Firefox 4 is out.
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/new/
The number of downloads can been seen here. http://glow.mozilla.org/
Any bad reports yet?
A few of my add-ons do not work. They will be updated soon. Seems ok so far, only used it for a few hours.
Thanks.
Google opt out doesn't work. I'm stunned, no really. Okay, I'm lying.
Okay, just installed. This looks like a very old version of Opera I tried once, many years ago. How strange.
In what way, Niall?
Just the layout. An old version of Opera (hmm, or am I thinking of Netscape?) it has the tab at the top, all squared off with a smaller bar at the top. I haven't had a play about with it yet, but I do like the orange tab at the top containing everything. That's nice and neat :)
I shall have to dabble.
Yes, my descriptive powers are not the best today. I went to the gym for the first time in 4 months last night, and physio today. I'm slightly off my face on painkillers :D
That's OK, I'm out of it on diazepam.
Bloody hell - call the drugs squad! ;D
;D
Call them what? :whistle:
What you like, as long as they have some! ;)
No need for them to bring anything, I have it all here. ;D
If you have OCD you will end up putting your buttons all over firefox up down left or right ::) and still not be happy, you can have them all on the left hand side as in 3.6 but it is less cluttered with them on the right, the do not track feature is pretty pointless as I don't think websites support it, I just use the easy privacy sub with adblock plus which works fine with FF 4
The status bar has vanished and is now only available via another flipping add-on!
The philosopher Charlie Brown sums up my opinion on this version of Firefox:
Aaugh indeed. I might learn to like this version or I could completely hate it. The URL that pops up in the left hand corner every time I mouse over a link is really horribly distracting on dark content and I nearly had a hissy fit when Firebug came up as incompatible (something I use for hours most days). Luckily I was offered an upgrade.
The one stop shop menu seems like a good idea as does the built in spill chucker which seems to work with all the web based editors I've tried so far. I'll reserve judgement for now I think.
Getting used to it, adblock plus needs updating as it has an issues with where it wants to put its icon ::) having FF run in 64 bit is nice but comes with a few mime bugs but I'm sure a point release will sort some of these out, the spell checker is much improved and I'm seting in now after getting used to the home button on the right hand side, I just want to remove the bookmarks button in the tool bar as in OS X I already have that above Firefox anyway, early days but a improvement in many ways and so much faster at rendering, although it still uses a chunk of ram. Pinning tabs is a nice touch say leaving your webmail of whatever pinned and it changes colour when its updated is a neat idea.
Justina was a bit confused though as she naturally wants to go to the left for the home button, but it is less cluttered the way its laid out by default.
The first thing I did was move the home button and bookmark list. I don't think I'd ever have got used to the default placement. Definitely an improvement in my book as well, I think I'm going to like this version quite a lot.
I'm liking it so far, the speed at which pages render is really good.
Quote from: zappaDPJ on Mar 23, 2011, 14:40:14
The first thing I did was move the home button and bookmark list. I don't think I'd ever have got used to the default placement. Definitely an improvement in my book as well, I think I'm going to like this version quite a lot.
Does it go in as an upgrade, Zap, or do you need to import all your settings from v3?
I installed it at work, it seems to overwrite V3 and take it's settings
It imported all my settings, addons, and bookmarks from 3.6 Rik.
I installed from a downloaded file Rik (full install I would think) and it was the same for me as it was from Glenn. The executable overwrote my current installation, kept all my settings and offered to update outdated plugins :)
Thanks, guys. :thumb:
Quote from: Rik on Mar 22, 2011, 17:42:03
Any bad reports yet?
My Norton Toolbar does not work with it (where I use the Identity Safe all the time), so promptly went back to the previous version. So I only had it on for less than 30 secs.
olin
Quote from: wecpcs on Mar 23, 2011, 23:09:40
My Norton Toolbar does not work with it
Perfect opportunity to get rid of a truly nasty piece of software.
Norton that is.
