8.1 like with the 4 and 7.1. Massive cock up with the iPhone 6 though with this update
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Simon on Sep 24, 2014, 19:23:13
Often, a hard reset sorts these things out, but nobody seems to have said that it does.  :-\
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Simon on Sep 24, 2014, 19:25:29
I wonder if it makes a difference whether you upgrade OTA, or through iTunes?  I think it's more of a complete reinstallation if you do it through iTunes, rather than just a hole plug if you do it over the air.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Sep 24, 2014, 19:58:08
As you say with iTunes if you wish you can do a complete re install after a factory reset and then restore your backup.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Sep 24, 2014, 20:12:18
It appears that option-clicking on an iOS 8 file in iTunes will allow users to fix the issue without a restore. iMore has outlined the process:

    1. Download iOS 8 for iPhone 6 or iPhone 6 Plus
    2. Option (Mac) or Control (Windows) click on Update.
    3. Choose the iOS 8 firmware file you downloaded in step 1.
    4. Let iTunes do its thing
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: lozcart on Sep 24, 2014, 20:55:00
Sorry chaps had to go out for a bit, tried a hard reset a few times no joy. The update has now been pulled.

I'm just in the process of downgrading to iOS8.0 via the iMore process, wish me luck  :(
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Simon on Oct 18, 2014, 18:32:53
iTunes updated to 12.0.1.  Has a new look.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Oct 18, 2014, 21:04:31
Indeed, I guess I'm getting old fashioned, put Yosemite on the MB Pro- not sure I like these flat icons. The OS is ok except my hardware is now too old to use handoffs.  Sadly my Apple hardware that I purchased between 4- 6 years ago is still going strong and is showing very little signs of needing replacement yet.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Tacitus on Oct 19, 2014, 10:35:05
Quote from: Steve on Oct 18, 2014, 21:04:31
Indeed, I guess I'm getting old fashioned, put Yosemite on the MB Pro- not sure I like these flat icons.

I think they're designed to be viewed on a Retina, or other very hi res screen.  Quite why Ive used the thin looking Helvetica Neue rather than Lucida with its more solid look I shall never know.  But perhaps that's why I don't own a fleet of expensive cars or a Gulfstream jet.....

The real disappointment to me is that they dropped the 4-core i7 option in the new Mini.  Combine that with a decent PCI-e SSD drive and 16Gb or ram and it would make a nice machine for some light video editing.  I know they're trying to drive people to the iMac, but hi-res screen or not I really, really, can't stand the reflections.  It's bad enough on the MacBook but at least with that I have more options for moving it around.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Oct 20, 2014, 08:22:21
Quote from: Tacitus on Oct 19, 2014, 10:35:05
I think they're designed to be viewed on a Retina, or other very hi res screen.  Quite why Ive used the thin looking Helvetica Neue rather than Lucida with its more solid look I shall never know.  But perhaps that's why I don't own a fleet of expensive cars or a Gulfstream jet.....

really, can't stand the reflections.  It's bad enough on the MacBook but at least with that I have more options for moving it around.
The iMacs have a non reflective coating, well a reduced one these days, its much better tbh. No way I'm paying £1999 for a base model retina iMac though, that's just crazy. Tbh I don't mind Yosemite on my 21.5" 2011 i7 Mac, its performing better so far than Mavericks...that for me was one of the worst version of OS X I have used.  :fingers:
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Oct 20, 2014, 11:29:17
Certainly Yosemite seems much slicker on the three machines I've installed it on so far. It's older equipment so not been able to experiment with continuity/handoffs but then again I'm not replacing functional equipment to enable that.

Trying to decide what to do with iCloud Drive- possibly nothing apart from iOS backups. If I could access from Android I might consider using more than the free allocation but since google backs up all my phone photos FOC privately I'm loathed at present to spend money.
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Gary on Nov 17, 2014, 21:51:55
10.10.1 released
Title: Re: Mac software updates
Post by: Steve on Nov 17, 2014, 22:03:26
 :thumb: