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Title: IPv4 allocations-not many left
Post by: Steve on Jan 19, 2010, 18:28:04
ZDNet has reported
http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9595_22-385195.html

It looks like the previous estimates of 2012 may not be correct, we could run out of IPv4 address allocations sooner especially if there is a big demand this year.
Title: Re: IPv4 allocations-not many left
Post by: Rik on Jan 19, 2010, 18:30:08
IDNet are ready for v6.
Title: Re: IPv4 allocations-not many left
Post by: Simon on Jan 19, 2010, 18:36:54
(http://si6776.www.idnet.com/smileys/pray.gif)  :evil:
Title: Re: IPv4 allocations-not many left
Post by: Rik on Jan 19, 2010, 18:38:02
 ;D
Title: Re: IPv4 allocations-not many left
Post by: Colin Burns on Jan 20, 2010, 19:51:06
suppose the question is what happened to IP v5
Title: Re: IPv4 allocations-not many left
Post by: Steve on Jan 20, 2010, 19:57:58
I think odd IPv are experimental
Title: Re: IPv4 allocations-not many left
Post by: cmeerw on Jan 21, 2010, 08:13:27
While IDNet might be ready for IPv6, parts of the BT network still suffers from packet corruption issues for small IPv6 packets, see http://aaisp.net.uk/news-ipv6.html
Title: Re: IPv4 allocations-not many left
Post by: Steve on Jan 21, 2010, 08:27:02
And are we surprised? Sadly we are not! ::)
Title: Re: IPv4 allocations-not many left
Post by: Gary on Jan 21, 2010, 08:53:22
Trouble is how many IPV6 capable home routers are there out there?
Title: Re: IPv4 allocations-not many left
Post by: somanyholes on Jan 21, 2010, 09:33:26
Unplug your IPv4 fridges now :)
Title: Re: IPv4 allocations-not many left
Post by: Rik on Jan 21, 2010, 09:36:10
Not to mention TVs, Bluray players etc. :)
Title: Re: IPv4 allocations-not many left
Post by: Gary on Jan 21, 2010, 09:51:22
Quote from: somanyholes on Jan 21, 2010, 09:33:26
Unplug your IPv4 fridges now :)
That's just scary, I can see that going wrong and ending up with 22 pints of milk due to a bug  ::)
Title: Re: IPv4 allocations-not many left
Post by: Rik on Jan 21, 2010, 09:55:26
Drink them all and you'll probably get a bug. ;)
Title: Re: IPv4 allocations-not many left
Post by: somanyholes on Jan 21, 2010, 10:35:53
or the wrong fish or meat, that would give some on here a heart failure  ;D
Title: Re: IPv4 allocations-not many left
Post by: Rik on Jan 21, 2010, 10:52:15
You called?
Title: Re: IPv4 allocations-not many left
Post by: wecpcs on Apr 05, 2010, 12:53:33
Quote from: Gary on Jan 21, 2010, 08:53:22
Trouble is how many IPV6 capable home routers are there out there?

I have just been looking into this since I noticed somewhere that AAISP are dropping IPv4 completely and on the Netgear forum a moderator has stated that no Netgear routers support IPv6. I can see many problems ahead.