When did you last use Norton? I have just moved from Norton 2011 to Norton 360 and both are superb. I would rather keep Norton than use a browser that will not run properly. ;D
So you have removed IE9? :hide: :hehe:
Quote from: wecpcs on Mar 23, 2011, 23:09:40
My Norton Toolbar does not work with it (where I use the Identity Safe all the time), so promptly went back to the previous version. So I only had it on for less than 30 secs.
olin
Toolbars are the work of satan ;)
Have to admit, toolbars aren't my bag either. I'd rather have something less cluttersome and intrusive.
Firefox 4 does not appear to give me any advantage and has changed a layout we were familiar with and preferences and options do not enable me to rearrange. What is the safest way to reinstall Firefox 3.6?
I quite like having more of the screen devoted to the page.
Quote from: tehidyman on Mar 24, 2011, 13:14:34
Firefox 4 does not appear to give me any advantage and has changed a layout we were familiar with and preferences and options do not enable me to rearrange. What is the safest way to reinstall Firefox 3.6?
You can change ff4 to look like 3.6 if you want you can customise most of it. 3.6 is very out of date really, and looks old, Chrome and IE9 and Opera look like FF4 now. you can have your bookmarks toolbar etc move your home button around back to where you like, you can even put icons in the tab bar and there are add-ons should you want a status bar. Like Mitch I like the uncluttered look, pinning tabs is great and its just so much faster.
Not sure if you can just install 3.6 over 4 i would think remove it which keeps your profile and then install 3.6 google and see. Realise though that 3.6 in the end will be a dead end as 4 will replace it eventually and then 5 some day.
Why do the companies insist on copying the worse of each others GUI designs? They copy the best features, but worse look and feel. :slap:
Fire fox 3 was great for tabbing and layout. Then Internet Explorer copied it, and did so badly. I hate the IE layout. So what to Mozilla do with firefox 4? Copy the horrid design of IE. :(
Guess I'll have to play around with settings then.
Quote from: Gary on Mar 24, 2011, 08:07:12
Toolbars are the work of satan ;)
I have to agree with this which is why I like the current Firefox layout. Every toolbar is a line of lost content and in generally a row of rarely used or replicated features. I'm still rather liking Firefox 4 and I've now switched back to it from IE 9 for everyday browsing.
Agree on toolbars, only two I have or had were Nectar to collect points (but does not work on FF4 at the min) and Netcraft which shows me what country an IP resolves to and the registered IP address owner.
Quote from: zappaDPJ on Mar 23, 2011, 14:40:14
The first thing I did was move the home button and bookmark list
I am struggling to move my home icon from extreme right to somewhere on the left. Help appreciated. Managed to sort all the rest.
Right click above the address bar, then from the drop down list, select customize, you can then drag, add or remove items.
This is where I placed mine, right click the icon, hit customise and moved to the new location. What I couldn't do for some reason is put the Bookmarks icon next to it but I was happy to have it below that location in the end.
(http://www.idnetters.co.uk/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=25241.0;attach=9873;image)
Have moved home. Thanks guys :solved:
Quote from: zappaDPJ on Mar 24, 2011, 14:57:29
I have to agree with this which is why I like the current Firefox layout. Every toolbar is a line of lost content and in generally a row of rarely used or replicated features. I'm still rather liking Firefox 4 and I've now switched back to it from IE 9 for everyday browsing.
Of all people my mother had 50% of the screen space taken up by toolbars. I tried to ask what it was. She said "It comes like that does it not?" Or "But the smiley face buttons". I did not agree or disagree. (As it's a lost cause IMO. :( )
Personally. I hate em. :mad:
What has happened to the tabs? They have added all the buttons onto the tab itself? I thought that was a "window". The point of tabs is they are "in" the "window". If you put them on the top, they become "windows". Oh, I'm getting annoyed at GUIs again... gonna need to have a seat and calm down... :rant2:
Time for a bucket of champagne to take the pain away, Ben. ;)
I've been using it quite a bit today and I'm liking it.
If they are going to copy chrome, I may as well move on to that. ;D
Set my toolbar up so everything is on the one (FF menu, buttons, tabs and location bar) - screenshot is Linux but I have a shared profile (and so the same is true on Windows). Apart from that one line, the whole screen is devoted to content, just how it should be :)
I like FF4.
Steve
I've now tamed the beast and - hand on heart - this version of Firefox is the bestest browser it's been my pleasure to use.
