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Title: A little advice
Post by: Maverich on Dec 06, 2009, 19:08:21
Good evening all  :)

Just wondering if someone can clarify the problem I seem to be having with my connection.  The main concern is online gaming when all of a sudden it becomes very 'jittery'. After doing some research I see someone mention packet loss.  Does anyone know how I can check this or fix this?

Thanks in advance  :fingers:

ADSL Link   Downstream   Upstream
Connection Speed   8128 kbps   448 kbps
Line Attenuation   31.0 db   18.0 db
Noise Margin   5.4 db   17.0 db

Not sure if you need this  :blush:
Title: Re: A little advice
Post by: Rik on Dec 06, 2009, 19:11:25
We don't. :) Ping www.idnet.net and one of your games servers. If you're not sure how to run a ping, just ask. :)
Title: Re: A little advice
Post by: Maverich on Dec 06, 2009, 19:23:37
This is what I received from idnet.net.  I'm unsure as to which server the game runs on  :-\  I also done a ping to bbc.co.uk earlier and i dropped 1 packet  :dunno:

Reply from 212.69.36.10: bytes=32 time=27ms TTL=59
Reply from 212.69.36.10: bytes=32 time=20ms TTL=59
Reply from 212.69.36.10: bytes=32 time=20ms TTL=59
Reply from 212.69.36.10: bytes=32 time=21ms TTL=59
Title: Re: A little advice
Post by: Glenn on Dec 06, 2009, 19:29:46
If you use ping 212.69.36.10 -n 100 it will ping 100 times, it should give a getter indication of packet loss rather then just 4 pings
Title: Re: A little advice
Post by: Maverich on Dec 06, 2009, 19:47:53
Thanks, does make more sense  ;D

Pinging idnet.net [212.69.36.10] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 212.69.36.10: bytes=32 time=22ms TTL=59
Reply from 212.69.36.10: bytes=32 time=20ms TTL=59
Reply from 212.69.36.10: bytes=32 time=29ms TTL=59
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Reply from 212.69.36.10: bytes=32 time=21ms TTL=59
Reply from 212.69.36.10: bytes=32 time=19ms TTL=59
Reply from 212.69.36.10: bytes=32 time=20ms TTL=59
Reply from 212.69.36.10: bytes=32 time=79ms TTL=59
Reply from 212.69.36.10: bytes=32 time=84ms TTL=59
Reply from 212.69.36.10: bytes=32 time=89ms TTL=59
Reply from 212.69.36.10: bytes=32 time=96ms TTL=59
Reply from 212.69.36.10: bytes=32 time=99ms TTL=59
Reply from 212.69.36.10: bytes=32 time=105ms TTL=59
Reply from 212.69.36.10: bytes=32 time=19ms TTL=59
Reply from 212.69.36.10: bytes=32 time=20ms TTL=59
Reply from 212.69.36.10: bytes=32 time=20ms TTL=59
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Reply from 212.69.36.10: bytes=32 time=19ms TTL=59
Reply from 212.69.36.10: bytes=32 time=20ms TTL=59
Reply from 212.69.36.10: bytes=32 time=20ms TTL=59
Reply from 212.69.36.10: bytes=32 time=19ms TTL=59
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Reply from 212.69.36.10: bytes=32 time=19ms TTL=59
Reply from 212.69.36.10: bytes=32 time=21ms TTL=59
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Reply from 212.69.36.10: bytes=32 time=24ms TTL=59
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Reply from 212.69.36.10: bytes=32 time=21ms TTL=59
Reply from 212.69.36.10: bytes=32 time=20ms TTL=59
Reply from 212.69.36.10: bytes=32 time=19ms TTL=59
Request timed out.
Reply from 212.69.36.10: bytes=32 time=19ms TTL=59
Reply from 212.69.36.10: bytes=32 time=19ms TTL=59
Reply from 212.69.36.10: bytes=32 time=20ms TTL=59
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Reply from 212.69.36.10: bytes=32 time=19ms TTL=59
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Reply from 212.69.36.10: bytes=32 time=19ms TTL=59
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Reply from 212.69.36.10: bytes=32 time=20ms TTL=59
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Reply from 212.69.36.10: bytes=32 time=21ms TTL=59
Reply from 212.69.36.10: bytes=32 time=20ms TTL=59

Ping statistics for 212.69.36.10:
    Packets: Sent = 100, Received = 99, Lost = 1 (1% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 18ms, Maximum = 105ms, Average = 24ms
Title: Re: A little advice
Post by: Glenn on Dec 06, 2009, 20:08:57
QuoteReply from 212.69.36.10: bytes=32 time=79ms TTL=59
Reply from 212.69.36.10: bytes=32 time=84ms TTL=59
Reply from 212.69.36.10: bytes=32 time=89ms TTL=59
Reply from 212.69.36.10: bytes=32 time=96ms TTL=59
Reply from 212.69.36.10: bytes=32 time=99ms TTL=59
Reply from 212.69.36.10: bytes=32 time=105ms TTL=59

That will push up your latency in game, there is also 1 packet lost. All this maybe that the server you have 'pinged' is busy, as a ping packet has very low priority.
Title: Re: A little advice
Post by: Maverich on Dec 06, 2009, 20:29:42
That sounds fair enough, maybe not a problem with packet loss...I am also finding that loading small pictures on the internet taking time like i'm on a dial up connection, then all of a sudden it speeds up again and no problem at all.  This ties into what is happening on xbox live, one min the game is running fine then for about 20-30 secs it really struggles.  Any ideas?
Title: Re: A little advice
Post by: Rik on Dec 07, 2009, 11:47:29
It could be a 'hot VP' (exchange congestion) or VLAN issue (the way your circuit has been built.

Do some speed tests on the BT tester, say morning, lunchtime and evening, plus a few sets of -n 100 pings, and then let support have the data, they can take it from there.
Title: Re: A little advice
Post by: Maverich on Dec 09, 2009, 18:00:15
Thanks Rik  :)
Title: Re: A little advice
Post by: Rik on Dec 09, 2009, 18:02:39
NP. :) Hope it's sorted soon.