Colin
Title: Re: IPv4 allocations-not many left
Post by: Rik on Apr 05, 2010, 12:55:40
I think you're right, Colin. Look how slow router manufacturers have been at adopting gigabit ports. :(
Title: Re: IPv4 allocations-not many left
Post by: adamr8965 on Apr 05, 2010, 13:23:16
i have know idea what ipv's are  :dunno:
Title: Re: IPv4 allocations-not many left
Post by: Rik on Apr 05, 2010, 14:39:37
We are all uniquely identified while on the net by an IP address, that's how traffic knows where to go when you click on a link, for example. The current version is 4, hence IPv4, but we are rapidly running out of these numbers (much as we ran out of phone numbers in the UK). The cure is to move to IPv6, which uses a 'bigger' number to identify people and hence can provide the extra addresses.
Title: Re: IPv4 allocations-not many left
Post by: adamr8965 on Apr 05, 2010, 14:45:38
i see, so there's no problem swapping over then.
Title: Re: IPv4 allocations-not many left
Post by: Rik on Apr 05, 2010, 14:46:34
None. I don't know whether everyone will swap or just new numbers will be in v6 format, but it should be painless for the user.
Title: Re: IPv4 allocations-not many left
Post by: adamr8965 on Apr 05, 2010, 14:47:18
Cool,
Title: Re: IPv4 allocations-not many left
Post by: adamr8965 on Apr 05, 2010, 14:48:04
Another sign rik thats there to many people in the world.
Title: Re: IPv4 allocations-not many left
Post by: Rik on Apr 05, 2010, 14:53:22
Or, at least, that there's too many on the 'net. :)
Title: Re: IPv4 allocations-not many left
Post by: adamr8965 on Apr 05, 2010, 14:57:21
There about 60million households in the uk, how many have internet?
Title: Re: IPv4 allocations-not many left
Post by: Rik on Apr 05, 2010, 14:59:27
I don't know the official figure, tbh, but based on a 'survey' of neighbours, friends and relatives, I'd say about 2/3rds.
Title: Re: IPv4 allocations-not many left
Post by: adamr8965 on Apr 05, 2010, 15:03:57
that's alot even my gran has got the internet and she in her late 70's
Title: Re: IPv4 allocations-not many left
Post by: Steve on Apr 05, 2010, 15:04:33
GB will know? >:D
Title: Re: IPv4 allocations-not many left
Post by: Rik on Apr 05, 2010, 15:07:15
Team GB or miserable old git GB? ;)
Title: Re: IPv4 allocations-not many left
Post by: adamr8965 on Apr 05, 2010, 15:10:04
old git gb maybe.
Title: Re: IPv4 allocations-not many left
Post by: Rik on Apr 05, 2010, 15:10:50
Very likely. :)
Title: Re: IPv4 allocations-not many left
Post by: Rik on Apr 05, 2010, 15:13:36
The official figure is 63%, so not a bad guess on my part:

http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?ID=8
Title: Re: IPv4 allocations-not many left
Post by: adamr8965 on Apr 05, 2010, 15:15:54
how many of them are with talktalk and sky.
Title: Re: IPv4 allocations-not many left
Post by: Rik on Apr 05, 2010, 15:16:48
Too many. ;D
Title: Re: IPv4 allocations-not many left
Post by: adamr8965 on Apr 05, 2010, 15:19:35
correct answer :thumb:
Title: Re: IPv4 allocations-not many left
Post by: Simon on Apr 05, 2010, 18:34:52
Whxt happened to IPv5?
Title: Re: IPv4 allocations-not many left
Post by: Rik on Apr 05, 2010, 18:35:15
It was tried and abandoned.
Title: Re: IPv4 allocations-not many left
Post by: adamr8965 on Apr 05, 2010, 18:44:33
why what happened with it?
Title: Re: IPv4 allocations-not many left
Post by: Rik on Apr 05, 2010, 18:51:34
I don't know. It didn't prove robust enough or, more likely, the growth in connections indicated it wouldn't last long.
Title: Re: IPv4 allocations-not many left
Post by: Gary on Apr 06, 2010, 01:42:41
Quote from: wecpcs on Apr 05, 2010, 12:53:33
I have just been looking into this since I noticed somewhere that AAISP are dropping IPv4 completely.
Colin
I think that was an April fool AAISP style  ;) Along with Apples iHTML  ;D
Title: Re: IPv4 allocations-not many left
Post by: wecpcs on Apr 06, 2010, 14:16:06
Quote from: Gary on Apr 06, 2010, 01:42:41
I think that was an April fool AAISP style  ;) Along with Apples iHTML  ;D

I think you are right as the item regarding it has now disappeared from their News section

Colin