Here's mine
(http://psp83.co.uk/pics/screenshots/firefox4.jpg)
Made a few changes to the userChrome.css file to move the tabs up (where the firefox button/menu was)
The way it handles open tabs on restart seems quite broken - FF3 was very good at figuring out what caused it to close and restoring just the right stuff; FF4 doesn't seem to understand the different between "user closed individual windows" and "system shut down". The "Restore Previous Session" just about works for the latter, but it's a manual action and seems a retrograde step. Worse still I manually closed a load of tabs on my work PC before I shut down last night, including some popup phpMyAdmin windows, and when I started it up today it spontaneously tried to pop them all up again. ::)
It also looks quite different on XP than W7 which feels wrong (but is arguably right ::) ).
I decided I needed to change it back to look like 3.6 but I like tabs on top, I use the bookmark bar for Justina but hated the show bookmarks at the end which took up space, so I unticked show bookmarks tool bar removed show bookmarks from it in that mode, then re-opened the bookmarks toolbar and it was gone. Since the Mac has the firefox menu above the browser having two lots of bookmarks was not intuitive, much happier with the way it looks now.
well I went to download it yesterday then didnt have time so stopped the download.fired up today and it appears to have restarted the d/l and just updated itself which I wasnt going to do until things settled with it.FF never did that before always asked first.
Dont know if I like it yet.whats the orange FF button you seem to have, I dont see that :dunno: Haven't noticed much change or benefit yet but will keep trying.
I was going to try Opera as my son is using it at the moment and he seems to really like it,says much quicker than FF.Any one use it
Placido Domingo does, Baz. ;) I think Dorset was a user, but he's not been around for a while.
Quote from: Rik on Mar 26, 2011, 18:25:13
Placido Domingo does, Baz. ;) I think Dorset was a user, but he's not been around for a while.
:slap: :slap: :slap:
that has got to be a cue for 'Groaner of the week' dear me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:ithank:
dont feel good about it Rik :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
With Queen and the Marx Brothers, how could I not? ;D
If it's more than a feeling, go to Boston
I don't like tea. :)
Quote from: Baz on Mar 26, 2011, 18:23:04
well I went to download it yesterday then didnt have time so stopped the download.fired up today and it appears to have restarted the d/l and just updated itself which I wasnt going to do until things settled with it.FF never did that before always asked first.
Dont know if I like it yet.whats the orange FF button you seem to have, I dont see that :dunno: Haven't noticed much change or benefit yet but will keep trying.
I was going to try Opera as my son is using it at the moment and he seems to really like it,says much quicker than FF.Any one use it
Considering how much faster it is baz I'm surprised, you can pin tabs so say you have webmail open you can right click and pin it open and when it updates it turns blue, it is a very different beast really, it has blocked the hole where websites can read your history as well, uses a updated jave script engine, there are loads of new things that make it so much better than 3.6. On OSX it runs as a 64 bit browser as well and pretty much opens instantly and web pages load very fast, go and google all the changes in FF 4.0 and then that may help you get to play with them you can customise it to look like 3.6 if you wish as well, it also has a much better add-on manager I think. You also need to have good graphics drivers to get the full benefits of hardware acceleration as well, there is a list of cards supported on their web site. :)
still looking through it now.Also trying Opera and the similar feature that has to pin tabs is Tab Stacking which is far easier than FF way, and it seems better.just drag the tab you want on top of another tab and thats it, they are stacked.mouse over a stack gives you thumbnails of each page in that stack.
easy
Quote from: Baz on Mar 27, 2011, 13:13:55
still looking through it now.Also trying Opera and the similar feature that has to pin tabs is Tab Stacking which is far easier than FF way, and it seems better.just drag the tab you want on top of another tab and thats it, they are stacked.mouse over a stack gives you thumbnails of each page in that stack.
easy
Opera is a good browser I just never got on with it, I prefer FF and the extensions I use. Each person has their own favourite though :)
I hate FF4, so I've gone back to 3.6.16. For me the claim that FF4 is six times faster than FF3 doesn't hold water.
