Frequent disconnects

Rik · May 18, 2007, 08:47:23

Well, the finger is definitely beginning to point!

ReDGryphoN · May 18, 2007, 09:02:43

Yes I think it has !

All you have to do now is find a router that suits you and as I had discovered everyone has an opinion !!

ReD

MAABOF

Rik · May 18, 2007, 09:08:24

Quote from: ReDGryphoN on May 18, 2007, 09:02:43
All you have to do now is find a router that suits you and as I had discovered everyone has an opinion !!

Life was easier before Max, it was pretty simple to recommend routers. I tend to feel they should now be available on trial, so we could see how they run with a particular line.

ReDGryphoN · May 18, 2007, 09:22:14

I totally agree,

There appears to be no "best option" especially if like me you are on a long line with high attentuation.

I was lucky to be able to try 2 and mistakenly buy another type (only to sell it on again) before I got to the one I have. To many chipsets, software GUI's, firmwares, etc etc

Best bet is to see if you can borrow one from someone you know

ReD

JSAWBSAW

Rik · May 18, 2007, 09:34:36

Quote from: ReDGryphoN on May 18, 2007, 09:22:14
There appears to be no "best option" especially if like me you are on a long line with high attentuation.

I have 56db attenuation. Before Max, I was recommended to use a Draytel 2600+, which was totally reliable. However, once I Max'd, it just didn't hold the line. I ended up with the humble Netgear DG834, which holds down to about -3db noise margin.

QuoteI was lucky to be able to try 2 and mistakenly buy another type (only to sell it on again) before I got to the one I have. To many chipsets, software GUI's, firmwares, etc etc

Too many indeed. Perhaps we ought to think about forming a pool of members who have a range of routers and would be prepared to visit others, or lend the router to others, to check on a given line? There are obviously practical problems in administering such a scheme, but it could be of real benefit.

ReDGryphoN · May 18, 2007, 10:51:05

Lol Rik,

My attenuation is 62dB and the BT checker says I could get 512K !!, I however get 2Meg through mainly my own efforts and now (through IDNET) a stable connection too, I get this with a Noise Margin of 9db so I could tweak some more if necessary but would struggle to get to the next BRAS profile for 2.5Meg.

I had a Netgear like yours but the PN model with the flashing lights etc, but that router for some reason would gradually bleed my noise margin down to 0 or -3 or whatever and would eventually fall over. I had some great graphs from routerstats with this happening ! No rhyme or reason for it. The guy I sold this too actually had an improvement over his line and synch rate etc so he was well delighted !

D Link did not work very well at all nor a Linksys I tried, eventually a Belkin 7633 (the tweakable version with DMT, there are many 7633's that are not) was my saviour, happy to keep me connected even with a poor line.

ReD

JSAWBSAW

Rik · May 18, 2007, 11:05:59

Quote from: ReDGryphoN on May 18, 2007, 10:51:05
My attenuation is 62dB and the BT checker says I could get 512K !!, I however get 2Meg through mainly my own efforts and now (through IDNET) a stable connection too, I get this with a Noise Margin of 9db so I could tweak some more if necessary but would struggle to get to the next BRAS profile for 2.5Meg.

That's not bad for 62db att. I also have a 9db margin to achieve stability (at my request) and usually sync at around 3-3.3kbps, just a bit below the rate for a 3000 profile, so I'm usually on a 2500. With a following wind though...

It would be nice if BT would use a less coarse stepping sequence for profiles.

QuoteI had a Netgear like yours but the PN model with the flashing lights etc, but that router for some reason would gradually bleed my noise margin down to 0 or -3 or whatever and would eventually fall over. I had some great graphs from routerstats with this happening ! No rhyme or reason for it. The guy I sold this too actually had an improvement over his line and synch rate etc so he was well delighted !

Which just goes to prove that you can't make simple recommendations these days! Netgears do have a reputation of misreporting noise margin over a period, ie it will tend to drop away by 2-3db.

QuoteD Link did not work very well at all nor a Linksys I tried, eventually a Belkin 7633 (the tweakable version with DMT, there are many 7633's that are not) was my saviour, happy to keep me connected even with a poor line.

And other people curse anything Belkin!

It seems that, since Max, the only rule about routers is that there are no rules. Why don't we have a sigh icon when I need one!

Slyder · May 18, 2007, 11:23:15

Ah, glad that the problem's been found

Now..the challenge of finding a router suitable *sigh* Sounds way too confusing for me, and recommendations wouldn't help would they? >__<

Rik · May 18, 2007, 11:24:42

Call support, explain your problem and see if they could lend you a router - unless you have friends around who could help out...