I never thought I'd say this but IE9 beats FF4 hands down in terms of intuitive user functions. :(
If I get really desperate, I'll try Simon's Sea Monkey. ;D
Quote from: JohnH on Mar 27, 2011, 14:32:17
I hate FF4, so I've gone back to 3.6.16. For me the claim that FF4 is six times faster than FF3 doesn't hold water.
I never thought I'd say this but IE9 beats FF4 hands down in terms of intuitive user functions. :(
If I get really desperate, I'll try Simon's Sea Monkey. ;D
Really don't understand the problem, you can make FF4 look like FF3.6 just customise it, takes a few minutes that's all, it is much faster thats obvious, but I'm not using a stopwatch its fast enough for me anyway, I don't really care about milliseconds or nanoseconds for my browsing habits. Its almost exactly like the FF3.6 user interface apart from the add-on manager which is I think better. Each to their own though. :)
I happen to like a menu bar and the one that they have come up with in FF4 is a stumpy little affair, that bears no relation to FF3 and makes the page look imbalanced.
I agree with gizmo about the way FF4 handles tabs after a browser restart - FF3 is much better.
Glad you and Justine like FF4 though - each to their own, as you say. ;)
One thing's for sure, we'll never all agree on a browser or OS. ;)
why dont I see the orange Firefox tab/button in the top left :dunno:
Quote from: Baz on Mar 27, 2011, 21:08:02
why dont I see the orange Firefox tab/button in the top left :dunno:
got it...... it was because I had the menu bar showing.take that away and the orange button shows :thumb:
I still can't see the orange Firefox tab/button :dunno:
Oh wait, It's because I'm using IE9 ;D
I have spent a happy hour trying Firefox out and I still can't see what is supposed to make it special. :eyebrow: But I must admit it's nearly as good as IE9 and better than Chrome.
I've just tried to access some of my CCTV sites using Firefox but it would not let me, I have no trouble doing this with IE9 but with Firefox it will not let me download the settings/software.
sorry not read all the thread. I installed it yesterday on my macbook, and found it buggy. Was slow and kept crashing. I had no addon's installed either, so not them. Gone back to previous version
Quote from: Den on Mar 27, 2011, 22:09:16
I've just tried to access some of my CCTV sites using Firefox but it would not let me, I have no trouble doing this with IE9 but with Firefox it will not let me download the settings/software.
It might require ActveX or Silverlight plugins. You can get ActiveX for Firefox, but not sure about Silverlight. Some things are "Microfost/Windows/InternetExplorer" only. :/
I know in the past clients who wanted to access CCTV systems had to download IE as they would not run on others, I just assumed with all the praise heaped on Foxtrot I mean Firefox they had got their act together. :eyebrow:
I've noticed this problem with a couple of older PC game trailers. This sort of thing only seems to happen until sites start supporting newer codecs, etc. Although it could purely be a browser issue, I've not seen it on sites with new videos. Like Steam, etc. Everything they've been posting seems to work, and BBC site and other news sites, etc.
I haven't really looked into why it happens as it's only happened with 2 things I've tried to look at recently.
I can access a number of the CCTV sites I have installed and require to do this as part of my contract. But I can only seem to do this with IE and a number of customers who use other browsers have had to install IE as well. :po:
I remember a similar problem years ago when IE used to display things that were encoded on sites incorrectly, but Firefox and a couple of other browsers wouldn't load the pages as they didn't allow for dodgy coding.
Like I say, I've no idea if this is the case, but it does seem odd that some things aren't working after the update. It could be either reason really, without looking into it.
Yes. IE has access to things other companies/software does not. Just how Macs and Windows are not compatible. Diesel and Petrol are not.
It's not a limit on the technology, nor the programmers or software. It's a limit on the contracts, patents, and ownership. Just as HP and Epson try to lock people out of the ink cartridge market, Microsoft try to lock (or have no reason to open up) their extra features in IE9.
In principle I refuse to use Silverlight. If you cannot open up your product, I don't want to use it!
Some sites are still coded for IE I noticed some CCTV sites say IE only, as I see it that's either coding for the masses and hoping you get it right, but it does assume the universe uses Windows of they are just being a bit lazy, either could be the case. Opera, Chrome and Safari all have had the same problems, as well as IE not rendering, its generally the webmasters site not the browser, but not always as has been pointed out. Indescribable Excrement IE is still I believe losing to other browsers though even though version 9 is much better, but it took a kick to get it there.
Personally, especially with commercial sites, if I encounter any that will not work properly other than with IE I send them a polite email informing them that they will not receive any business from me until such time as they stop making their product exclusive to Windows and IE users.
I don't know if it works, since I rarely re-visit after a browser failure of this nature.
Having said that, the only site I've found in the last 12 months that doesn't work is Namesco's speedtest, and this isn't s FF issue (it works fine on FF Windows) but is that they appear to have coded their site for Windows users.
Steve
The namesco speedtest is ok on OS X
Maybe they code some sites to give the best user experience? IE is much better at handling multimedia than Firefox used to be
I thought that was a post from Den for a second, Mitch. ;D
He does talk a lot of sense.
Does that mean FF4 is now better at handling multimedia than it used to be? Or does the differing abilities relate to the performance with regard to MS proprietary multimedia extensions with which IE should I feel perform better.
Quote from: pctech on Mar 29, 2011, 18:01:55
He does talk a lot of sense.
Careful, he'll start framing your posts. ;D
Just because I don't hate MS for the sake of it and am willing to try before I reject (if I do) >:D
Use whatever does the particular job well.
Winodws for all round stuff, Macs for art stuff, Linux for servers and the Apple Xserve for ? ;D
Oh, windows does art stuff too!
I installed IE9 before to see what it was like, as I'm off work ill. Apparently I have this lovely noro virus thing. Joy.
Anyway, on install it wanted me to turn off all my AV & anti spyware/malware protection (like that's going to happen), so I just rebooted instead. On launch the first thing I noticed was that it isn't the junk filled, bloated mess that IE8 was. I didn't get much further than that as I was a bit ill, and went back to bed.
How's that for a review? ;D
So, in short, IE9 made you sick. ;D
Quote from: pctech on Mar 29, 2011, 21:02:09
Use whatever does the particular job well.
Winodws for all round stuff, Macs for art stuff, Linux for servers and the Apple Xserve for ? ;D
Macs do all round stuff as well Mitch because Apples are round too ;D
Cor! ;D
:ithank:
Quote from: pctech on Mar 29, 2011, 17:57:33
Maybe they code some sites to give the best user experience? IE is much better at handling multimedia than Firefox used to be
I find the opposite. IE loaded up every piece of unwanted video or music and plaster it over my screen. In Firefox I use AdBlock Plus to remove anything I don't want. :)
Can't beat getting plastered from time to time ;D
Oh I don't know though... :evil:
;D
MS and IE keep getting slated because they keep bringing out updates so they must be very faulty.
On that bases Firefox must be the best.
Oh wait, I have just found this.
Firefox 5 comes out on the 21st june so then it really will be the best.
Hang on, wait again.
Firefox 6 comes out on the 16th of August so now it will rule the world.
Hang on, hang on wait again.
Mike Belzner Mozila's Director of Firefox has stated that Firefox 7 will come out in 2011 :doh: :stars: I think I will stay with IE9 for now, ;D
Rather have the bugs spotted and fixed quick than long delays for MS.
So why don't they correct them for version 6? It smacks of pushing some thing out even though you know it's not ready for use. If MS did this you would all be up in arms. ;)
I personally don't mind too much if they are not charging for it.
If they were of course that would be a different ball game.
I thought Microsoft did constantly do that though. Release things that aren't ready. After all there are patches every month for something, and the browser has updates too, viw windows update. Or at least used to. I haven't really looked at what the updates are unless it's something I'm interested in. Otherwise I'll just download it after quickly glancing over it, so can't remember what came out when :D
Indeed and as software is, for the moment at least, still written by humans errors can creep in.
I maybe wrong of course but I think the point Den was making was that MS does not replace versions as rapidly as Mozilla but as I say, provided it remains free.
I was just surprised that the are announcing so many upgrades to Firefox in such a short time. Why couldn't they just say that they are going to correct any errors by releasing updates and bring out an updated version later in the year. A new version implies a complete rewrite not just a update. :dunno:
Pass Den
Sales? Um. I mean downloads. A new number = better. Obviously. ;)
Quote from: Technical Ben on Apr 25, 2011, 17:24:05
Sales? Um. I mean downloads. A new number = better. Obviously. ;)
That's what I was wondering. Maybe they get investors, and the sooner they bring a new version out, the more it appeases the board :shrug:
Mozilla Corp is a non profit
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Corporation
Quote from: Den on Apr 25, 2011, 16:00:07
I was just surprised that the are announcing so many upgrades to Firefox in such a short time. Why couldn't they just say that they are going to correct any errors by releasing updates and bring out an updated version later in the year. A new version implies a complete rewrite not just a update. :dunno:
They are following Chrome, each one will contain new features, there will not be stability or security updates between each update as there used to be unless its absolutely needed.
I have been trying it. unfortunately it still takes quite an age to start up so i think il stick with chrome! :thumb:
Quote from: mrapoc on Apr 25, 2011, 21:09:22
I have been trying it. unfortunately it still takes quite an age to start up so i think il stick with chrome! :thumb:
Mine starts in seconds literally on OS X have you got hardware acceleration turned on?
Yeh its on
Firefox is all default settings. just took 10 seconds to open. Chrome took 2. Its always been the case on both the laptop and desktop
I wonder if one of the extensions or whatever is causing the issue :dunno:
I have changed from FF3.6 to FF4 on WinXP and Mint Linux 10. I find that V4 opens more quickly now.
I have seen slow FF opening in the past which I have usually traced to an add-on. I wonder if one of your add-ons is less compatible with FF4 and is causing issue?
FF was always more heavyweight than Chrome but not to the degree that it would stop me using it.
Would agree it sounds like an add-on.
There should be an update to day I think to 4.0.1 that fixes a few issues, next update will be Firefox 5 unless some major security holes are found.
I was referring to a freshly installed firefox. I never used to use addons anyway as adblock seems to make browsing sluggish too.
maybe im just anal about milliseconds of difference :P
its all that router stuff.
You start to count in milliseconds.
Quote from: mrapoc on Apr 25, 2011, 23:10:44
Yeh its on
Firefox is all default settings. just took 10 seconds to open. Chrome took 2. Its always been the case on both the laptop and desktop
Its really weird you say Firefox takes an age to start, for me its a few seconds, that's with Adblock Plus using two subs easy list and easy privacy, which also does not seem to slow browsing down, maybe its not Firefox but your Graphics Drivers as firefox really needs the most up to date, but I get the feeling yours are anyway. dunno: maybe its different on windows to OS X but I find 4.0.1 very stable and a much improved browser over the older 3 series. Chrome is just to google for me, like Android, its how much privacy are you giving up to that company, although at the rate the internet is going that may be a moot point soon anyway ;)
I've got a 5850 so it shouldnt be that. It also happened on my older system with a 8800gt and a e6300 rather than my quad. Chrome is instant, firefox took at least 5 seconds. For that reason, and that reason alone, I'm out! :P
mine takes about 3 seconds thats with some add ons too its not that slow but may be you are just noticing it now compared to chrome.what about things like checking if its the default browser on start up or having it start going to a home page.
I dont have any of these set,sounds nothing but lots of little things might slow it down.
My firefox loads instantly, with about 5 add ons, and the normal plugins from other things too. :shrug:
weird.
im happy with my chrome for now anyway, bookmark sync and built in ad blocker :)
Quote from: mrapoc on May 02, 2011, 10:38:35
I've got a 5850 so it shouldnt be that. It also happened on my older system with a 8800gt and a e6300 rather than my quad. Chrome is instant, firefox took at least 5 seconds. For that reason, and that reason alone, I'm out! :P
5 seconds? Wow that is fast.
;)
Pedantics aside, I mean, it is rather fast. Perhaps your individual setup has to do with it? Something unrelated is causing the slow down?
For example I set Win7 to "open new window as new explorer instance (folder, not IE)". So it takes longer to load, but with each folder an individual process, I can open 3 or 4, and they load pictures in tandem. Or if one crashes, because of a buggy preview image or software, it does not take out the rest of windows. (Well, it does not anyhow, but it means I have 1 window close, instead of 4 when I get a crash)
Possibly. I mean everything is standard really. In this case I tried after a fresh install and all is default. Maybe its more the fact of chrome being fast than firefox being slow :red:
Quote from: mrapoc on May 02, 2011, 15:35:25
Possibly. I mean everything is standard really. In this case I tried after a fresh install and all is default. Maybe its more the fact of chrome being fast than firefox being slow :red:
Mine does not take 5 seconds, not that it really bothers me if its 2 or 3 or whatever, but whats your AV set up?
Used to use eset, now onto microsoft security essentials
Quote from: mrapoc on May 02, 2011, 20:50:59
Used to use eset, now onto microsoft security essentials
Have anything else? tbh if Chrome works use it, what works for your system is always best anyway :)
4? It's onto 8 already!
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/mozilla-firefox-8-browser-wars-download-update,news-36940.html
Quote from: Technical Ben on Nov 08, 2011, 00:12:44
4? It's onto 8 already!
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/mozilla-firefox-8-browser-wars-download-update,news-36940.html
This is a thread from May! The official release is not until later today.
I've stopped using FF I got fed up with it crashing 4 or more times a day. I'm now a happy Chrome user.
Quote from: Gary on Nov 08, 2011, 08:22:15
This is a thread from May! The official release is not until later today.
Up until last year, I'd not expect a new release until next may. Only incrementals before then. :dunno:
Imagine the Milk man coming around with "new improved" milk each week. What animal would it come from next? You'd start to get concerned. :laugh:
What's a milk man? :)
Ask Sue ;D
:laugh:
Quote from: Glenn on Nov 08, 2011, 08:41:15
I've stopped using FF I got fed up with it crashing 4 or more times a day. I'm now a happy Chrome user.
Something must have been wrong with your profile, or extensions, stable here on version 8 version 7 was good too 6 was fine etc...
Quote from: Technical Ben on Nov 08, 2011, 09:10:49
Up until last year, I'd not expect a new release until next may. Only incrementals before then. :dunno:
Imagine the Milk man coming around with "new improved" milk each week. What animal would it come from next? You'd start to get concerned. :laugh:
Not really much point to this post, Firefox updates like Chrome now pretty much. End of subject really.
Like Glenn I've had a lot of issues with FF not responding or in some cases bailing out midway while watching streamed content. However the last version seemed a lot more robust so I'm hoping this version is even better. I'd find it almost impossible to switch away from it anyway as I use it daily for web development.
Quote from: Glenn on Nov 08, 2011, 08:41:15
I've stopped using FF I got fed up with it crashing 4 or more times a day. I'm now a happy Chrome user.
Same here Glenn. I was a Firefox user for years until it started freezing on me. Of course I deleted my profile and started again but it kept freezing and the Mozilla forum slowly started filling up with people having the same issue.
Three weeks ago I switched to Chrome and I wish I'd done it sooner. The only thing I miss from FF is Downthemall but I can live without it for now.
v8 seems nippier, I haven't seen many issues with v4-7, but it may be down to combinations of add-ons and other software, of course.
I've not had any problems through 4-7. 3.x used to hang sometimes and I've not yet been on the pc to upgrade to 8 :)
yes 8 does seem quicker.dont see any other changes at the moment.
I still dont like how it auto magically updates without asking what it you dont want the new version
Mine at home asked first :)
I could never sort it before but found it now.
Dont have auto updates ticked I always check manually so wondered why it was doing so.
In tools/options/advanced/then update tab are 3 tick boxes for auto check for updates to firefox,add ons,search engines.the bit under that 'when updates to firefox are found' is greyed out but the 'automatically download and install' box was ticked, so I presumed it not possible to change that part,but if you tick the top box to select 'Firefox' this makes the bottom section usable, you can then change the button to whatever you want,'ask me what I want to do' in my case,then untick the top firefox box and it greys out again but retains your selection.
so simple :red:
Hmm, uh, maybe it's time to upgrade from 1.5. ???
I've noticed that the latest version of FF contains some quite important bug fixes including a fix for a right click issue that affected the TinyMCE editor and some CSS rendering problems also appear to have fixed.
In general it appears to be faster and I've not had it crash yet.